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The Minimum Wage & Sub Humans - What you need to know


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All a corporation is.. is a group of people who decided to organized themselves and make some money. No one is forced to purchase their product or service, and therefor, any corporation that exists-- exists because Humanity chooses to continue to feed it money. Of course, because of government, corruption, monopolies, and other anomolies, there are occasional exceptions.

Some Humans don't think socializing is the key to happiness. These Humans don't have the typical life goal of getting married, a pet, and raising a family. Some of us want to accomplish something very large, and often enough, to do something large requires a large amount of resources. These resources are allocated throughout Humanity based on the law of supply and demand, and if a group of Humans decides they would like to give Humanity something it needs, they can earn profit, and use this to further their cause-- whatever it may be.

The point is that capitalism, and businesses as a whole can be seen as platforms to launch an epic dream. Anyone can start a business if they take the inititive. The problem is with Humanity. The difference between animals and Humans is that Humans perceive the dimension of time. Some of us can anticipate and plan well into the future. Some people live in the moment, and spend their entire lives working pay check to pay check. These sub humans.. they demand jobs, and a higher minimum wage, yet so often they have so little to contribute. It's a big problem society currently faces. Sub Humans.

Personally, I think that Sub-Humans, though large scale consumers, can also maintain an economy with that very same consumption. But we must ask ourselves.. what is an economy? A good economy is a surplus of material resources, a defecit of human resources, and consistently growing demand. If demand drops, businesses die, jobs are lost, and Humans are snached away from the teat of the capitalist machine-- further dropping demand, and creating a cascading effect. 

It seems to give capitalism a negative light calling it a capitalist machine, but when sub humans blindly follow brands, religions, and cultural ideologies, what we get is group think. This group think puts the wrong politicians into office consistantly. It funds Coca-Cola, and dictates what is taught in our schools. Not only do we get group think, but we get a whole nation of Humans who are unable to live without their weekly paycheck. It's tragic to live 100 years, but at any one moment, to only truly be prepared to live perhaps a couple weeks without the assistance of an hourly job that trades low skill labor for their life.

Though it's true that entrepreneurs could create more jobs for these sub humans after a business die, this isn't always what happens. The problem is that not enough entprepreneurs exist. Not enough people exist who have both a good idea, and the motivation to bring it to life. We are surrounded by sub humans. 

So where would we be without sub humans, or The American Dream for that matter? Where would we be without these Humans who exist further from the dimension of time?  The hourly workers, the fast food, and outlet mall shoppers? 

So do you think sub humans exist? Do you think it is their lack of awareness of the future that defines their actions?

 

Luna for President 2050 

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There you go with the "sub-human" thing again.

Youve pimped out your pedestal, havent you!!.

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hey ya got to hand it to her. She bounces back against all odd! I like that side of her. :D

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True. Sorta like a teenage cockroach , cept with more bling. :D

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The Elites could go full "John Galt" as Ayn Rand suggests, and bless some caves somewhere in Siberia with their genius.

Then we could all see if society would really crumble and die without them, or if the middle and working classes would simply move up to take their place ;)

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Not sure if you'll even read this, but hey, posting it anyway. At the very least it's likely to keep me sharper than figuring it's too lengthy to bother.


"No one is forced to purchase their product or service, and therefor, any corporation that exists-- exists because Humanity chooses to continue to feed it money."

Don't forget the effects advertising has on the impressionable mind. A lot of what drives people to buy is not entirely conscious, even going as far as psychological color theories.

How often do you see a food place that features the combo of the colors red and yellow (if not just yellow)? How often do you not see blue and purple? It's common for more than simple familiarity.


"Of course, because of government, corruption, monopolies, and other anomolies, there are occasional exceptions."
I'd argue these factors are the norm personally. More often than not people are guided toward comfort. Check the #1 result on this Cracked.com page. It's all about gauging loyalty and finding openings to push their agendas upon people when they are their most vulnerable, if not outright studying your patterns through automated means to see how to take more money from you.

They could even use such automated processes to measure demand, raising and lowering prices in the process.


"Some Humans don't think socializing is the key to happiness. These Humans don't have the typical life goal of getting married, a pet, and raising a family."
Some still have those goals without assuming socializing is the road to happiness. In fact, there's actually quite a lot of people like that.


"Some of us want to accomplish something very large, and often enough, to do something large requires a large amount of resources."
Why can't someone desire both success and family?


"These resources are allocated throughout Humanity based on the law of supply and demand, and if a group of Humans decides they would like to give Humanity something it needs, they can earn profit, and use this to further their cause-- whatever it may be."
Got to market it first. More often than not, it's the success of commercial campaigns that push a product more than anything else.

They also introduce many things that we honestly don't need, but the demand is still existent for it once it's out there anyway. Fads can push those sorts of things even further, which grows increasingly apparent with each decade of looking back at former trends.


"The point is that capitalism, and businesses as a whole can be seen as platforms to launch an epic dream."
A pity that more often than not it's just there to push for more and more green. The easy answer for most is to just accumulate money in order to strive for longevity, while big risks are seen as... well... risky.


"Anyone can start a business if they take the inititive."
Sure anyone can start a business, but how many of them succeed? Look at small business, compare it to large chains, and try to tell me that it's something anyone can do.

If anything, it largely depends on what field the business is in.


"The problem is with Humanity. The difference between animals and Humans is that Humans perceive the dimension of time."
It does have the drawback of making things more noticeably monotonous, but at the same time, if we lacked that ability, would we have even made it nearly as far? Time is what allows people to plan for things beyond purely in the moment.


"Some people live in the moment, and spend their entire lives working paycheck to pay check. These sub humans.. they demand jobs, and a higher minimum wage, yet so often they have so little to contribute."
Wow, offensive. Have you seen how difficult it can be to live on minimum wage?

You neglect that if everyone is a leader, then there would be no workforce. The workforce is a valuable resource, and not everyone is either willing or cut out to lead. This doesn't make them just "sub humans", it makes them a range of things that include specialists and craftsmen, people who dedicate their time in another valuable direction that leads to further growth through collaboration. With an entire world of only leaders, it'd just be people yelling at each other while nothing gets done.


"A good economy is a surplus of material resources, a defecit of human resources, and consistently growing demand."
I am inclined to disagree with the consistently growing demand portion only because what the demand is affects things drastically. Sure this promotes flow, but what products are being desired can drastically affect a population. Imagine how an entire nation strung out on drugs might affect this model, or how other sales are affected when commodity prices rise. Monopoly also can have a bad effect on one's economy if it's one with a high demand, for suddenly it can be the greedy people up top that are calling the shots without a care for the long term impacts of it all.


"If demand drops, businesses die, jobs are lost, and Humans are snached away from the teat of the capitalist machine-- further dropping demand, and creating a cascading effect."
People need to be making money to spend money in the first place. It's not merely demand, it's also how well people can sustain themselves. Even if everyone wants a new video game console for example, they still will be stuck with rent, food, bills, and the like before they can even venture fun expenses. The cascade happens as people focus more on what they need over what they want, if not fighting to dig their way out of debt.


"It seems to give capitalism a negative light calling it a capitalist machine, but when sub humans blindly follow brands, religions, and cultural ideologies, what we get is group think."
Technically, unified thought actually makes a society easier to run. It's when there's variety that not everyone can be accounted for.

Think about it: An entire nation that is one religion would never have to debate about what faiths are right, nor keeping government and faith separated. When a fad causes a lot of people to purchase something pointless, the company grows and they leave a staple in that era (Scrunchies, Uggs, Slap Bracelets, Trading Cards, etc). Cultural ideologies not clashing means that everyone follows the same line of thinking, which leads to less arguments and clashes alongside an increase in morale.

I am not pro-hive mind, for only one mode of thought stifles creativity and variety, but it is more efficient.


"This group think puts the wrong politicians into office consistantly."
Blame the media, or use it, whichever.

Quite often, people don't know what to think, but want to know what to think. For those with no foundation of their own to go by, they will accept what they hear if it fits the life they know, the values they hold, simply because having no answer to them is worse. Pair that with laziness and you begin to see patterns form based on lifestyles and demographics. Even modeling off of one's parents or society can cause a reproduction of thought, of agenda, simply because it becomes what makes the most sense to them.


"It funds Coca-Cola, and dictates what is taught in our schools."
That area... gets muddy. It depends on which schools in what places you are meaning. Private schooling can have an independent agenda to some degree while Homeschooling is becoming more and more popular.


"Not only do we get group think, but we get a whole nation of Humans who are unable to live without their weekly paycheck."
It's better that way really. Bartering would be a complete hassle otherwise.


"It's tragic to live 100 years, but at any one moment, to only truly be prepared to live perhaps a couple weeks without the assistance of an hourly job that trades low skill labor for their life."
How does Retirement factor into this?


"We are surrounded by sub humans."
Workers have value, otherwise Unions and Protests wouldn't be able to gum up the works. Without them it's just a world of ideas with little to show for them.


"So where would we be without sub humans, or The American Dream for that matter? Where would we be without these Humans who exist further from the dimension of time?  The hourly workers, the fast food, and outlet mall shoppers?"
That sort of world sounds fairly dystopian if not assisted by machines to take these... "sub human's" places.

Even then, we'd still need specialists to repair the machines, and suddenly the majority of the population would be out of work.


"So do you think sub humans exist? Do you think it is their lack of awareness of the future that defines their actions?"
I'd argue that if the majority of people are these "sub humans" as you call them, then that makes what they are humanity. It's when things aren't that that they stand out.

As for why they don't just become leaders, the reasons are far more varied than why people would bother to become leaders.

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Wow. I wish I had a male puppet so that I could say what I really think and not feel at risk of being muted. 

You are the exact person those tumblr activists should be addressing when they say "check your privilege". 

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Luna, um….what is it we need to know exactly? You didn't say anything that whole tangent. Nothing educated me, nor moved me, inspired me, or even opened my eyes to anything. So perhaps you can try this again by speaking to me, not at me. None of this is based in reality. How about some facts, yeah?

Also, where do you live again? Wasn't it at home? And have you actually been outside in the real world to actually understand work ethics, corporations, social ladder, monopolies, and the like? You're twelve, right?

2050 huh? Awesome. I'll have plenty of time to perfect my shooting 

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by limey

Luna, I really think your motivation and craving for success to achieve your dreams are nothing but inspirational. But seriously your capitalistic views are your downfall. While you say these "sub humans" are brain dead living pay check to pay check and are the route cause for the bad political choices made. It is in fact you who is brainwashed by the very capitalism you're aiming to defend. 

While you type on your keyboard expressing your ignorant views, demeaning low level laborers and believing the answer to the worlds problems is more entrepreneurs, there are people working 19 hour days 7 days a week for a dollar a day in sweat shops to make our cheap clothing. They do this because if they don't their families will starve, not out of choice or for lack of inspirational business model ideas. There are kids as young as 9 working as prostitutes right outside the newly build football stadium in Brazil which cost $300+million because they're so poor they can't afford proper housing with electric and clean water. 

No offence but until we have all human life living in at least the most basic conditions, in a world where we truly see an end to slavery, fuck your dreams of living on the moon.  

 Yeah, but I dread what kind of world we would have without capitalism. Capitalism is a law of the universe. Just as the the fittest survive, capitalism is a tool that makes who ever wields it very powerful. Even if the world ridded itself of capitalism, it would come back.

It isn't that Humans are brainwashed by capitalism. It is that Humans are stupid. They are too easily brainwashed by the media, advertising, and anyone with a little bit of salesmanship and charisma. That is what hurts capitalism.

But we can't kill all the Humans, I understand that, so how can we fix this? How can we keep capitalism, while also providing the idiots with decent lives? The costs of housing will need to plumet. So will the costs of transportation, food, and water.

I think it's feasable. If asteroid mining were successful, the market could be flooded with material resources that could lower the costs of production of a house, or space ship for that matter.. for pennies. Renewable energy Electricity grids could be used to provide free, automated transportation throughout a city, and housing could become something so abundant, that home ownership no longer becomes neccary. Food production isn't a big deal. That's simply a question of converting the sun's energy into an edible food. Water is the same. 

With the framework of Capitalism, the ingenuity and passion of Humanity , and power of technology, the world problems can be fixed. I believe it. We just need.. as you say.. entrepreneurs. People who are willing to help solve these problems. 

It frustrates me that we are stuck on this planet Earth.. in a universe of resources, and the very idea of going to the nearest celestial body promts "f*ck your dreams of living on the moon". The moon, and it's low gravity envrionment would be a requirement as a base for an asteroid mining operation, and that is the first step in Humanity's gaining an abundance of resources... which will shift demand to the Human mind.

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LET'S MAKE FOOD OUT OF PHOTONS.

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