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Generally, in the field they assume that the display of many ASPD traits are symptoms of Schizophrenia itself if both are speculated on the same individual. Some psych evaluations follow that idea to the point of showing high results in both fields as negligible, just further proof of Schizo symptoms.

If you are showing traits of both, you are likely just somewhere in the Schizophrenic spectrum (like myself). I suppose a co-morbidity is possible, but it'd be taken about as seriously as saying "Unipolar Mania" is a thing (as opposed to bipolar that has yet to enter it's down stage).

That's what I was thinking aswell. It's a lot of dispute without a proper psychological evaluation. Thank you for the input, I'm also leaning slightly towards the schizo spectrum right now.

Do you remember how it started for you? I've read the experiences vary, along with the person's traits, but all in all it should have something in common.

It was minor and kept increasing as I grew older alongside my insomnia, but it really went nuts once I hit college. I was plagued with horrible sleep and terrible visions before finding a means of sleeping more readily, but I noticed that getting sleep actually seemed to make everything worse instead of better, that being tired all the time kept the symptoms under a certain line. Lump on top of that a time period of post traumatic stress and you have the recipe for full blown crazy.

Somehow I was ignorant of the possibility of it being schizophrenia even though I had every clue and hint one could need (even knowing two other schizophrenics that I had things in common with). It was the only life I really knew until I found Zinc and had a chance to analyze my past behaviors and beliefs through a new lens. I'd somehow been going with my erratic behaviors and depraved visions as if they were normal, if not outright denying that it ever happened after the fact from it seeming "too crazy to have not been imagined". I even assumed that "They" were using my debit records to poison food I'd likely get with hallucinogens and uppers long before assuming I was the root of the problem, a lot of denial of the obvious in favor of crazier answers or assumptions based on only looking at part of the picture.

Pretty much it was a slow increase overtime until it hit a point. Said point had the symptoms increase in severity at an exponential rate until I found myself lucky enough to be a victim of Pyroluria as opposed to full blown Schizophrenia. Mine stemmed from the paranoid persuasion, so there were a lot of conspiracy theories and crazy beliefs during those times alongside odd hallucinations. Usually it was apparent that something was wrong once my emotions seemed to switch from dulled to intensely unstable and erratic followed by high speed rants I couldn't always keep to myself. Thankfully a pad of paper proved to be enough.

Other than those intense breakdowns, I usually carried a dull face (when not putting on an act to appear more expressive) and didn't feel much. Now that I have Zinc that dulled state appears to be all the time.


So, what's your story?

Nope. The two cannot be diagnosed together. That doesn't mean that some of the traits don't resemble each other some of the time, but really, you're going to want to be diagnosed as a schizophrenic if possible in order to protect yourself from being diagnosed with AsPD.

"you're going to want to be diagnosed as a schizophrenic if possible in order to protect yourself from being diagnosed with AsPD."

Why would that matter? Others won't generally see a diagnosis unless they prove to be a danger to themselves or others.

Mine story then, I'm a relatively young high school stud, earlier years I was pretty normal, I was psychologically examined around the age of 6-7 because of an aggresion (really just a self-defense, but they didn't care), they haven't come to any conclusion, only that I had a very mature view of the world and a higher IQ. What they didn't really know is that I used to be deeply depressed, and since childhood I already drank alcohol/smoked and had to cut myself to sort of release, I was way too self-destructive, which I still am although not as much.

Long story short, all my childhood I was depressed and felt an immense emotional pain that made me close to myself, I still struggle with establishing relationships (I can't really connect nor understand how the relationships/friendships work). I started to open up and be a sort of normal person around the age of 17, before then I experienced close to zero connections and developed many 'phobias' of human interactions, I was even nervous buying water having to interact with the vendor. Later I overcame the fears and started a sort of normal life.

To skip a little bit - not long into high school my mother threw me out and basically denounced me of being her son (not quite my fault there, she just couldn't stand it when I had my own opinion trying to reason with her, mostly a communication failure). This home-situated arguing carried on for quite some time and coupled with me failing with a girl I was in love with I was basically in deep self-destructive shit again tearing my life apart. After some time of living the shit I just turned off, stopped caring and I rarely if ever feel emotions anymore. I live with my family relative now studying high-school just yet. The emotional numbness allows me to truly live the way I want without having to cope with depressions, confidence and what not, I'm just a blank page that I can fill with what I want. All in all I'm happy the way I am, because I really was an emotionally fucked up person.

As for the schizophrenia, I came across the symptoms randomly and realized I actually fit in many many early stages symptoms, but I don't know much about it really apart from the obvious. I had a few insomnia occasions in earlier years (couldn't sleep for a week and such) and I remember that I actually was hallucinating, but given the sleep deprivation that shouldn't be that uncommon. As for now, I'm only awake for 2 days, I have a bit paranoid state of mind and I'm daydreaming about a past acquaintance of mine, I'm feeling different in a weird way but I'm not hallucinating/hearing things. I don't desire or want anything, I'm just an empty shell right now and I feel asexual, too.

I guess at the time I was wondering whether I can actually expect it to develop further, or maybe I'm just having some weird mood swings. I'm kind of tired and my thinking got a little disoriented, too.

And yeah, talking to myself is more entertaining than I thought.

"Shadowcoldzx" Hahahaha. You're a fucking fool and your screen name is retarded. You don't just spontaneously transform into a sociopath during late adolescence and emotionlessness has nothing to do with the condition. I'd say sociopaths have pretty much the full range of emotions but don't feel them for anyone other than themselves. Your numbness is more likely a result of your worsening depression rather than an overnight switch in your psychological make up, in which case you should probably go cut yourself some more so you can feel something again haha. Or perhaps you're not so numb at all but lying to yourself about your apathy and lack of emotions to avoid having to deal with how pathetic you are. Seeing as you were on here not long ago crying about some girl you have a crush on I'd say your feelings are still very much present. As for schizophrenia, I dunno. Mabye it would be a good idea to visit a doctor instead of an internet forum if you're hallucinating.

Don't all those 'spectrums' overlap in one way, or another?

Aren't disassociation, paranoia, desensitization etc... all comorbid to varying degrees to the accentuation of certain traits present in all of the so called 'personality disorders'?

We all create our own reality and are affected by those of others' and the factual one.

How we deal with all of that in order to survive, or as we descend into our own spiral of 'madness and insanity' actually defines us.

And still, all these definitions fail to fully grasp how we process reality in order to live.

"Don't all those 'spectrums' overlap in one way, or another?"

In a sense, but recognizing the root of the symptoms is integral for finding ways to tweak how someone functions. One person's reason for dissociation for example is not everyone's and as such require different means of treatment.

By separating them into root causes instead of merely symptoms, it can become easier to understand how a person functions even if simply for how to go about every day life in a more informed fashion.