"I brainorgasm twice a day by thinking about Plato. Or Aristotle, if I'm in a really crazy mood."
Oh good, I thought I was the only one. 
"I'm not even sure wth you mean by cyborg. A man with artificial components?"
Pretty sure he's meaning once they become more metal than man.
If a cyborg, more machine than man, has sex with a robot, would that still be masturbation to you? Also, what if the robot had a significantly advanced AI as to render in indiscernible from a human mind?
Also yes, if I were going to have sex with anything, I'd prefer it be a robot.
"If a cyborg, more machine than man, has sex with a robot, would that still be masturbation to you?"
I guess it'd depend on why they were doing it. The robot factor would make me think so though yes.
Would you say someone "lost their virginity to a robot"?
"Also, what if the robot had a significantly advanced AI as to render in indiscernible from a human mind?"
Other variables would judge it at that point, ones I haven't really thought about. It'd depend on it's aspects of free will, as it's that that makes or breaks what it is really.
Actually, no. Grannies with implants are ALREADY "cyborgs", cyborgs being defined as beings with both organic and mechanical parts. It's impossible to draw the line here, so the moment you have a piece of technology in your body enhancing your life, you are a cyborg. It's of course in a pedantic sense, but still.
Also, lol at me being religious. And also lol at me caring not only about MY health, but also about the health of the ENTIRE SPECIES being something "immature", or even "undesirable". Because at the end of the day power = health.
If you can't see how playing Counter Strike every waking hour of your life is sick; how spending your days masturbating in a room is sick; how having a livestyle of hedonistic, illusory pleasure (exactly as in a dream) is sick; if you can't see any of this -- it's not my problem.
And note, moreover, that there's nothing inherently bad about drugs. Drugs are awesome -- it's only the people who base their entire lives around drugs and their illusory pleasure that suck. Kinda like the people who can't leave their beds and remain in a dream state the entire day. This should go without saying: drugs, like art, like dreams should be pursued in our downtimes, in the rest periods between our REAL exertion (i.e. after the supreme pleasure that intense physical exertion is). I repeat: if you can't see how smoking weed all day, everyday; how watching movies all day, everyday; how sleeping and daydreaming all day, everyday is sick, then I'm afraid I won't be able to teach you anything.
I just imagine you in a room with a hot horny woman, you talking non stop about the philosophy of condoms or whatever, SHOUTING words from time to time for EMPHASIS and heatedly gesticulating... the horny lady getting up and leaving and you not even noticing...
But hey, at least you made me laugh, lol.
"If you can't see how playing Counter Strike every waking hour of your life is sick; how spending your days masturbating in a room is sick; how having a livestyle of hedonistic, illusory pleasure (exactly as in a dream) is sick; if you can't see any of this -- it's not my problem."
"if you can't see how smoking weed all day, everyday; how watching movies all day, everyday; how sleeping and daydreaming all day, everyday is sick, then I'm afraid I won't be able to teach you anything."
But you must be able to explain why you think its sick. Or you can't explain your own reasoning? Of course you might of explained that already, as i have not read almost any of your previous posts. In which case i might read them.
It's simple: because the increase of power you feel during these activities is NEGLIGIBLE compared to the increase of power you feel while doing, say, sports.
When you play games, watch movies, consume drugs, or dream you actually increase your power (hence you feeling pleasure -- that's how we become aware of an increase of power: through pleasure. Pleasure is an effect), but after a certain point, these activities, if pursued obsessively to the point where you forget to eat and leave your room for entire days, will make you sick. The pleasure you feel is because of the momentary increase of power you go through in these activities, by overcoming external resistances. But these external resistances are virtual, tiny, almost inexistent, illusory by their nature, which means your increase of power is also negligible. And when you get to the point where you don't eat to get another shot of heroin your relative increase of power in that locally small period of time is comparatively NEGATIVE compared to the overall decrease of power and health not eating will put you through. To be sure, it might make you feel great in that locally small time period, but after that time period is gone you will feel like shit. (And so you will either pursue more momentary pleasure until you die of starvation, i.e. you'll remain an hedonistic fuckface, or will actually learn from the experience and actually go and make yourself healthy.)
All of this is explained above implicitly, you should probably read it. When I explain stuff in my posts I make use of emphasis and exaggerations, because this is the best way to drill ideas into people's heads. Strictly speaking it makes it easier for my posts to seemingly contradict themselves, but what is important is that people get the general idea. If they need more, they can ask (like you just did), or go read philosophy (specially in those times I don't feel as generous and patient as am feeling now).
by EtzelActually, no. Grannies with implants are ALREADY "cyborgs", cyborgs being defined as beings with both organic and mechanical parts. It's impossible to draw the line here, so the moment you have a piece of technology in your body enhancing your life, you are a cyborg. It's of course in a pedantic sense, but still.
If you can't see how playing Counter Strike every waking hour of your life is sick; how spending your days masturbating in a room is sick; how having a livestyle of hedonistic, illusory pleasure (exactly as in a dream) is sick; if you can't see any of this -- it's not my problem.
And note, moreover, that there's nothing inherently bad about drugs. Drugs are awesome -- it's only the people who base their entire lives around drugs and their illusory pleasure that suck. Kinda like the people who can't leave their beds and remain in a dream state the entire day. This should go without saying: drugs, like art, like dreams should be pursued in our downtimes, in the rest periods between our REAL exertion (i.e. after the supreme pleasure that intense physical exertion is). I repeat: if you can't see how smoking weed all day, everyday; how watching movies all day, everyday; how sleeping and daydreaming all day, everyday is sick, then I'm afraid I won't be able to teach you anything.
Really? Then not only have I fucked cyborgs (breasts implants make someone a cyborg, right?), but my artificial teeth and some metal stuff I have in my body make me a cyborg too. Guess you learn smth new every day. And it also solves the burning geek issue of whether fucking a cyborg is masturbation or not lmao
I completely agree that everything done in excess is bad. Of course those people you described are losers, they are losers by today's social standards too. For there to be losers who spend all day playing on a computer, or watching movies, other people need to work productively/act/learn computer stuff etc to make that possible. I don't see why you think the entire human society will become decadent. Lazy people have always been and will always be around.
by EtzelIt's simple: because the increase of power you feel during these activities is NEGLIGIBLE compared to the increase of power you feel while doing, say, sports.
When you play games, watch movies, consume drugs, or dream you actually increase your power (hence you feeling pleasure -- that's how we become aware of an increase of power: through pleasure. Pleasure is an effect), but after a certain point, these activities, if pursued obsessively to the point where you forget to eat and leave your room for entire days, will make you sick. The pleasure you feel is because of the momentary increase of power you go through in these activities, by overcoming external resistances. But these external resistances are virtual, tiny, almost inexistent, illusory by their nature, which means your increase of power is also negligible. And when you get to the point where you don't eat to get another shot of heroin your relative increase of power in that locally small period of time is comparatively NEGATIVE compared to the overall decrease of power and health not eating will put you through. To be sure, it might make you feel great in that locally small time period, but after that time period is gone you will feel like shit. (And so you will either pursue more momentary pleasure until you die of starvation, i.e. you'll remain an hedonistic fuckface, or will actually learn from the experience and actually go and make yourself healthy.)
All of this is explained above implicitly, you should probably read it. When I explain stuff in my posts I make use of emphasis and exaggerations, because this is the best way to drill ideas into people's heads. Strictly speaking it makes it easier for my posts to seemingly contradict themselves, but what is important is that people get the general idea. If they need more, they can ask (like you just did), or go read philosophy (specially in those times I don't feel as generous and patient as am feeling now).
So everytime we feel pleasure it's because we become more powerful? Next time you feel patient and generous maybe you could explain more about what power means to you. I always associate power with a specific goal, like power to do smth. Whether it's power to make decisions and influence important things in your life or others, or just the power to make someone feel better when they are down, I see it as a concrete means to smth. I don't see it as an abstract thing that exists for its own sake, like you seem to see it.
As a nerd myself, I commend you. This is the smartest post in this thread.
Also:
"I just imagine you in a room with a hot horny woman, you talking non stop about the philosophy of condoms or whatever, SHOUTING words from time to time for EMPHASIS and heatedly gesticulating... the horny lady getting up and leaving and you not even noticing... then your brain orgasming at the end of the monologue screaming Nietzsche's name."
dies of laughter