Yeah, the Romans liked to do that to foreign gods. They were probably the first truly multicultural society. Mithras was the previous cult-god the Roman soldiers prayed to, so since Jesus granted victory in battle, they gave him some of the attributes of Mithras. Mithras was also born to a virgin mother. My own belief is that Jesus existed, that he was a Jewish zealot who was executed for preaching extremism, then people started worshiping him as a god hundreds of years later.
Everything you just said about Jesus is factual.
Apart from that about the virgin mother. I understand his mother though, I would also say that it was a virgin birth if I was engaged already with a man whose child I didn't carry in those days. That or getting stoned was her options.
by ObsidianEverything you just said about Jesus is factual.
Apart from that about the virgin mother. I understand his mother though, I would also say that it was a virgin birth if I was engaged already with a man whose child I didn't carry in those days. That or getting stoned was her options.
I read once, no I don't have links, that the original Hebrew word for woman translated, in English, to something very close to 'virgin'. Probably a mis-translation...
The Heroic Pattern:
http://www.la.unm.edu/~katem/Myth/projects/Project%202/the_heroic_pattern.htm
This was originally written for Greek tragedies and Epics, but as you will see, it can be compared to pretty much every ancient religious figure.
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by ObsidianEverything you just said about Jesus is factual.
Apart from that about the virgin mother. I understand his mother though, I would also say that it was a virgin birth if I was engaged already with a man whose child I didn't carry in those days. That or getting stoned was her options.
I read once, no I don't have links, that the original Hebrew word for woman translated, in English, to something very close to 'virgin'. Probably a mis-translation...
Without you can look at the original texts and read aramaic it would be difficult to know precisely. Texts were translated from aramaic to greek to latin to loads of other languages, so there is plenty of scope for mistranslation as well as manipulation for political ends.
The Gnostic Gospels are well worth a look at though. You don't hear too much of their teachings in mainstream Christianity. Includes the Gospel of Judas, and the Gospel of Mary.
In my opinion Jesus was a real person who caused a bit of a stink and was executed for being a militant rabbi. Beyond that it's a matter of faith and not logic.
by CorcyraThe Heroic Pattern:
http://www.la.unm.edu/~katem/Myth/projects/Project%202/the_heroic_pattern.htm
This was originally written for Greek tragedies and Epics, but as you will see, it can be compared to pretty much every ancient religious figure.
Totally agree with this.
There does seem to be a recipe for Religious leaders, prophets and avatars. I think Joseph Campbell covers a lot of this ground in The Masks of God, and The Hero with a Thousand Faces.
I said it a million times, cause it's good enough to repeat. But let's talk about the way of ultimate consciousness.
A society comprised of beings with ultimate consciousness wouldn't be anything like it is today, cause the being with ultimate consciousness will experience everything they do to others. I read these pages, and I see assumption and ignorance toward what is actually written in the Bible, while the correct few are the only ones actually bringing in the real material. There is more appeal in the truth, because it is the substance of raised awareness, and why not ? Regardless of who we are and what belief structure, to suggest one has a small awareness is an insult.
A society comprised of beings with ultimate consciousness, does not fuck over one another, because it's not possible to deceive. To even think about actually trying to screw over someone in such a society, the subject would get dealt with in advance. What is considerably despicable will be understood, all unacceptable results wouldn't have much of a chance, if it had a chance at all.
Looking at the Ten Commandments. It is clearly a guideline to shape us to be more like a society comprised of beings with ultimate consciousness. The experiment, is for us to return to source, without having ultimate consciousness. But we do have common sense.
We have been told to do onto others, as we would ourselves. Had we ultimate consciousness, it would be known that we desire to be loved, as it would be for others, therefore we would provide for one another, as we would also receive the same service. It's easy to see how much smarter it is.
Religion in itself often contradicts itself. It's not being run by Jesus Christ or the highest. It's a good start and it serves it's purpose in carrying what seems to be a concealed truth. The masses cannot be lied to without some truths, and religion in itself is in a scale so grand, it has to carry the truth while it's being hidden though false practices that otherwise server the, intruders.
A society with a higher consciousness would do religion proper, without the false idols like statues and other depictions that goes against the teachings, while the flock is taught practices that otherwise suggest we are consuming the flesh and blood of our own lord, just as the so called serpent God's would take in sacrifices from those deemed below them. Very twisted. The society with a higher awareness would do religion proper, until they evolved into a consciousness where guidance is no longer required.
It is easy to see, the commandments and other teaching in the Bible are of higher consciousness, as it is obviously FROM a higher consciousness. When we're evolved, there will be no deception, stealing, or bringing misery onto others. Those who desire such things would be fully understood and accepted until they shoot themselves in the foot. Maybe even have their own place where they can act as though they don't know anything and be self centered as though it can possibly be better than a world that looks out for one another, yet at the same time, they would experience what crimes they commit against others, cause they too have ultimate consciousness.
Such an environment would have everyone living like multi-billionaires, and that concept in general would be so far instilled in us, we'd be experiencing a new definition of rich, a description of rich that is so great, a smaller awareness wouldn't even imagine.
Those who understand what it means to have a higher awareness know that it is a greater sense of not only the self. Those who thrive for higher awareness will never get there without understanding what they must become. In order to even strive for this, they have to move in the right direction.