So, you do believe that ALL homeless people have value... Okay.
There is an old geriatric scrounging through the rubbish for food in a city somewhere far away, what gives him value?
I think you're the one out of your depth here.
Your example of the value of a homeless person required you to think as a theoretical competitive businessperson, and more importantly you said the homeless person would have more value than an average person on the street. But if you were looking to create a crowd, as a media person or as someone doing a performance or demonstration, the average successful person would be of more value to create an image that attracts more people.
Basically you can say that anyone has a potential value, but if you aren't utilizing it then they have no value to you. Which is pretty much what Thrill said to begin with. But feel free to keep imagining yourself as a ruthless businessman paying homeless people to take out your competition just to create a meaningless theoretical argument. I'm sure that's very productive.
Everyone has their value, you just need to look a little closer.
There are 7 billion people in the world and you think all 7 billion have value?
What is their value?
Was this not clear to you? I thought it was a given but I wouldn't expect you to understand. I'm not going to type it, I want you to engage your brain.
by Thrill KillSo, you do believe that ALL homeless people have value... Okay.
There is an old geriatric scrounging through the rubbish for food in a city somewhere far away, what gives him value?
Ooooo an out of town tramp, brilliant, even better! Where does it live? Let's say Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. I call one of my Business partners who has an office there and have him set up the deal. I never even have to meet the scavenging degenerate.
It's not important, if the person is rich or poor, all of their lifes have no value for me.
But I'm sure, that judges and also most of the newspaper-reading-people will see this in an other way. I'll get more years for killing a rich than for killing a poor.
Value is made by rules, which most people follow. All the human rights can't give all of them the same value. It's not my problem. For me all of them have the same - but this is no value!
by hypercube
I think you're the one out of your depth here.
Your example of the value of a homeless person required you to think as a theoretical competitive businessperson, and more importantly you said the homeless person would have more value than an average person on the street. But if you were looking to create a crowd, as a media person or as someone doing a performance or demonstration, the average successful person would be of more value to create an image that attracts more people.
Basically you can say that anyone has a potential value, but if you aren't utilizing it then they have no value to you. Which is pretty much what Thrill said to begin with. But feel free to keep imagining yourself as a ruthless businessman paying homeless people to take out your competition just to create a meaningless theoretical argument. I'm sure that's very productive.
Ofc and thats what I was willing thrilly to say but seemingly she doesn't have the mental faculties to articulate whats in that underdeveloped brain of hers and thats why she needs bored wingmen, such as yourself, to articulate for her. Most People are only of value if you have access to them. I thought this was abundantly fucking obvious.
"Imagining?"
-shakes head-
You're a funny one.
"I'm sure thats very productive."
Where would you rate squirrel talk on this scale of productivity of yours?
Ofc and thats what I was willing thrilly to say but seemingly she
doesn't have the mental faculties to articulate whats in that
underdeveloped brain of hers and thats why she needs bored wingmen, such
as yourself, to articulate for her.
Apparently I needed to articulate it for you as well, since you never bothered to present a clear thesis statement before playing the "you're dumb and I'm smart" game. More to the point, Thrill's line of questioning to you would have led to that conclusion far more clearly than your own line of questioning to her.
"Do ALL homeless people have value to you, even the ones that you will never meet and therefore, cannot possibly take advantage of?"
-quote from TK
Most People are only of value if you have access to them.
Strangely, that sounds a lot like "The ones of no value are those who are useless to me." which is another quote from TK.
Feel free to nitpick between "useless to me" and "having no access" but if the general idea is that value=use then I'm not playing wingman, I'm playing translator.
Where would you rate squirrel talk on this scale of productivity of yours?
Slightly higher than zero, since my squirrel talk led to Edvard saying something about squirrels which I remembered and used to understand the conceptual theory behind database design.
How does questioning people's "super socio powers" (lol) on the internet contribute to your #swag lifestyle of champagne, fast cars, and beautiful women? Wait, don't answer that because I'm really not interested.
"Apparently I needed to articulate it for you as well, since you never bothered to present a clear thesis statement before playing the "you're dumb and I'm smart" game."
Lol My reasoning behind this 'argument' (lol), as you call it, was to let thrilly know that every human being on planet-mother-fucking-earth has their value...to someone. Be that a tramp in Melbourne, Australia or new born baby in poverty striken Sierra Leone. Thrilly as per usual was only thinking from her vantage point which, I hear, is common amongst most narcissistic schizoids. Take that last comment as you wish.
"More to the point, Thrill's line of questioning to you would have led to that conclusion far more clearly than your own line of questioning to her. "Do ALL homeless people have value to you, even the ones that you will never meet and therefore, cannot possibly take advantage of?" -quote from TK People are only of value if you have access to them. Strangely, that sounds a lot like "The ones of no value are those who are useless to me." which is another quote from TK. Feel free to nitpick between "useless to me" and "having no access" but if the general idea is that value=use then I'm not playing wingman, I'm playing translator."
"Most" as in 'the majority', meaning not 'all.' Come the fuck on hyper, I never knew you were this slack.
Where would you rate squirrel talk on this scale of productivity of yours?
"Slightly higher than zero, since my squirrel talk led to Edvard saying something about squirrels which I remembered and used to understand the conceptual theory behind database design."
Wow, what foresight you seem to possess~ You started squirrel talk many months ago knowing that sometime in February, Edvard would say something that would help you understand the conceptual theory behind database design! Unbelievablely, your talents are being wasted on this forum.
"How does questioning people's "super socio powers" (lol) on the internet contribute to your #swag lifestyle of champagne, fast cars, and beautiful women? Wait, don't answer that because I'm really not interested."
I'm sorry that you took this 'literally.' However, before opening my "thesis", I did say "hypothetically." (hy·po·thet·i·cal (hī′pÉ™-thÄ•t′Ä-kÉ™l) also hy·po·thet·ic (-thÄ•t′Äk) adj. 1. Of, relating to, or based on a hypothesis: a hypothetical situation. See Synonyms at theoretical. 2. a. Suppositional; uncertain. See Synonyms at supposed. b. Conditional; contingent. n. A hypothetical circumstance, condition, scenario, or situation:) One day, I do hope to have a business of my own but right now, I'm content with scrounging off of my other half.