by emilynghiem
Dear Spatial: Thanks for the response that seems blind projection of your perception
but is clearly misunderstanding of my message as I must have misunderstood yours. Sorry for this.
I understand your message. But it's not really called for. I Even mentioned how I never judged and still accept Slimey for whatever he does. My projection being blind is respectably, only your opinion.
NOTE: you can be forgiving and still oppose degrading others. this is not either or.
I believe you can still be more effective and less projecting the more you forgive
so you don't blind yourself as you accuse me of. I am not pompous so that does not apply to me.
that is your projection because you come across that way to people the way you say things online.
But Emily, it is you who speaks nothing of the discussions on hand, and feel the need to instruct others, especially me, in a pop up morality lesson. And to be frank, there is NEVER, a situation where projection is of lesser value. Projection in itself is a matter of a true state of being.
Since your telling me how I could have done things so much better, why not be more clear and just tell me what I shouldn't have done ?
If you think I am being pompous, then my words must give you this wrong impression too.
how can we break out of this pattern of mutual projection back and forth? thanks Spatial
nothing negative intended which you seem to have misread in my message?
Your words imply that I lack forgiveness. By definition of pompous, your assumption and will to carry out it's message is irritating, as well as faulty. I don't say that to offend, but it really is, especially while I'm in the middle of something, these exchanges we're having now are sidetracked, compared to a more progressive exchange.
by Spatial Mind
I'll repeat. I've been in that place Josh is now. My take on the matter has nothing to do with forgiveness. Simply put, I am in opposition on degrading others in this manner. Why is that a problem ?
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RE: With reason would I address her in degrading ways. And I would only do it when Edvard would come around and fan the flames.
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Added note to Spatial from Emily:
there is nothing wrong with opposing the degrading of others - I am just saying to do so with forgiveness so the correction and communication are received more effectively.
Emily, now's a good time for you to measure how merciless you truly are. Your doing it again.
there is nothing wrong with explaining the reason you addressed Alia in degrading ways when the flames were fanned, as you did above.
but to forgive and explain your side unequally while you criticize the other side in a conflict,
that is what I mean by forgiveness issues blocking mutual communication and causing projection.
Emily, in a conflict, I am suppose to criticize the other side. It is a conflict, as you say, "my side of the conflict", has been linked to the actual events. To forgive doesn't mean to go stupid and turn a blind eye to things like spoiled behavior that can be dangerous. When I'm being falsely labeled with something that will have the law revoke my computers and devices and ban me from using the internet and even ban me from using work machines. I'm sorry, but I have a problem with that.
In short Emily, don't judge me for what I am and how I do things. Forgiveness comes after, and you don't know when or even If I have already forgiven. On that note, it doesn't mean I won't make the hard effort to cripple my adversaries when I need to. I believe in punishment and consequence for the sake of a better tomorrow.
of course it is not your fault that you were unjustly accused and suffered for the wrongful actions of others
but how you respond to it affects if your attempts at correction are seen as sincere or as defensive projection
you can be right as rain, but if you come across like I did as pompous or projecting then communication fails.
I'll be the first to tell you, and I even wrote it myself. I at times actually am pompous and arrogant. I tone that down on the most part and keep my mouth shut. I get tired of old lessons that are well instilled in me, and I frown at people when they insist I practice what I've been practicing for ages.
The main substance is not in how people are, but in the messages they deliver. That doesn't mean I don't respect other peoples boundaries, it mean I'll have a tendency to communicate with people who are more progressive for me to deal with.