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Dear Spatial:

When I read Poan's response, who has taken your word over mine as to my meaning and intent, it seems clear that whatever concern you have for Edvard has backfired on you.

Instead of clearing up anything concerning Edvard, you have somehow managed to reinforce negative misperceptions of both you and me.

I don't see how you can correct leftover issues with Edvard, the way you present your intent comes out completely self-serving. No wonder he misperceives you and your intent. I can't make it out from your messages either!!!

If you blame TK or Edvard for why they think you have a Messiah complex, look at your words that sound this way. Clearly that would have to be resolved before anyone can even process the CONTENT of your msgs.

If this is how you've been communicating all this time, no wonder they never got past your facade.

Whatever issues you have with Edvard, the way you present your statements made you look cloaked in self-centeredness. And then you also projected some of this self-image on me, which doubles the confusion. If you project this way onto me, you must have come across this way to Edvard as well.

Spatial, whatever YOU are holding onto with Edvard is YOUR problem, not HIS. 

I thought he handled his issues well; I could understand his messages, but cannot understand yours; you sound defensive to the point it looks like you are tooting your own horn. That's what I mean by it is coming across backwards.

You just explained forgiveness to someone else, well this is another burden that is blocking things on your side.

???

Can we take this one step at a time.

1. one issue is the actual content of the conflicts you have with Edvard

2. one issue is the way you present your messages sounds narcissistic like you are so overly defensive and trumpeting your views or position, as if you are pursuing this for your own ego, not for resolving things with him.

3. and together, perhaps the way you came across backwards is why Edvard and others attacked ignored or discredited you. I can't even hear what you are trying to say behind the image your words convey. 

Something is getting completely lost in the posting.

by Poan

I don't think Spatial could of made it any clearer. I have no idea about the whole backstory about Ed and you Spatial but I perfectly understood your post and what you were trying to convey to Emily...However Emily on the other hand seems to be projecting and restating what you have written and putting a question mark...instead of accepting the message for what it is she prefers to delude herself (mainly due to a lack of intelligence) into convincing others of how' twisted , and backwards' your posts are. in fact....i don't think it could have been put any simpler..!

 

peace

Dear Poan: I spent over two hours on the phone with Tony/Spatial Mind between last week and today.

He sounds NOTHING LIKE the msg posted above. Does not sound like the same person.

So I am trying to figure out where the disconnect is happening. Now I understand why Edvard attacked or rejected whatever Spatial tried to explain/correct in posts on this forum if THIS is how he came across to people!

No wonder!

And if he misrepresents himself this diametrically opposite, whatever he says about me or Edvard is biased too.

by Spatial Mind

Thank you Poan. Emily is actually really smart in a sophisticated way. She knows I could just end all of this, and I know I can too. But then I think about the Holy war and I feel Ed has the potential to detach himself from whatever influences him to involve himself in his friends matters for the sake of sport and escalating rage. When he gives that up, I won't have any ammunition to use against him.  

 ^ If you are making your actions "dependent" on his, that's conditional behavior ^

Given your long message trying to pick things apart, it seems you have not "let go."

So how can you ask Edvard to "let go" if you have not "let go" first. <<-- Tony is this msg more clear? Thanks!

They've agreed to disagree, and agree that they don't like each other. As a result, neither really starts shit with the other, because both see it as a waste of time. The only time drama comes up is when someone else starts it. Your attempt at peace here is actually instigation. Ed and Spatial are like gasoline and fire. They are fine on their own, but the two interact dangerously when pushed together. Even look at Spatial replying to you about Edvard, it'd be extremely easy for him to come in here and reply, and then bam, another fight.

Your need to control is flaring again. None of their drama is your business, yet you act like it's your responsibility. Let them be themselves and resolve it on their own.

What you don't get either TC, not just Tony, is that his same projection that prevents him from communicating and resolving things with Edvard, also projects onto me in his same messages, and onto others he talks to or about.

They are written in that same weird slant that sounds like it is self-serving and not the "Tony" I talked with over the phone. Something is lost in how he writes and posts it here.

So whatever is causing that "gap" between the Tony I talk with and the Spatial Mind posts here, that is going to cause conflicts with EVERYONE. If he has been blaming people for misjudging him, I see it is not their fault.

It is NOT just isolated to Edvard. If Tony has always posted in this manner it's no wonder people don't receive what he's trying to say.  I can't even recognize or read through that, how is anyone else supposed to know?

Half the conflict is on the surface, in how he is perceived for the words and ways he uses to come across. Which are totally distracting from whatever content he has.

I doubt he has EVER had the chance to resolve the issues underneath, if this communication/perception gap was never addressed. It is like trying to eat the pineapple without removing the rough skin first. How in the world???

It is like night and day. I don't even recognize it is the same person it comes across so different. ??? Bizarre.

I will address Tony by email and try to see why this was never addressed. I'm just thinking NO WONDER !!!!

Don't change Spatial, please? Me wuvs him as he is.

Listen Em, I didn't even bother to read all this, but I read enough. Please let it go. Tony is not my enemy, I don't fear the fuckhead, I just really dislike his personality, his arrogance and his delusional narcissism. He's just the sort of guy that I'd punch in real life. I've seen him do and say many degrading things on here, one of the latest being that he accepted the offer to moderate this place. I'm not interested in making amends with this guy, I've read his shit on here for more than a year, I know him better than you do. Not a chance in hell that I'll kiss and make up with someone I dislike so much. So end this conversation please.

by Spatial Mind

  on a human scale, Am I not fantastic ?

Go fuck yourself. :D

With pleasure. :D

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