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when he was happy, he'd leave his house (so go figure they never saw that side of him).

Most people, who see a psychologist or psychiatrist, usually attend therapy on a regular basis over a period of time. So, I'm not sure how a psychologist could have missed that piece of vital information.

I personally believe that a thorough investigation into the patient's behavior should be conducted before any label is slapped on them. For example: talking to the person's parents or teachers if they're young. What makes that difficult though is the anonymity agreement between patient and psychologist.

I suppose it's not that hard to miss things if all you have to go on is whatever the patient is telling you, but that's where discernment comes in and specific questioning that may reveal other possible causes.

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"So, I'm not sure how a psychologist could have missed that piece of vital information."

It's not like I could listen in on his sessions. For all I know he might have been a dick about it, or maybe the guy only asked about how his "life at home" is. His mother was either in the pharmaceutical industry or somehow connected to the field of psych, so there may have been some pull from her input.

Otherwise yeah, it's really a shame how quick a diagnosis can be slapped onto someone these days, and even more of a shame how quickly they'll throw pills at them.

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im still waiting for taras term of sociopathy

not waiting for long though cause im getting bored

 

PS. here is my real picture u suckers :

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Thanks MMP I am fine with Turncoat's citation of general traits

by MMP

sosiopathy or psychopathy is normally regarded as personality disorder

so lets here what is taras definition of the term then

 

 and I like your terms that focus on SP as a "personality disorder"

Yet I still believe individuals may have these traits and disorder but not act on them in antisocial ways if they are at fully mature levels of control and awareness. I think that component is separate from the disorder itself. Empaths can also be unaware and have no control because that element is a separate factor that anyone can have.

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In terms of Antisocial Personality Disorder, there is a specific list of criteria. If you meet the symptoms, that can be your label. Whether a psychiatrist deems it or  not.

IMHO

By Mayo Clinic staff
Antisocial personality disorder signs and symptoms may include:

Disregard for right and wrong
Persistent lying or deceit to exploit others
Using charm or wit to manipulate others for personal gain or for sheer personal pleasure
Intense egocentrism, sense of superiority and exhibitionism
Recurring difficulties with the law
Repeatedly violating the rights of others by the use of intimidation, dishonesty and misrepresentation
Child abuse or neglect
Hostility, significant irritability, agitation, impulsiveness, aggression or violence
Lack of empathy for others and lack of remorse about harming others
Unnecessary risk-taking or dangerous behaviors
Poor or abusive relationships
Irresponsible work behavior
Failure to learn from the negative consequences of behavior

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I realize this was already posted.

This was just another list of symptoms/behaviors.

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Also A definition I have read gives the disclaimer: These symptoms are apparent without MANIA or PSYCHOSIS.

Being  bipolar, I can get pretty full of myself.

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okay

tara and tk have now managed to convince me there are such things as high functional sociopaths

they r the ceos and hot shot politicians of the world in total control of them selves totally disconnected from the rest of humanity

the real heroes of modern world uber mensc as nietzce and hitler wuld of said

so tara-

what makes u think ur 1 of them ?

lets get to the bottom of the mystery that is tara

 

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Just read that thread and I keep thinking the same thing Tara, why are you really here?? I don't buy that sociopathic comedian story. What disorder do you think you have or how are you related to sociopaths if I might ask?

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This list basically describes behaviors commonly associated with certain... ahem... minorities.

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