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Hi guys, quick introduction

Honestly you sound like a teenager and you still have missed the point of my first quote you are referring to, so go back and re read it.

What I said was not sexist, I am pretty sure I have been on the earth a lot longer than you and I built my business alone, I am the biggest champion for strong women and their rights.

You are misconstruing what "ladylike" means. A woman can be very strong and live in a man's world but it doesn't mean you have to be classless and crude, or an ugly bully!

Many women do attack women who are very beautiful for their looks, out of jealousy and bitterness.

I am not attacking you but if you think the only way to equality in a man's world, which it will always be so get over it, is to copy their antagonist, sparing behavior and not use your brain to solve problems in a concise, unemotional and dignified way, then you are choosing to stay un evolved.

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by lisa

a man's world, which it will always be so get over it

What makes you so certain it will always be a man's world?

Personally, I think women have the advantage over men in a lot of ways. The day we don't need them anymore to help carry on humanity, men will be worthless to us. The only thing they'll be good for is slavery.

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by lisa

Honestly you sound like a teenager and you still have missed the point of my first quote you are referring to, so go back and re read it.

What I said was not sexist, I am pretty sure I have been on the earth a lot longer than you and I built my business alone, I am the biggest champion for strong women and their rights.

You are misconstruing what "ladylike" means. A woman can be very strong and live in a man's world but it doesn't mean you have to be classless and crude, or an ugly bully!

Many women do attack women who are very beautiful for their looks, out of jealousy and bitterness.

I am not attacking you but if you think the only way to equality in a man's world, which it will always be so get over it, is to copy their antagonist, sparing behavior and not use your brain to solve problems in a concise, unemotional and dignified way, then you are choosing to stay un evolved.

 

If you want to say I'm classless, that's fine.

If you want to say I'm crude, that's fine.

If you want to say I'm a bully, that's debatable.

None of those things is gender specific, and that was my point.  You're perpetuating outdated gender stereotypes by saying that it's okay for guys to do bad things, but women have to be better.

I'm not asking for equality, I'm asking for freedom.  You don't have to approve of me, but if you're going to disapprove, give me a reason that isn't related to my gender when you give guys a pass for it and say "boys will be boys."

It's ridiculous.  I'm happy that you're a strong woman, that's great, but in my eyes I'd rather see you as a strong person than a strong woman.

 

I'll never attack you for your looks unless we're playing bitchfight, but I'll challenge what you say if I disagree with it and I hope you can accept that it's not hostility, it's curiosity, to see if you can back up what you say enough that I respect it.

 

We're all zeroes and ones on the internet, girl.

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You are correct, maybe not always!!! I am with you on this one all the way but unfortunately even women with power and money have to fight this every inch of the way!!!

I have learned to do everything myself and I pay them to do the few things I cannot, like handyman work, car repairs but I am always harassed because I own a business and I am a strong woman and I am pretty. They cant understand why I am alone, I am constantly asked this.

I remind them that my looks and gender are immaterial and have no bearing on my work. I am only concerned with accomplishments and being my best.

I was most complimented by an x during nasty argument where he attacked my car, a car men covet. I took this as a great compliment, as he didn't call me old, fat or ugly which would have been standard, instead he attacked my car, to me the highest compliment, now we were for once on a level  playing field!!!

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by lisa

I am not attacking you but if you think the only way to equality in a man's world, which it will always be so get over it, is to copy their antagonist, sparing behavior and not use your brain to solve problems in a concise, unemotional and dignified way, then you are choosing to stay un evolved.

 Hi lisa I like this statement. I've always said it was the "patriarchal politics" that was the problem, not the men. Thank you for this!

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by lisa

I have learned to do everything myself and I pay them to do the few things I cannot, like handyman work, car repairs

 There are women who are quite capable of doing handyman work and car repairs. You don't need to pay a man for that. Just learn how to do it yourself.

I do my own repairs here as much as I can and try to fix what I can on my motorcycle when it's not running properly (I don't own a car). A motorcycle manual comes in handy. Paying someone else is a last resort for me, not because I don't like relying on men, but because I don't like relying on anyone.

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Very well!!! You did make good points this time. Please remember I have been fighting this fight all my life and I will go to my death fighting it!!! I will compromise nothing!

I am grateful that younger women such as yourself will have an easier time in this world than I did, I am happy to see you succeed, your victory is a victory for all of us! You winning makes me win!

I am a history major and I am sickened by the abuse of women through history and how this disregard for us as the ones who bring life into the world and have had to endure so much is still propagated all around me.

Everyday I fight, I push back, I wont allow any abuse. I fought three guys in a group at my gym, I am small in stature but I backed them off, they were disrespecting women openly and I would not have it!

What I was trying to parlay to you earlier is that we do not need to adopt the weak behavior of men, we are better.

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Those are excellent points!! But because I am running a business and putting myself back through school with disabilities, I am exhausted all the time and it is more time effective to pay the slaves.

I do go to all women doctors and lawyers and if I could find a female mechanic, I would love that. I feel much more trust with women, I don't like dealing with men at all!

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I also like history, and I agree with you there.  There is still a lot of sick shit going on in the world, excuse my language ;)

I respect your life experience and your success, and I'm sure you did what had to be done when you did it.

Good talk.

Peace, internet person.

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Thank you too my friend :)

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