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Dear Sensy and Ed:

1. Even if we don't buy from these companies or purchase/eat the meat directly, how much of the labor and products/services that we DO USE or depend on RELY ON PEOPLE who consumed/purchased these products?

So there is no way to get around being tainted "directly or indirectly" by these businesses. We can't boycott "everyone who ate meat" or bought from a corporation destroying the environment.

2. However, the point is to patronize people/businesses who DO practice ethics we want to support as "sustainable."

We can't sustain the slave labor going into manufacturing, all from sweatshop workers in unlivable conditions.

So we are going to have to start converting businesses/manufacturing into more sustainable work programs.

So that means investing in companies taking steps toward sustainable and fair labor.

That part we can do something about as consumers. We are all lazy and using the cheap labor now. But given where the economy is going, we will have little choice but to start planning for conversion in the near future.

Conscience: No

I would never do: suicide

I dont think about I would never do, but when it's the best option. I do what I like, it doesnt matter me, if others get hurt, look above to my first two words. lol

Do you have one?

I have a pretty harsh conscience. I have a strong sense of rightness, but my sense of wrongness is a bit wonky as it tends to mix with the other. :p

Is there something you would never do?

I would never throw anyone under the bus of life.

Is there something that you genuinely prefer not to do but will when it's the best option?

I try not to let anyone rely on me too much unless there's no one else around. 

 Dear Lisa to make it as objective as possible, think of a program of two choices 0 for pain and1 for pleasure.

So the human conscience seeks to maximize pleasure/satisfaction/peace/security and to minimalize fear/pain/suffering/discomfort/displeasure. Like a "binary" progam yes or no, true or false, this choice or that one.

That's basically the human conscience. You want the better thing, and you follow your conscience to pick that out.

Now the reason choices get "biased" toward negative things that don't really help us is there are conflicts of interest.

If we can't resolve these, then we compromise one thing for another.

If we went through the trouble to resolve ALL conflicts we'd make perfect yes/no decisions.

So my advice is to try resolving as many past issues as possible so you do make more clear decisions in the future.

The less you "junk up your conscience" from carrying baggage around from the past, the more clear minded you will be to see what your best choices are and to make better decisions without compromising out of fear or avoidance.

 I only think about pleasure and my advantages.

There's no need to think about fear (what was this actually?) and the other people. In my opinion conscience means to be worry about the others. And also to follow the (un)wirtten rules of society.

Poor, who has to do this...

Exactly, I agree with this. Lol to the prior post :) 

I have a conscience, a very strong one in fact, and I feel things deeply. I've had a lot of guilt over the years. Many people refer to me as "one of the nicest, kindest people you'll ever meet", others have called me a psycho, which I'm not, but they had reason to perceive me that way. LOL

I've made mistakes. I've paid. I've never physically hurt an animal, child or woman. I've hurt some women mentally but they deserved it. They were manipulators (not very smart ones  LOL) and wanted to play games they weren't equipped to handle. If I have to teach a lesson I will but mostly that shit bores me.

I work on things a lot. One doc said I had IE disorder, but it doesn't fit because I can control my impulses very well when needed, and can be very patient. blah, blah, blah. I definitely have a code for when I do bad. 

btw: I eat very little meat. I'm big so I need protein and I've used plant proteins for years to supplement my workouts.  

  ditto RichardParker, but teaching someone a lesson never bores me, i just have to decide if i'm really willing to waste time & energy on it or not.

my conscience is a bitch, a heavy & strong one that i prefer not to take on.

this is why i make a choice to be fair and kind to others. i'm not necessarily nice, but i am very correct and fair and i genuinely do care. i don't fuck with people, ever. i don't lie, i don't manipulate, i don't do any of that negative and petty shit.

however, if somebody crosses me all bets are off. i don't seek revenge, i think that it's petty and pathetic, but i use the truth, that way my conscience is at peace. i can be very harsh and brutal, but everything i say and do will be correct, honest and truthful, and people seem to respect that. and to appease my conscience further i always warn everyone ahead of time not to fuck with me. i'm generally very loving and caring so they don't see it coming, which is why i give them a fair warning before they even think of fucking up.

honor and decency are totally my thing, people who don't have them are undeserving of respect in my opinion.

My conscience is pretty much perfectionism instead. Not so much a moral dilemma so much as one of personal order.

I fucking hate you...