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Hi Turncoat: It's one thing to know the limits. It's another thing to project the blame on the other person as their problem when some of it is you, and you could do more to change and grow. It shows in  your responses, if you attach emotional stabs at the person or if you are neutral.

You have gifts for interpretation and understanding/reading things that other people miss who aren't as intuitive.

But I sensed some negativity projected at me and Luna that shows you are not neutral and not fully at peace.

 I want to be included on the list! :) 

I believe myself to be well adjusted and am definitely caring and want to help others. I'm no Mother Theresa or Buddha, but all of my friends turn to me for advice, emotional support and help, so I must be doing something right! ;) hahaha! 

Clearly empath and female. :) 

So what would you recommend I do about this?

What blame have I been projecting exactly?

by emilynghiem

Hi Turncoat: It's one thing to know the limits. It's another thing to project the blame on the other person as their problem when some of it is you, and you could do more to change and grow. It shows in  your responses, if you attach emotional stabs at the person or if you are neutral.

You have gifts for interpretation and understanding/reading things that other people miss who aren't as intuitive.

But I sensed some negativity projected at me and Luna that shows you are not neutral and not fully at peace.

 you kinda use your smarts to be a fat vagina; but you are very smart

by emilynghiem

No i thought you said you had aspergers

And because of that, I'm easily scared?

Eh. Let me say it like this. If I had been more fearful sometimes, my life had been much smoother.

Try and see if you can scare me..... 

Hi Turncoat sorry if i misread sarcasm in your msg

But on the post to luna about people/humanity/bias

And the know it all comments to me it sounded defensive

As if you didnt respect us all as equally intelligent

Now if I came across as insulting you I apologize

I apologized there and here again to be clear

This is nothing that cant be clarified if it was based on

Misunderstanding the intent of msgs that came across wrong 

by emilynghiem

Hi Turncoat sorry if i misread sarcasm in your msg

But on the post to luna about people/humanity/bias

And the know it all comments to me it sounded defensive

As if you didnt respect us all as equally intelligent

Now if I came across as insulting you I apologize

I apologized there and here again to be clear

This is nothing that cant be clarified if it was based on

Misunderstanding the intent of msgs that came across wrong 

 you kinda use your smarts to be a fat vagina; but you are very smart reiterated

"But on the post to luna about people/humanity/bias"

She uses "Humanity" in place of the word "people" pretty often. It struck me as odd, so I asked about it. As for the bias bit, while she does talk of wanting to fight for the better of humanity, she also at times shows how she isn't like how they are, and implies at times we'd be better of being more like her. Naturally, from calling those not like her strongly biased, I questioned her about it, not to imply she has a stronger bias than those she's talking about, but to ponder the nature of how Luna could claim to be any less biased than anyone else.


"And the know it all comments to me it sounded defensive"

Know it all comments? You mean my response to doubting your claim, explaining why I would doubt your claim based on both what I think and why I'd think it, and then attempting to explain what I was meaning with Placebo Effect since you saw it differently than I intended?

You were turning "Daddy" and I's argument into a Strawman.


"Now if I came across as insulting you I apologize"

It's cool.

Sorry, I think we are miscommunicating and crossing wires/messages.

1. You thought I was saying "I had autism," but I thought someone said "you had Asberger's"

2. fear is a separate issue from that.

I thought you were "scared" this was some kind of game. So you were "scared to play."

So I said don't play games and there's nothing to be scared of. Then later you said you "didn't want to know"

so it sounded like you were "scared" again to think this was something negative or better off ignoring.

Is this more clear what I mean by being scared?

SS the basic types of fear are:

(a) fear of the unknown

(b) fear of change or control by external influence/authority

(c) fear of conflict or confrontation

So as long as you are okay addressing your fears, resolving them with knowledge and understanding,then there is nothing to fear that you can't get over.

One thing some other people are usually "afraid" to know about. When I bring up spiritual healing and how it works, many people freak out because it would change their perception and they are afraid of those changes.

Are you afraid of looking into this area and understanding why it has such an impact on society?

If you are not ready, that's fine, we can start with something else. But this concept usually scares people on multiple levels: their personal perception changing, their relationships changing and how they look at the world.

Can you handle that or do you want to talk about something else?

Thanks Sensitive. I think it's good to overcome fear. We all have a lot to learn here because we're all so different.

Appreciate you sticking around to discuss more things in depth.

Yours truly, Emily

 Hi Turncoat, thanks for this

1. If your criticism of Luna's bias was just objective logical points, I get this. I apologize if I misunderstood and thought there was any emotional defensiveness attached. Sounds like you were making logistic points. Thanks.

(As for bias, if Luna does not see her mother's Christian views as an equal language, then that counts as a bias "against" this system which Cipher may also have. Very few people are truly neutral. Most have preferences or biases and of course with politics/religion it get emotionally entangled with people's family cultures and relations)

2. What I meant by the "know it all" was whatever you said to me sarcastically about "knowing better than others" or whatever you said. That had nothing to do with the actual points. That was a crack at me personally as a knowitall.

That's how I took it. So whatever caused that misperception I apologized and thank you for counting this resolved.

3. As for Daddy and your argument, I thought a strawman was setting up a false definition/argument.

Placebo effect IS a valid concept.

I wasn't saying it was set up false.

I was saying these are two different applications or contexts.

That's another type conflict, but it's not called a strawman argument.

Either way, whatever you call this, I thought Daddy clarified what he thought I meant, and I said it was different.

Can we make sure this is clear cuz it still sounds messed up.

Where were those points made anyway, I think yours was on one thread and Daddy's on another?

If we don't resolve this, it will come up again, projected in different forms so might as well resolve it the first time.

Thanks Turncoat