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Sociopaths don't exist. Only people who don't dwell.

As I already indicated, I don't judge things as being positive or negative (good or bad). I am aware that certain things could be defined that way though according to society's laws, but I don't normally make a moral judgement on them myself.

I don't know if that's because I lack a moral conscience or because my emotions are limited.

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by Luna Prey

 my thesis is that humans, by nature, associate positively or negatively with things. as a result, they have an effect on our endorphines.

i found evidence by this today when i got some weed. i realized that even though it smells bad, i enjoy it so much now. because my mind has associated positively with it.

without the ability to assiciate positively or negatively with something, how does one know not to touch the stove?

my arguement is that endorphines and the human chase for them exists in sociopaths and non-sociopaths alike. the difference is that the sociopaths chooses to live in a mental reality that focuses on what's in front of them, and as a result, they don't really choose to take the time to feel. this allows them to be more cold and calculative in their decisions.

i think thrill is just bored to be honest~

Hmm.  Well, I would say yes, humans generally associate positively or negatively with things (sometimes a mixture of the two).  And yes, I'd say that affects our endorphins.  Or, perhaps, the endorphins affect us.

For instance, beer is generally hailed as an "acquired taste."  I remember the first few times I had beer (offered to me for free, when I was a broke college student used to drinking straight whiskey) I found it repulsive and completely ineffectual (I had a high tolerance from all the liquor).  I avoided beer for the most part until my senior year, when I was introduced to a proper lager.  It wasn't as bad.  I didn't love it, but it wasn't bad.  Fast forward a few years, and I've grown to crave a beer from time to time.

Both alcohol and marijuana have been shown to have an effect on our endorphins.  So yeah, I'd say you're right, when it comes to weed.  Even pain can release endorphins, so one might even grow to enoy that as well.

Elaborate more on this "mental reality that focuses on what's in front of them" bit.  I'm curious to see what you mean by that.  I do have great difficulty remembering to "stop and smell the roses".  It's hard to get me to focus on the present moment.  I was diagnosed with ADHD as a child (but have never taken medication for it; unless you count the occasional blunt lol).  I think I have some difficulty focusing on what's in front of me - unless, of course, I perceive a threat, or find an interest (in a person).  Then I generally have laser-sharp focus and tend to obsess.

Ps. I think a lot of us are bored.  ;)

 

by Thrill Kill

I know you were being sarcastic, but sometimes sarcasm hides truth. I think you do genuinely believe that people who experience emotional pleasure are vulnerable (squishy).

Heh.  Turning it around on me, eh?  I do think that people who experience emotional pleasure are vulnerable.  Of course, conversely, I also think people who do not experience emotional pleasure are vulnerable.  So no, I don't necessarily think that people who feel emotional pleasure are more vulnerable than those who don't - it's just a different vulnerability.  Everyone has a weak spot.

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So, according to you, everyone is vulnerable?

That's what you basically just told me.

Do you see yourself as vulnerable?

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 Yep, I'm pretty bored.  I don't think this went anywhere unexpected.

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Not necessarily emotionally vulnerable, but yes - everyone is vulnerable in some form or another, including me.

To desire is to suffer.  We all desire something; and when we can't have it - or have it, and inevitably lose it - we suffer.  Even if your desire is to murder, you either can't have it, or can't have it for long.  That is the human condition.  Nevermind the fact that your desires can always be used against you.

You appear to scoff at the notion that everyone - including you - could be vulnerable.  Tell me, why is that?

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To me vulnerability equals weakness and weakness is not something I admire. To admit you're vulnerable is to admit you're weak.

With that said, I do agree that everyone has weaknesses. I just don't think they should be exposed to others, because exposure can lead to exploitation.

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There is strength in self awareness.  ;)

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 I agree with that, but being self-aware does not require one to expose their weaknesses.

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sorry, i'll try to be more awesome next time 

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And I can agree with that.  I said I had vulnerabilities - I never said what they were.  ;)

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