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 Logical point. Now that I think about it, it is probably impossible for one to be entirely devoid of emotion.

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I do not think all those people have ADHD the way I see ADHD. In USA diagnosing is big business and too much money is involved. Also, I think a lot of the behaviors are quite normal for a child, it usually takes several years for a kid to chill and want to sit still and focus. The school environment is highly unnatural, especially for young kids, and saying someone is disordered because he does not fit into school at age 6-7 is pretty insane.

Both Asperger's/autism and ADHD/ADD is a spectrum spanning from pretty much ordinary to having severe problems. Of course what happens in the child's life will have an effect on behavior, but not in the twisted way the French psychologists think.

I can see a point in diagnosing those with the most severe issues. Also, one has to take in count, what is a problem today might not have been a problem 100 or 2000 years ago. What is "sane" is sometimes decided by environment.

ADHD is very overdiagnosed in USA and every issue is said to be ADHD, whether it is a life problem or something as serious as childhood bipolar disorder.

I'm not the one to decide where to draw the line between disorder and normal quirkiness. I don't think either it is especially beneficial to grow up with a label. Still, the way the society is set up, it might be needed in some cases. Where people with ADHD and Asperger's have "deficits" seems to make it really hard to follow the same narrow path as everyone else, and they are definitely not copies of NT's. Society is not ready to harvest their strengths unless they can first make it through the insane school system and whatever is demanded out of kids and youths.   

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It's not just that they overdiagnose those disorders, they outright scare the parents into believing it. It's one thing to draw the line in the wrong place, but it's another entirely to do that through fear.

To top it off, the body adapts to the medications to the point that, without it, they pretty much have a shadow of the disorder it was meant to treat. They are making a legion of pill poppers strung out to the point of turning psychological misfortune into a buisiness model.

On top of that, these children from starting medications so young never actually learn how to live with their problems, instead being given a bandage approach to living. Often, I've seen this lead to an assumption that anything that isn't instant gratification or results isn't worth the effort, choosing quick answers over answers that might take self-analysis and some real delving into their own psyches. Why face something painful when you can just take a pill to make it all go away? It's all chemicals up there, why not just switch some around instead of growing as a human being through experience?

The US model sickens me.

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It's neither a weakness or a strength.  It is what is.  The big question appears to be logic vs. emotion.  I believe that they are both good in some aspects.  Perhaps it is the people who can use both at an extreme who are the true rulers of the world.

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