Sociopath Community

 Thank you,

I would say the "emotional payoff" from ruining others for myself is similar to playing a video game.  While it is exciting and offers something to do, it is a very superficial type of exciting.  It's just something to do.  

One thing I'd like you to think about since you obviously have a large interest in the sociopathic mind is: why a sociopath would start a thread about ruining people.  What do you think the real reason for that thread was?  What type of people responded to that thread?  What did I gain from that?  I realize these questions will probably kill that conversation but I've already made up my return.  :)

It's interesting that you too also do not give a crap about how other people are feeling and you are compelled to ask the question every day.  This action falls directly under manipulation.  But it's an acceptible form of manipulation.  The wide spread acceptance of the action now free's you from the checklist.  I'm wondering what other items on the checklist have wide spread acceptance in one form or another.  Everything in factor 1 pertains to 90% of children.  Does this mean they are sociopaths?

Anyway, I appreciate the candid remarks.  You are offering some good perspective on some "un-askable" questions.

EDIT: also think about the people that did not respond to the thread. :)

 This is a very interesting discussion. 

I don't ruin people. That isn't to say I haven't broken them down. I've left a string of jilted, traumatized men in my wake, whom I used, abused and degraded for various reasons, and to varying degrees. I was not even aware of the severity of the emotional manipulation and abuse I inflicted on certain people. My self-control is better now, but frankly I'm always hanging on by a thread.

I was told once by someone here that I don't realize it when I'm turning in the screws. Eddie used to poke me on account of my absurdly low empathy quotient. My lack in this regard has definitely had an adverse impact on my self-restraint. I have strategically plotted against the interests of others to bolster my own agendas, but I have never gone out of my way to destroy a person's life, "just for the hell of it."

I know why I might post such a thread, if my intentions were malicious. But you seem to want to revel in and glamorize this aspect of your own "sociopathic mind". So I am going to bluntly request that you respond to your own questions: what were your underlying motives in posting such a thread- and what do you think posting or not posting in it says about the people on this forum

When you are breaking down someone, are you aware of what you are doing at that time?  Or is it more of an afterthought?  For the sake of conversation lets assume there is no "master plan."  How do you restrict yourself?  Is it based on a pattern or response from the individual?  An example for clarification: how does one know when to put on the brakes if he doesnt know if he's speeding?

Let's say we take the default definition of empathy from Wikipedia.  Based on your second comment does this mean you are unaware of emotions of another individual or that you are aware and disregard it as something that doesn't factor into the equation?  We could factor screw turning into the previous question and I'd like to also be blunt and not assume anything.

The sharks might smell this but, I believe I'm very observant when it comes to emotions.  The limiting factor here is that they require face to face interaction.  I am fully aware of the agreed upon "weight" given to actions and responses but they play no part in the decision making process.  For example:

John is making a decision on whether or not to cheat on Mary.  If he does, this is morally "wrong."  According to the world, the "wrong" is rated at "5."  John is fully aware that the world believes this "wrong" is rated a 5 but for John, it's not rated 0.  It doesn't even exist on the equation.

Maybe this "choice" doesn't make me a sociopath, maybe the "awareness" doesn't make me a sociopath, all I know is that when looking at a decision, weighing the pros and cons, the "wrong" plays no part in it.

Lastly, the response to poutine was intended to remove that thread from the conversation.  I agree that it did come out a bit glamorized and I will admit that after reading it over I come off sounding like a 15 year old emo kid for which I apologize.  The responses have been very interesting to read and the intention was to solicit further information without the other thread polluting it.

The thread was created to test the waters.  I have perceptions of the people in this forum, both good and bad, just like everyone else.  I created the thread to expedite my understanding of the different personas.  I was curious to see who is eager to "prove themselves."  I assumed that no one would share anything unless I wrote something first.  The story of ruin was purposely light.  I wanted to "feel out" the level of trust or perceived trust that the members are willing to give.  I was also able to better understand what the responding members want other members to believe is a "heavy" story.  In reality it may not actually be a heavy story, or a true story, but the level of story posted now has a baseline.  "If you do this kind of thing in this story, this is considered a 10."

Others who didn't reply I have several guesses including: (1) they saw right through it, (2) they didn't care, and/or (3) they were right about to until it was killed.   This does not mean that people who posted are better or worse than people who didn't.  All it means is at that specific time of the post, on that specific day, this is how that individual responds to a question like this.

This may come out wrong but I'm still teetering on what the purpose of the board is for myself.  Do I write some heavy ideas in here and look for genuine feedback from others that may or may not be like myself?  Do I use it as a source of entertainment, a place to conjure up an online persona and expend my energy maintaining it?  What is the baseline response of this forum?  What is the community like?  Is this primarily a "Call of Duty" channel on Xbox, or /r/suicidewatch.  (those who are unfamiliar, /r/suicidewatch is taken very seriously).

Curious as to where I am at now?  What I perceive this board to be?  It's a mixture of personalities and conversations.  One thread might be talking about the above, while another might be showing pictures of someone shitting themselves.  The answer is it's a process, it's something to figure out.  There is no black and white "this is where the screw fits."

I'll put myself out there (let the sharks circle) and say I can only speak for myself.  Maybe I'm not a sociopath?  Maybe I'm not anything?  The only thing I know is that I've done some things, had some thoughts, and know that sharing these things might not be acceptible.

"EDIT: also think about the people that did not respond to the thread. :)"

I find bragging about that sort of thing shameful. That and what "stories of ruin" I have are more like counter attacks after a weakness of my own was exploited first. I'd have been both posting weaknesses and making myself appear petty.

 i do not understand one part of this thread

 I will answer in more detail later, but I am largely unaware until I'm called on my shit or I've reduced the other person to a mess, but I wouldnt care how I made anyone feel if my faith did not mitigate some of my "worst" desires and actions.

I can imagine how other people feel. I am good at reading people, and mirroring them. But a person's emotional state rarely, if ever, impacts my own. I guess that means I am lacking "affective empathy".

 Reality is objective.  It exists outside your mind, your senses, as well as mine...

morality on the other hand is completly subjective.  All based upon the individuals ability to rationalize his/her place within that reality and their terms by which they wish to enteract with the objective reality placed before them.  Any discourse with your morals tryin to "create" an alternate reality results in delusional/magical thinking and can cause serious problems for that individual... Like a three week stint in a loonie bin;-)

 TL;DR...

You are long "winded".

 Are you on mind-numbing drugs?

 Why do you ask?

My mind is working just fine... My emotions are all fucked up...