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 The golden ratio only proves that math is part of our reality. Nothing more.

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The Golden Ratio is fixed, not random math. The mark of consciousness. Something more.

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 Mass and Gravity are fixed. The speed of light is fixed and so is sound. What does that prove? Just because it's fixed doesn't mean the invisible friend in the sky made it.

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The invisible friend in the sky, how backward.  

Are you suggesting Mass and gravity are fixed with no other values or something ?

When it comes to math, we are free to do it as we please. The Golden ratio remains the same in all things. Random or signature ?

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 As backwards thinking that there is some kind or consciousness that planned it all.  It's the same thing,You're just calling it something different. A rose by any other name and all. The Golden Ratio is just nature.  Making an argument that it's some kind of evidence of a consciousness is the same old argument as “Hey, look at that tree. Could anything but God make that?” Just on a different level.

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 The same argument my ass. The tree in not in all things, nor does the tree set standards for the progress we've made on a technological level, as well the best of what we've done. The unconscience cannot draw a picture of a person, let alone produce a living breathing creature. From one half to the next we are quite uniform in structure. You're free to believe what you wish, but to me, a random shot in the dark connecting the dots is foolishness. Because there is light, we have eyes. How ?

 

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 Because there is light, we have eyes. How ?

 

 

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 Richard Dawkins kicks ass!

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During the two minutes after reading this post I realized the following:

You would never be able to convince me to believe you

I would never be able to convince you to believe me

Arguing with you would be pointless

 

Also people can you seriously tell me with a straight face this guy is not a troll? I used to pull similar shit on another forum as a joke.

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He's been posting on the forum for months, we know him pretty well. He's not a troll, just ignorant and with the mind of a kid. The child part that makes him believe a lot of weird shit also makes him creative and with a very rich fantasy life. That's why he's not completely useless and someone actually hired him as a graphic artist.

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