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 I think this video highlights a couple interesting concepts:

Testosterone/cortisol levels and propensity for risk taking behavior.

Does anyone else see a coorilation between this and sociopathy? Remember risk taking behavior is one of the measurments for psychopathy.

Infact I think the more you look into these things the more you see there is a very close relationship between people of dominance/high testosterone and sociopathic tendancies. 

Someone with higher test is usually going to be larger as this hormone regulates mass production, this also lowers their fear responce and increases their propensity for risk taking... so I see someone more muscular and primed for aquiring a mate (sexual promiscuity/narcissism).

Testosterone is notoriously tied to agression, poor behaviour control, impulsiveness.

These same traits are selected for in our leaders. So again I believe the concepts of a sociopath are nothing more than the natural leaders of our species. Those with higher levels of testosterone.

 

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Irrational Risk taking == Jail. not presidency

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Risk is inherent in life specifically of productive people. There is risk in anyone saying "I will achieve this" with that is the risk of failure, the risk of ridicule, the risk of time wasted, the risk of money wasted... College for example is a risk, people spend thousands of dollars to put themselves through rigors of study. It is a risk that they may not be smart enough, that they may not study hard enough, that they may not be good enough. Risk is EVERYWHERE...

It is what seperates those who do, and those who live in their basement doing nothing but passing time with tv and videogames.

It takes great risk to do great things little one. ;)

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 yes, perhaps you are right

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 I always am. ;)

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by Jay

 I think this video highlights a couple interesting concepts:

Testosterone/cortisol levels and propensity for risk taking behavior.

Does anyone else see a coorilation between this and sociopathy? Remember risk taking behavior is one of the measurments for psychopathy.

Infact I think the more you look into these things the more you see there is a very close relationship between people of dominance/high testosterone and sociopathic tendancies. 

Someone with higher test is usually going to be larger as this hormone regulates mass production, this also lowers their fear responce and increases their propensity for risk taking... so I see someone more muscular and primed for aquiring a mate (sexual promiscuity/narcissism).

Testosterone is notoriously tied to agression, poor behaviour control, impulsiveness.

These same traits are selected for in our leaders. So again I believe the concepts of a sociopath are nothing more than the natural leaders of our species. Those with higher levels of testosterone.

 

 I can't watch the vid now. I agree with what's said here about ppl with high testosterone, I tend to deal with them a lot and am one myself, but why the fuck do you equate that to psychpaths. Not everyone with high testosterone is one, I already said this and I'll say it again. Psycho/Sociopaths have some other shit that defines them: they lack a conscience, can't form emotional bonds with ppl, are unable to love/feel guilt, can't empathize, are selfish.

Also: "Testosterone makes a dude bigger", "Testosterone is notoriously tied to agression, poor behaviour control, impulsiveness." and then "These same traits are selected for in our leaders." is kinda stupid. Maybe it used to be like this some milion years ago, but certainly not now...

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I can't watch the vid now. I agree with what's said here about ppl with high testosterone, I tend to deal with them and am one myself, but why the fuck do you equate that to psychpaths. Not everyone with high testosterone is one, I already said this and I'll say it again. Psycho/Sociopaths have some other shit that defines them: they lack a conscience, can't form emotional bonds with ppl, are unable to love/feel guilt, can't empathize, are selfish.
Also: "Testosterone makes a dude bigger", "Testosterone is notoriously tied to agression, poor behaviour control, impulsiveness." and then "These same traits are selected for in our leaders." is kinda stupid. Maybe it used to be like this some milion years ago, but certainly not now...

Look we've gone over this a few times, there is a link that you're just not seeing. To really understand this you have to see that psychology isn't a static field, you seem to think of psychopathy and narcissism the way you think of cancer and a cold, but mental disorders are not like that, they are not concrete things because the human mind is maleable and constantly changing.

Labels like psychopath or narcisist are not static concrete things. They are traits. People can be "PRONE" to certain behavior it does not mean that IS their behavior where as a person with cancer either has it or they don't.

If you would read some actual literature on psychology you would see that the ruling is still out. We know that people of certain genetic makeups can be more prone to agression (nature) but the vast majority of the psychological identity of a person comes from their life experiences. as such people are for the most part programmed to behave however they behave. If you believe this concept then people can also very much be unprogrammed. therefore the concept of a psychopath/sociopath are very much maleable and transit.

You are locked in this mindset that certain people do not feel emotions. that psychopaths are by their nature evil, you associate hitler with sociopath and great leaders with something else. (that actually goes into a totally different topic of perception and how the winner writes history, but I won't go there) Your flaw is in thinking in black and white while there is no black and white... its all shades of grey...

and another common problem is you think that because you've heard about psychopaths from popular culture, then they must be how they were first portrayed to you... but it's not like that, again we fall on a spectrum of behavior someone could be prone to displaying. Psychopath that was originally used to justify the incarceration of people that were a menace to society. It has since evolved from that. 

There is no such thing as a monster unable to empathise, if sociopaths were like that, they would be unable to manipulate their victims, quite the contrary sociopaths are excellent at mirroring emotions because they CAN empathise, They ARE capable of understanding the emotions of their targets to a very high degree.

 

In the end the thing you need to understand is humans like to be able to put things in nice neat little boxes, boxes that we can label. Psychopath/Sociopath is a box originally created for people who were capable of disassociating themselves from humanity to do things that are not accepted within our society. It was a box used for psychologists and judges to figure out a person. It is an imperfect system that is still not completely understood (even by the so called experts)

The truth is we are all capable of these sociopathic traits. some with high testosterone alpha male mentalities are even more prone to many of them... and those WITHOUT direction in life tend to be labeled as such and incarcerated...

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 I'll get back to this later

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 I always walk upright and put swagger into my step. I take long aggresive strides. In general just keeping my swag levels up.

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