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Purposelessness, and Death


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I'm making this out of my confusion. I hate people who mope around saying that "nothing matters anymore, we're all going to die one day, there's no objective meaning to our existence, humanity is a plague"


I would think that understanding that we have no designated destiny or reason for our creation, would be more liberating, WE ARE THE CUSTODIANS OF OUR DESTINY! I would also think that if death comes one day, perhaps just maybe, that would make people consider life more, perhaps try to enjoy it more, and try to make an impact on your fellow humans. 

The very concept of an afterlife is something I would hate. Not only would anything I do on Earth be meaningless, but the idea of existing forever sounds like a hell to me. 


I accept the fact that I might have a short life and might die. That in my current state of mind doesn't scare me, perhaps once the actual scenario of my death comes, the instinctual mechanisms built inside of me will freak out. 

I don't want to die, but if it comes to death in what I want to pursue, I accept it as my fate. That's just how it works.

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It's because of fear. Fear of responsibility for one's life. If everything is meaningless, you can do whatever and take no responsibility for your life and actions. You can give up as well.

 

I do like the after life, but that is the meaningless part. Because I don't know if it's there, so I live as if it's not.

Cheery bye!
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I was once that way, I was once suicidal and depressed over the purposelessness, the meaninglessness of everything, but then I realized. Why does that matter? It's as if we live in a sandbox, and through knowledge and labor, we can achieve a lot as a species. 



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Good said: 

It's because of fear. Fear of responsibility for one's life. If everything is meaningless, you can do whatever and take no responsibility for your life and actions. You can give up as well.

 

I do like the after life, but that is the meaningless part. Because I don't know if it's there, so I live as if it's not.

 I guess even as I say it, my viewpoint of what has meaning is on our contributions to our world and our progression as a species. 


We are the universe acknowledging itself. We are made of stardust, and so when I look at the Stars, and the Universe, I find it beautiful, Beautifully chaotic. There are copious amount of different factors that could erase Humanity off the face of the Earth, and sure that can be scary, but I love the universe we have, I wouldn't want it any other way, and I'd like to explore it, and learn more about it. 



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What if both your mindset and theirs, is an assumption and not based on imagination or rationality.

On top of that you talk about nihilism but, just like many people who over analyzed the course of the human existence and so on. You make a critical mistake.

You all seem to be undeniably sure that we will all die one day.

You base that on biology, history, facts, reason. But the truth is you don't really have any way to absolutely confirm that humans are meant to die at some point. -You assume

The claim "humans can attain immortality" is just as crazy as saying in 1800 that we will be able to fly and communicate through screens, and see ourselves in them.

My point here is, you lack the proper information input to deduct that we are all undeniably-doomed.

In conclusion, you assume that we are, based on information that you have that involves human lives in general, which is based on your life span, which is in fact nothing compare to how long this planet exist, or how long humanity exists.

-You-lack-the-proper-evidence-to-deduct-that nihilism is-accurate- Is what i am trying to say.

Now before you think that this is a supernatural topic or scientific fiction.

What makes you so sure, that humans are undeniable meant to have limited life.

And on top of that, why do you care about the after life, meanwhile you obviously haven't mastered the current one.

Proven by the fact that you question your own existence in a toxic site.

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last edit on 11/4/2019 3:39:21 PM
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Aizen said: 

What if both your mindset and theirs, is an assumption and not based on imagination or rationality.

On top of that you talk about nihilism but, just like many people who over analyzed the course of the human existence and so on. You make a critical mistake.

You all seem to be undeniably sure that we will all die one day.

You base that on biology, history, facts, reason. But the truth is you don't really have any way to absolutely confirm that humans are meant to die at some point. -You assume

The claim "humans can attain immortality" is just as crazy as saying in 1800 that we will be able to fly and communicate through screens, and see ourselves in them.

My point here is, you lack the proper information input to deduct that we are all undeniably-doomed.

In conclusion, you assume that we are, based on information that you have that involves human lives in general, which is based on your life span, which is in fact nothing compare to how long this planet exist, or how long humanity exists.

-You-lack-the-proper-evidence-to-deduct-that nihilism is-accurate- Is what i am trying to say.

Now before you think that this is a supernatural topic or scientific fiction.

What makes you so sure, that humans are undeniable meant to have limited life.

And on top of that, why do you care about the after life, meanwhile you obviously haven't mastered the current one.

Proven by the fact that you question your own existence in a toxic site.

?

 I didn't say humans cant obtain immortality, I'd like to think Transhumanism, something like that is possible, but I am uncertain. Does everyone not die at some point? Your ancestors aren't living today are they? I wouldn't think so. 
I never deducted humanity to be undeniably doomed? I'm not the depressed one.

What I view humanity as, is being created from a concoction of chemicals in millions of years ago that created eukaryotic life that evolved into us.


I don't question my existence as much, and this is a topic I pose not just here. I don't want an afterlife, and yea I haven't mastered my current life, that's the adventure, that's the journey, that is the FUN of it. An afterlife means nothing to me, I don't want to exist forever, maybe if I became immortal through transhumanism, I'd be fine living for a anywhere between a few centuries to a few millions years, but I do not want to exist forever. 


My fixation is on how any of this is actually hopelessness. I consider it liberating and free.

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Aizen said: 

What if both your mindset and theirs, is an assumption and not based on imagination or rationality.

On top of that you talk about nihilism but, just like many people who over analyzed the course of the human existence and so on. You make a critical mistake.

You all seem to be undeniably sure that we will all die one day.

You base that on biology, history, facts, reason. But the truth is you don't really have any way to absolutely confirm that humans are meant to die at some point. -You assume

The claim "humans can attain immortality" is just as crazy as saying in 1800 that we will be able to fly and communicate through screens, and see ourselves in them.

My point here is, you lack the proper information input to deduct that we are all undeniably-doomed.

In conclusion, you assume that we are, based on information that you have that involves human lives in general, which is based on your life span, which is in fact nothing compare to how long this planet exist, or how long humanity exists.

-You-lack-the-proper-evidence-to-deduct-that nihilism is-accurate- Is what i am trying to say.

Now before you think that this is a supernatural topic or scientific fiction.

What makes you so sure, that humans are undeniable meant to have limited life.

And on top of that, why do you care about the after life, meanwhile you obviously haven't mastered the current one.

Proven by the fact that you question your own existence in a toxic site.

?

Spoken like a politician, so much text, so little said and on a faulty premise.

We assume humans die because so far, everyone we know of has died. The assumption is rational.

 

One day humanity may achieve immortality. But it is irrational to assume this day will come in your lifetime, which is the concern of this topic.

Cheery bye!
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I was once that way, I was once suicidal and depressed over the purposelessness, the meaninglessness of everything, but then I realized. Why does that matter? It's as if we live in a sandbox, and through knowledge and labor, we can achieve a lot as a species. 

It matters because you said it does. You feel what matters. People are programmed by biology to know what matters, or you won't feel anything.

Seeking purpose in the random universe sucks dick. There is no specific purpose. And why should there be, why should we dedicate our lives to a purpose-made by not us? Some god? The universe? I want humans to become gods themselves one day instead.

 

 

Good said: 

It's because of fear. Fear of responsibility for one's life. If everything is meaningless, you can do whatever and take no responsibility for your life and actions. You can give up as well.

 

I do like the after life, but that is the meaningless part. Because I don't know if it's there, so I live as if it's not.

 I guess even as I say it, my viewpoint of what has meaning is on our contributions to our world and our progression as a species. 


We are the universe acknowledging itself. We are made of stardust, and so when I look at the Stars, and the Universe, I find it beautiful, Beautifully chaotic. There are copious amount of different factors that could erase Humanity off the face of the Earth, and sure that can be scary, but I love the universe we have, I wouldn't want it any other way, and I'd like to explore it, and learn more about it. 

The universe is a tool and we should wield it without fear to forge our path in existence. Make no mistake, the universe will try to kill you and stop you. Never fear it, never trust it and never stop. Teach the universe its place among humanity.

Cheery bye!
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Good said:
It matters because you said it does. You feel what matters. People are programmed by biology to know what matters, or you won't feel anything.

Seeking purpose in the random universe sucks dick. There is no specific purpose. And why should there be, why should we dedicate our lives to a purpose-made by not us? Some god? The universe? I want humans to become gods themselves one day instead.
Good said:
The universe is a tool and we should wield it without fear to forge our path in existence. Make no mistake, the universe will try to kill you and stop you. Never fear it, never trust it and never stop. Teach the universe its place among humanity.

 I'd say we share similar goals then, perhaps just different structures of how said goals would look. 

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