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Edvard said: 
Kestrel said: 

I just emailed primal. Asked what the deal was with the court case and the context around it.

She simply said she has no interest in the pf/sc shitshow right now

So, like I said earlier, Ed cares even more than Primal does about this. 

Cool, no more problems. 

 Primal does care about this. It was the only forum she was not banned from. Why would she admit it to a bunch of people who did nothing but reject her?

But does she actually want to be here? 

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Edvard said:

 Primal does care about this. It was the only forum she was not banned from. Why would she admit it to a bunch of people who did nothing but reject her?

Maybe there's a reason she keeps getting banned from forums? She was even banned from the at home skincare reddit DIY Reddit.

I knew the owner before she started her business, SEA. I won't be too surprised if she just shuts down without notice.

It seems to be because Natasha Tomicic is a creepy old pedoshart who gets banned from many places on the internet for harassing people less than half her age. There is nothing remotely interesting or worthwhile that this individual adds. New SC will be great as nobody has done much but tolerate her since she first came around. I'm sorry she invested so much time in forums people who don't give a shit about her and find her disposable. embarassed

But we all know the real reason is Taylor Swift paid off Luna to delete SC and TFI to ban her here. Taylor will not be overruled!

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Edvard said: 
Edvard said:
What Meta wants is way worse than anything Luna ever demanded of us in all the 6 years she paid for and worked for SC.

List what Luna's done wrong, you claim to remember everything and yet you can still make these weird claims. 

I have no patience to talk to you over this. The people who have any honesty know I am right.

I'm not being dishonest, I just don't know what things you think Luna's done wrong. 

I don't think you can list them, probably because you know Luna could read it or that it'd discredit your argument. 

I am very disappointed in this SC re-start. SC was never about good coding. I am considering for the first time leaving the community for good.

We'll see, I don't think you have anywhere else online that you'd deem worth going, and we're too deep in your skull for you to shake. 

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Kestrel said: 

I just emailed primal. Asked what the deal was with the court case and the context around it.

She simply said she has no interest in the pf/sc shitshow right now

 Context doesnt matter bro. It doesnt matter if its justified or not, letting primal come here is not up for debate

The only way we can be with primal together on a sc forum, is to create a new forum, period. No if or buts

If a strong rebellion regarding primal happens like Ed tries to cause, tfi will likely re-confirm with us, if confirmed take the forum down

So ye, tfi is the god of the forum. His forum software + pays the hosting (as far as i know). Except trypt who half assed went thru of starting a forum for the community, nobody else was willing to (except tfi). Nobody owes us shit, we should appreciate even having a proper, functional forum in the first place

Btw, isnt Sturm88 the person who had legal issues with Primal? If so her dox can be taken down if requested as shes a member in case *somebody* tries to get at her for keeping primal out

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Edvard said: 
Kestrel said: 

I just emailed primal. Asked what the deal was with the court case and the context around it.

She simply said she has no interest in the pf/sc shitshow right now

So, like I said earlier, Ed cares even more than Primal does about this. 

Cool, no more problems. 

 Primal does care about this. It was the only forum she was not banned from. Why would she admit it to a bunch of people who did nothing but reject her?

But does she actually want to be here? 

 Why wouldn't she want to be on a forum she cares about and the only one she wasn't banned from?

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Cawk said: 
Edvard said: 
Kestrel said: 

I just emailed primal. Asked what the deal was with the court case and the context around it.

She simply said she has no interest in the pf/sc shitshow right now

So, like I said earlier, Ed cares even more than Primal does about this. 

Cool, no more problems. 

 Primal does care about this. It was the only forum she was not banned from. Why would she admit it to a bunch of people who did nothing but reject her?

But does she actually want to be here? 

 Why wouldn't she want to be on a forum she cares about and the only one she wasn't banned from?

I was asking him, his answer'll be something interesting. 

I mean we all know she doesn't want to feel excluded from anywhere. 

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Edvard said:

 Primal does care about this. It was the only forum she was not banned from. Why would she admit it to a bunch of people who did nothing but reject her?

Maybe there's a reason she keeps getting banned from forums? She was even banned from the at home skincare reddit DIY Reddit.

I knew the owner before she started her business, SEA. I won't be too surprised if she just shuts down without notice.

It seems to be because Natasha Tomicic is a creepy old pedoshart who gets banned from many places on the internet for harassing people more than half her age. There is nothing remotely interesting or worthwhile that this individual adds. New SC will be great as nobody has done much but tolerate her since she first came around. I'm sorry she invested so much time in forums people who don't give a shit about her and find her disposable. embarassed

But we all know the real reason is Taylor Swift paid off Luna to delete SC and TFI to ban her here. Taylor will not be overruled!

 *harassing people less than half her age

Primal was overall the least liked member that was on sc lol. It was her fault though, people dont just dislike one out of nowhere this bad

She said a lot of antagonizing shit & provoked people/made fun of their childhood abuse out of nowhere, while campaigning as pedo hater. She tried her hardest to make me leave the site by "cyber bullying" lol. While it clearly didnt work i still dont like her for the malicious intent she had towards me

Its very convenient that its primal and nobody else that got thrown under the bus, she also encouraged luna to power abuse, saying it was right to ban people for being disrespectful towards her (luna)

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Edvard said:
What Meta wants is way worse than anything Luna ever demanded of us in all the 6 years she paid for and worked for SC.

I don't really understand how you can think it's way worse. Just like we reluctantly accepted that Luna could, at any moment, go on one of her powertrips we now have to accept that Primal is barred from here. It's not ideal but at least we have clearly defined limits to this 'exception' to SC's values (something we never had with Luna). We also don't have much of a choice seeing as this forum is the only one available to us.

Now, if TFI ever decides to go beyond just keeping Primal out then we'll obviously have to reconsider.

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Cawk said: 
Edvard said: 

This is not about you. I am trying to figure out if there is anyone left here who is not a disgusting hypocrite when it comes to SC values and catering to the whims of admins.

 You did your best to keep us out of sc for about 2 years for petty cp posting which wasnt nearly as a threat as letting somebody who has a history of suing people online over drama come to one's forum that is as unhealthy as this is--you were so persistent we even lost some members because of it too

We would not have a forum without TFI, you take the forum for granted and thats a problem. Nobody will run a forum for you on long term without having some sort of saying/gain in it, luna power abused and tfi wants primal gone, that's how it is.

Primal has proven to not be deserving of being in this type for community, suing fucking people online is taking it much further to the next level than petty cp posting that gets deleted within the same day anyways and no legal problems occur whatsoever

Your protesting will not get you anywhere in this state, Primal is perhaps the most disliked user ever and the rationale of keeping her away seems fair enough. With the choice of either her or the forum, people obviously take the forum. Constantly ranting about homosexuals i.e. what 98% of community is, mocking people for their child abuse i.e. lenas sexual abuse and things like this really put her in her place in the end didnt it, you ought to not expect from members to suddenly stand up for her, especially after TFI has made it clear he will not bend on his decision

Tfi mentioned this requirement of keeping Primal away already before he created the forum, trying to change that is a waste of time. Dont ruin this forum for the majority of community Ed. Ive understood that Tfi is more willing to take down the forum than let Primal come here.

If you still want to make a change, start by getting a new forum made. Otherwise theres no point in this protest. Nobody here wants to leave the forum and go to Discord over Primal, except maybe you

 Seeing Cawk admit to posting CP as if it were nothing harmful is funny. apparently "petty cp posting" is not something to be taken seriously in his and meta's eyes. that is far more concerning than any single ban. to see someone admit to posting cp and allow them to stay... chilling makes me happy i got away from that toxic user base

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Cawk said:
...than petty cp posting that gets deleted within the same day anyways and no legal problems occur whatsoever

This is actually something I'd tried to get through to the userbase for a long time. It's not illegal to have it on your website, it's illegal to allow it on your website. Does anyone think Google and Youtube get in trouble for having child porn on their websites? No, because when they find the means it gets reported and taken down. 

As long as the website has a clear policy about taking it down, and a clear effort is shown behind it, there's no problems. 

Cawk said:
If you still want to make a change, start by getting a new forum made. Otherwise theres no point in this protest. 

Bingo.

This isn't like Edgecom where we had a choice and people decided to fly Luna's banners for the lels and/or for some misplaced sense of patriotism, this is the website we've got. If Edo want a place that is exactly this but lets Primal in, he'll need to make it himself or find someone else who will, then present it to us as another option. To do anything but this is just stamping one's feet in protest. 

As is, this website's looking surprisingly promising so far, and legal actions is the most real reason I've seen when comparing SC's start with S-C's history. 

 legal action is very real, and tc posting in support of an admitited CP posting explaining how "cp isn't that bad" is really concerning.

you guys have turned into apologists for the posters of child porn. 

sc will die at this rate

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