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Major Major Major said: 

I think this is a good post and all I even waded through it. But am I the only one wondering:

Good said: 

Everything inside of you, everything that makes up what you are, your mind, your instincts, your flesh, your chemistry and so on, everything has the purpose of keeping you alive (and to procreate).

Why do zebras have stripes?

To blend in with other Zebras when they're gathered as a herd. 

Their natural pattern makes it difficult to tell how many of them there are. 

Turncoat said: 

Major Major Major said: 

I think this is a good post and all I even waded through it. But am I the only one wondering:

Good said: 

Everything inside of you, everything that makes up what you are, your mind, your instincts, your flesh, your chemistry and so on, everything has the purpose of keeping you alive (and to procreate).

Why do zebras have stripes?

To blend in with other Zebras when they're gathered as a herd. 

Their natural pattern makes it difficult to tell how many of them there are. 

You know what? I think zebras just have stripes because they decided it's fucking cool. And my theory is just as good as any of those scientists' who claim they blend in better when viewed through black-and-white vision.

Evolution doesn't optimize individual life. Whatever is suitable enough always survives. I mean look at fucking pandas. How the fuck are those cute fuckers optimized for survival?

Sintetika said: 

I agree with this, great work. I especially enjoyed the Fanaticism thread.

My only question on this would be the superhuman strength clip, I don't entirely know the biology of such a thing, it's very interesting, but I'm sure you put that there, not for an entirely literal scientific thing, but rather the idea of fighting no matter what against life. Of course, if it's valid, both still apply.

It is from an episode about superhumans on some science channel I watched and it is one of the key events that made me see how the world is.
I have a few more topics lined up, but I've not yet gotten to write them down.

Turncoat said: 

Some of this sounds like you're zealously making a case for bubble boying. 

Honestly, I'm more on board with Transhumanism's goal of fighting a war on death if not re-translating what it means to be alive in the first place. Even if that fails, the things left behind can permeate a detached sense of immortality. 

Why handle life as if it's a war when you can instead try to find your place within it harmoniously? Your ideology sounds paranoid and stressful at it's core, which isn't healthy for people who have the room to take it too far. 

This means you do not understand and you will fall for life's traps. If you get paranoid, you lost the war/a battle. If you do not enjoy yourself, you lost the war/a battle. If you are stressed, you lost the war/a battle.

You don't handle life as if it is a war, it is a war. You have to fight for everything and anything. And it is most fun, because it is a game of war.
I am neither paranoid or stressed partly because I figured this out. I've had some struggles with being paranoid in the past.

Good said: 

Turncoat said: 

Some of this sounds like you're zealously making a case for bubble boying. 

Honestly, I'm more on board with Transhumanism's goal of fighting a war on death if not re-translating what it means to be alive in the first place. Even if that fails, the things left behind can permeate a detached sense of immortality. 

Why handle life as if it's a war when you can instead try to find your place within it harmoniously? Your ideology sounds paranoid and stressful at it's core, which isn't healthy for people who have the room to take it too far. 

This means you do not understand and you will fall for life's traps. If you get paranoid, you lost the war/a battle. If you do not enjoy yourself, you lost the war/a battle. If you are stressed, you lost the war/a battle. 

Do you not see any value in losing? 

You also describe harmony unharmoniously. Life's more easily handled like upkeeping a garden than some hill you need to fight for. 

You don't handle life as if it is a war, it is a war. You have to fight for everything and anything. And it is most fun, because it is a game of war. 

A lot of life's little warfares are now handled outside of us though. We don't have to have a militant spirit in order to survive it now. 

I am neither paranoid or stressed partly because I figured this out. I've had some struggles with being paranoid in the past.

Your perspective still sounds guarded and wary of potential losses, and it doesn't sound like it offers the room to relax and breathe (I know you yourself do with video games and stuff, but things of that nature are arguably absent from the OP). 

I just don't see the value in handling life as if it were a series of conflicts when it can be handled in a myriad of other ways. 

Turncoat said: 

Good said: 

Sintetika said: 

I agree with this, great work. I especially enjoyed the Fanaticism thread.

My only question on this would be the superhuman strength clip, I don't entirely know the biology of such a thing, it's very interesting, but I'm sure you put that there, not for an entirely literal scientific thing, but rather the idea of fighting no matter what against life. Of course, if it's valid, both still apply.

It is from an episode about superhumans on some science channel I watched and it is one of the key events that made me see how the world is.
I have a few more topics lined up, but I've not yet gotten to write them down.

Turncoat said: 

Some of this sounds like you're zealously making a case for bubble boying. 

Honestly, I'm more on board with Transhumanism's goal of fighting a war on death if not re-translating what it means to be alive in the first place. Even if that fails, the things left behind can permeate a detached sense of immortality. 

Why handle life as if it's a war when you can instead try to find your place within it harmoniously? Your ideology sounds paranoid and stressful at it's core, which isn't healthy for people who have the room to take it too far. 

This means you do not understand and you will fall for life's traps. If you get paranoid, you lost the war/a battle. If you do not enjoy yourself, you lost the war/a battle. If you are stressed, you lost the war/a battle. 

Do you not see any value in losing?

Losing is an art itself. Ultimately when you lose, you must learn from it, not shake your resolve and not let your enemy even realize you lost, perhaps even find a way to use your loss to your strategic advantage.

This does not mean that you should accept losing as an option, it just happens.

You also describe harmony unharmoniously. Life's more easily handled like upkeeping a garden than some hill you need to fight for.

That is your choice. But it is stagnation in my world. You have the power to be more. And life is just weighing you down so you stop advancing: another one of life's tricks. You must neither stop nor try too hard. Do what you want and do what you think must be done. Disregard the odds against you and think of a plan that will get you what you want.

You don't handle life as if it is a war, it is a war. You have to fight for everything and anything. And it is most fun, because it is a game of war. 

A lot of life's little warfares are now handled outside of us though. We don't have to have a militant spirit in order to survive it now.

This is why a lot of people are weak. If you find a different way to be strong, I respect that as well. This is my way.

I am neither paranoid or stressed partly because I figured this out. I've had some struggles with being paranoid in the past.

Your perspective still sounds guarded and wary of potential losses, and it doesn't sound like it offers the room to relax and breathe (I know you yourself do with video games and stuff, but that's arguably absent from the OP). 

Relaxation is one of the rewards of winning battles. Relaxation itself is a battle when you feel like you should worry and/or be stressed. I almost never let myself worry. It happens, but its hard and usually never repeats on the same subject/topic.

Stare at your fear, overcome it and then calmly prepare for it and ignore it. When it strikes, you will calmly and confidently execute your plan, because you are ready and you will win. Do this enough and you will always be calm and confident because as you do it, you will also lose often and try and try and try, while still losing, until you start to win. Then you will fear neither loss or confrontation.

War is not won by being a hothead or stressed. It is the cool and cold minds that prepare, think ahead, have vision and resolve that win. Thinking war is stressful, is thinking it as either the loser, the civilian or a new soldier. You must think of it as the general. Soldiers, cities, people(or other objects in other contexts(money, relationships, etc)), they are all pawns and resources. While it may sound cold, this is the only way to ensure victory with minimal loss (including loss of life if it is with real people).
This does not mean to backstab your friends, if you value your friendship, because losing your friendship is rarely an acceptable loss towards a war. You must think of everything in context and anything can be part of the equation: friends, emotions, money, ideas, etc.

I just don't see the value in handling life as if it were a series of conflicts when it can be handled in a myriad of other ways.

Life is a series of conflicts and I always handle things as they are. It is my way(dealing with things as they are) and I can't say if its the best, but it sure feels like it to me, so I use it.

Good--

I know we all have our individual stories, and I know how we all hate those people that come barge in and tell us how we're supposed to live our lives. I have to work so hard and keep up with people, learn my lessons, and then share my thoughts, just to have someone fucking rape what I say and throw my life experience in the shitter. And I don't have anything against you personally, I enjoy your presense.

But for the love of God, get a grip. You sound like Ahmad Suradji talking about his father's ghost directing him to drink 70 dead young women's saliva so that he can become a mystic healer. I have no idea what you're rambling so dogmatically about and can relate to just about 0% of anything you say. It's like you live in a fucking fantasy world. That's how it sounds to people.

I mean I'm sure you've some stories of your own and all that and you probably struggled in life. But please get a grip. Seriously.

It's irrelevant how I sound.

Good said: 

It's irrelevant how I sound.

Irrelevant to what? Life's survival? It's pretty fucking relevant if you want to convey anything.

I mean holy shit, no offense, but I read all of what you wrote. It's similar to the bullshit they have on /r/zen. I bet it would sound hell of a lot less mysterious if you made even the minimal effort to draw examples and connect to something more concrete than evolution.

No hate here, this is all love.

Good said: 

Turncoat said: 

Good said: 

Turncoat said: 

Some of this sounds like you're zealously making a case for bubble boying. 

Honestly, I'm more on board with Transhumanism's goal of fighting a war on death if not re-translating what it means to be alive in the first place. Even if that fails, the things left behind can permeate a detached sense of immortality. 

Why handle life as if it's a war when you can instead try to find your place within it harmoniously? Your ideology sounds paranoid and stressful at it's core, which isn't healthy for people who have the room to take it too far. 

This means you do not understand and you will fall for life's traps. If you get paranoid, you lost the war/a battle. If you do not enjoy yourself, you lost the war/a battle. If you are stressed, you lost the war/a battle. 

Do you not see any value in losing?

Losing is an art itself. Ultimately when you lose, you must learn from it, not shake your resolve and not let your enemy even realize you lost, perhaps even find a way to use your loss to your strategic advantage.

Acceptance of a loss can reduce it's impacts, and utilizing it before someone else can can let you steal your own loss' thunder. In general, what it means to win or lose is largely self-defined, so if you can reduce the impacts of said loss without detaching from it then you're arguably that much more open to life experiences than someone who charges into every opportunity like it's a mission. There is value in knowing how to sit still and just take things as they come (Bumi's point about Neutral Jing). 

How many losses towards the same situation do you figure is too many? I've gone with losing being life's greatest teacher while winning just confirms where you already were, and I've found it worth climbing to pursue others of even greater skill to amount to even more noteworthy losses. 

I think more people would benefit from learning how to relax and otherwise find balance in their lives instead of pointing all their emphasis forward. 

This does not mean that you should accept losing as an option, it just happens.

So you don't believe in the notion of "cutting your losses"? 

There's a point sometimes when you just have to take the loss instead of pushing further. 

You also describe harmony unharmoniously. Life's more easily handled like upkeeping a garden than some hill you need to fight for.

That is your choice. But it is stagnation in my world. You have the power to be more. And life is just weighing you down so you stop advancing: another one of life's tricks.

What's the point of being more if it's not an enjoyable path though? Why climb if that's not otherwise your natural path? 

I don't see the value in the climb anymore beyond the financial incentives. I'd rather be able to relax with little than constantly struggle to grasp at 'more'. I'd rather be sated than constantly hungry. 

You must neither stop nor try too hard.

I understand the latter, but what's really wrong with stopping beyond immediate context? 

If you're in a position where you don't have to do any more, why do more beyond your own individual reasons (like boredom)? 

Do what you want and do what you think must be done.

See, this is where I figure that in many cases that it makes more sense to reappraise ones stances and goals instead of push too hard over your own. 

Why work on changing the world when I could instead work on myself within it? There's a lot less to work with if I keep it smaller like that. 

Disregard the odds against you and think of a plan that will get you what you want. 

Disregarding the odds isn't really smart for the majority of cases...

You don't handle life as if it is a war, it is a war. You have to fight for everything and anything. And it is most fun, because it is a game of war. 

A lot of life's little warfares are now handled outside of us though. We don't have to have a militant spirit in order to survive it now.

This is why a lot of people are weak. If you find a different way to be strong, I respect that as well. This is my way. 

Strength and Weakness are the same though beyond the context of the moment. A lot of guides even advise that people find ways of turning their weaknesses into strengths instead of going the Jack of All Trades route. 

Without having to focus on what once was required to be "strong", strength could instead be found in other, potentially more nuanced ways. 

I am neither paranoid or stressed partly because I figured this out. I've had some struggles with being paranoid in the past.

Your perspective still sounds guarded and wary of potential losses, and it doesn't sound like it offers the room to relax and breathe (I know you yourself do with video games and stuff, but that's arguably absent from the OP). 

Relaxation is one of the rewards of winning battles. Relaxation itself is a battle when you feel like you should worry and/or be stressed.

Relaxing can happen through tons of paths though, there's people who give away all of their possessions and sit in one place as their path to comfort. How it happens is on the individual in question, and I see more sense in adapting to what's available instead of reaching for what isn't yet there.

You can't just charge into all situations expecting to get it the way you want, especially these days without some sort of passion project's worth of financial backing. Most people tend to make it by adapting to a current need instead of insisting upon their own. 

I almost never let myself worry. It happens, but its hard and usually never repeats on the same subject/topic. 

That... seems unhealthy to me. 

I think gaining a proper tolerance to worrying is preferable over avoiding it. It can be a positive helpful ally if it's handled with moderation. 

Without worry there is no plans or strategy. 

Stare at your fear, overcome it and then calmly prepare for it and ignore it.

Ignore it!? 

No, no it should be weathered through, not ignored, otherwise you won't learn from it beyond how to not deal with how unpleasant it'd have otherwise been.

I'd rather deal with how unpleasant it is so that I might understand it, otherwise I'm burying something "my enemies" (or myself) might use against me later. I'd rather understand it so that it won't be my better, but rather my equal, allowing for some means of steering it from within it as well as a means of further relating to others going through the same things.

When it strikes, you will calmly and confidently execute your plan, because you are ready and you will win.
This is just detachment, and it's liable to inhibit growth while you pat yourself on the back in a Vulcan style. "It's the logical thing" is typically a cope to avoid the harder aspects of feeling, and it's even used like that in Star Trek itself about Spock in particular, praising his moments where he's more human than vulcan for that being the harder path to take. 

Avoiding feeling the situation means less experience serves to be gleaned from it. It has to have feeling or it's no different than just reading something out of a textbook. 

Do this enough and you will always be calm and confident because as you do it, you will also lose often and try and try and try, while still losing, until you start to win. Then you will fear neither loss or confrontation. 

This is avoidance. 

You may be physically present for the circumstances, but this sort of "planning" only serves to not fully deal with things. It depreciates it's depths. 

War is not won by being a hothead or stressed. It is the cool and cold minds that prepare, think ahead, have vision and resolve that win. Thinking war is stressful, is thinking it as either the loser, the civilian or a new soldier.

You must think of it as the general. Soldiers, cities, people(or other objects in other contexts(money, relationships, etc)), they are all pawns and resources.

What's wrong with thinking like "A Civilian"? They're civil. 

While it may sound cold, this is the only way to ensure victory with minimal loss (including loss of life if it is with real people).

I mean in life or death circumstances sure, you do what you have to, but when you have choices it's really more of a matter of preference. 

"Victory" is not one set of terms, and keeping them adaptive instead of all pre-planned is how to be ready for more. Blocking out the shit you don't like is a quick way to becoming rigid and unadaptive, even if the way you're doing it is through sub clauses within it (namely the depths of one's invested feelings) instead of avoiding the entire thing. 

This does not mean to backstab your friends, if you value your friendship, because losing your friendship is rarely an acceptable loss towards a war. You must think of everything in context and anything can be part of the equation: friends, emotions, money, ideas, etc.

As Neegan said many times on Walking Dead, "People are a resource". 

Life is a series of conflicts and I always handle things as they are. It is my way(dealing with things as they are) and I can't say if its the best, but it sure feels like it to me, so I use it.

I feel like an afternoon at the Spa might do you some good. It sounds like a dig, but I mean this as someone who unironically enjoys the Spa experience now. 

You can still handle life responsibly without it having to seem so demanding. "Perception is Reality" effectively, and realigning one's goals oftentimes makes more sense. 

As a former chronic pre-planner, I'd say that if you can work on yourself to be able to handle what's thrown your way without pre-planning it all and emotionally detaching from it to see it through, you'll be that much more ready for The Unexpected. If you can't plan for everything, then it makes sense to plan for that.