Sociopath Community

aubrieta said: 

basically what im saying is maybe like PUT A WEEK BAN ON POSTING cp or talking about it excessively, and then let him back in. Rinse and repeat. 

 

same with primal. teach them how to behave appropriately without ostracizing them completely and permanently 

I dont want CP forever, not for a week lol.
You don't teach people anything by being tolerant and accepting(of their bad behavior, not of them), they need to suffer the consequences of their actions first.

Also Primal is insane, she is not normal, she is psychotic, it is actually impossible to reason with Primal. You do know that Primal was as close a friend of mine as anyone and i have very few, but very close, friends. She is insane. Someone has to put an end to it.

aubrieta said: 

i think doing that enough times even if its tedious at first will eventually lead them to calm down on their most offensive behaviors. and i guess i just have never liked seeing anyone excluded from sc and most of us feel the same 

Yes and I've done/seen this in the community I've administrated.
But there are limits to those that are the worst. You have to treat people as people, not objects that are the same, it is the truth.
People have to want to change before they can change. You can't force that on them.

I closed SC before I decided to ban anyone over your heads.
You can say I am not a good fit for SC, but I disagree that I am a bad leader, based on your reasons here. I do what I must.

Good said: 

aubrieta said: 

basically what im saying is maybe like PUT A WEEK BAN ON POSTING cp or talking about it excessively, and then let him back in. Rinse and repeat. 

 

same with primal. teach them how to behave appropriately without ostracizing them completely and permanently 

I dont want CP forever, not for a week lol.
You don't teach people anything by being tolerant and accepting(of their bad behavior, not of them), they need to suffer the consequences of their actions first.

 

Also Primal is insane, she is not normal, she is psychotic, it is actually impossible to reason with Primal. You do know that Primal was as close a friend of mine as anyone and i have very few, but very close, friends. She is insane. Someone has to put an end to it.

 

aubrieta said: 

i think doing that enough times even if its tedious at first will eventually lead them to calm down on their most offensive behaviors. and i guess i just have never liked seeing anyone excluded from sc and most of us feel the same 

Yes and I've done/seen this in the community I've administrated.
But there are limits to those that are the worst. You have to treat people as people, not objects that are the same, it is the truth.
People have to want to change before they can change. You can't force that on them.

I closed SC before I decided to ban anyone over your heads.
You can say I am not a good fit for SC, but I disagree that I am a bad leader, based on your reasons here. I do what I must.

i mean when you brought up him reveling in it thats a really good point, and the fact that he doesnt want to change. he should want to change and the only place he will truly find acceptance to not change would be a pedophile community like you said

I just wish there was some way we could help him want to change somehow. like motivate him with acceptance if he puts an effort into it. maybe it wouldnt work on cawk in particular idk but i wish it would

and yes im aware primal is insane lol and probably not able to be reasoned with. I didnt know you were ever friends with her so that has changed my perspective a little bit too 

If Cawk were to be shown love and compassion he'd buckle eventually, he definitely can  control himself. He has signaled this over a long period of time, in various ways. However this would require a lot of mental and emotional effort as well as constant validation from members of the community.Cawk expects people to put in this kind of effort for him but he doesn't understand that most people don't have the desire and motivation to do that, for him.

So he signals what he wants, and when his "demands" are not met, he lashes out from a deluded sense of justice. It's clear what it would take for him to stop being a shithead, but the reality is that it's far easier to just get rid of him rather than to placate him on his own terms. He believes that he's in a position to make demands. 

Xadem said: 

If Cawk were to be shown love and compassion he'd buckle eventually, he definitely can  control himself. He has signaled this over a long period of time, in various ways. However this would require a lot of mental and emotional effort as well as constant validation from members of the community.Cawk expects people to put in this kind of effort for him but he doesn't understand that most people don't have the desire and motivation to do that, for him.

So he signals what he wants, and when his "demands" are not met, he lashes out from a deluded sense of justice. It's clear what it would take for him to stop being a shithead, but the reality is that it's far easier to just get rid of him rather than to placate him on his own terms. He believes that he's in a position to make demands. 

 yes this is likely true, i would be willing to give him the validation and acceptance but not everyone here is and he wants everyone to "or else" type of mentality

hey i posted tips on how to help with dissociation and started a lot of great topics for people to talk about or make conversation around!! 

Xadem said: 

Is this a result of them posting more than usual, or us posting less than usual? It wasn't like this 4 days ago was it? I didn't leave you lot when it was already doing this, right ? 

It's other people being on less. Attendance hasn't been at it's highest, but that's bound to happen after a temporary forum shut down during Summer. 

Just wait until it hits Fall, people get all weird and frantic like they do in the Spring, but with social drama instead of adrenaline. Summer's typically our slowest season. 

Good said: 

aubrieta said: 

Good said: 

aubrieta said: 

bring back cawk :)

He can go to your pedo discord server and forum, or lunas pedo forum

This is not a pedo forum, sorry

 not banning someone just because of their sexual attraction doesnt make it a pedo forum

Anyone enabling such creatures and giving them a platform/place where they feel safe and included(while still being a pedo) is giving the pedophile security and acceptance.
They may even be worse than the pedos in the grand scheme of things.

You don't see keeping them quiet as further enabling pedophilic behavior through other mediums? 

This 'man' has a folder of abused children, crying and fucked. And he jacks off to it. In case you needed a better perspective.

You can't actually prove that. 

aubrieta said: 

thats weirdly obsessional to think that way, why would you put them on a pedestal like that above all the other users?

What a nonsense post

Not really, it's her comparing pedo spam that isn't directly CP to other forms of shitposting. 

aubrieta said: 

Good said: 

aubrieta said: 

Good said: 

aubrieta said: 

bring back cawk :)

He can go to your pedo discord server and forum, or lunas pedo forum

This is not a pedo forum, sorry

 not banning someone just because of their sexual attraction doesnt make it a pedo forum

Anyone enabling such creatures and giving them a platform/place where they feel safe and included(while still being a pedo) is giving the pedophile security and acceptance.
They may even be worse than the pedos in the grand scheme of things.

 

This 'man' has a folder of abused children, crying and fucked. And he jacks off to it. In case you needed a better perspective.

aubrieta said: 

thats weirdly obsessional to think that way, why would you put them on a pedestal like that above all the other users?

What a nonsense post

no its not, you are literally trying to label an entire forum based off of the existence of 1 or 2 forum members having that mental issue

yeah it is morally wrong and I dont agree with owning child porn or having sex with children or understand that desire but ostracizing them from social groups and making them feel ashamed and excluded wont change anything about their disorder, a lot of times they end up having to hide it and the desires being so taboo will grow and take over, where as if they were able to be understood and accepted by others without being enabled to abuse any children that would actually make a difference.

I... don't disagree. 

Good said:

Unlike cawk, Jim has made improvements in his life.

So is this what it'd take for him to come back? 

Edvard seems convinced that he's trying to, and there's been no CP on there since. 

Because I do not let the forum become a cesspit of pedophilia.
I am a better leader, but I am not a leader of pedophilia accepting and enabling community. I shut down SC because I figured SC is such a community and there will never be a compromise I will accept where pedophilia stays. I was convinced it is not.

This behavior just further demonstrates that Cawk won, especially when others guilty of pedo-posting remain unaddressed. 

This is blacklisting, lets not play pretend. He got you by the feels and this is your emotional retaliation. 

Anyone who can't make a stand is not a good leader, they are timid, indecisive, slow and have no balls. Anyone that is too swayed by the collective is also a bad leader.

So Edvard's a good leader? Luna too? 

Your tolerance for pedophilia is your right(as long as I have no say in it), so you can go and make a forum accepting it, but this is not the forum for it here and I will never accept it. I do not have any issues with you running a forum. But I will never be nice to the subject of accepting that vileness anywhere, so you may as well stop trying to make me.

You're being weak, yet you sit here calling it strength. 

He hurt you. 

Xadem said: 

If Cawk were to be shown love and compassion he'd buckle eventually, he definitely can  control himself.

He was just starting to two days before the forum shut down...

Cawk expects people to put in this kind of effort for him but he doesn't understand that most people don't have the desire and motivation to do that, for him.

And this is what makes it a popularity contest. 

Cawk's being banned less for being a pedo, and more for being detestable and annoying. There's other pedos on here and we haven't stopped them. 

So he signals what he wants, and when his "demands" are not met, he lashes out from a deluded sense of justice.

...yeah his rants got a little weirder when he couldn't see if he should or shouldn't Halo Luna. 

He's actually been offline for almost a week now on all platforms I know him to be on. 

It's clear what it would take for him to stop being a shithead, but the reality is that it's far easier to just get rid of him rather than to placate him on his own terms. He believes that he's in a position to make demands. 

Easy answers don't make them right.