I hate myself.
Gemini said:The consequence of no discipline is a breakdown in structure and accountability, which blurs the line between right and wrong, hinders personal growth, and fosters behavioral or social challenges.
Behavioral and Social Consequences* Blurred Boundaries: Without consistent boundaries, it becomes difficult to distinguish proper behavior from unacceptable actions, which normalizes repeating wrongdoings.
* Social and Life Skills Deficits: Growing up without structure can lead to poor interpersonal skills, a lack of long-term goals, and difficulty handling authority or responsibilities in adulthood.
* Entitlement and Resistance: A lack of accountability often breeds an entitlement attitude, making cooperation and independent functioning harder later in life.
Psychological and Emotional Impacts
* Impaired Problem-Solving: Relying entirely on a lack of rules prevents individuals from learning how choices connect to outcomes, reducing emotional regulation and resilience.
* Escalating Misbehavior: Without clear deterrents or guidance, minor infractions often escalate into more severe behavioral issues.
There's good news. Hating yourself is a step in the right direction that indicates a motivation and potential drive to improve oneself.
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While none of you will procreate, I'd encourage you to beat your children when their bad, or else they'll be prone to hating themselves along with the world.
Research suggests the opposite. A 2016 meta-analysis by Gershoff and Grogan-Kaylor, involving over 160,000 children, found that physical punishment was associated with lower self-esteem, increased aggression, and worse mental health outcomes. A 2021 review of 69 longitudinal studies also found no evidence that physical punishment improves children's behavior or development. So what evidence do you have that beating children prevents self-hatred when the available research indicates the opposite?
Sources:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7992110/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8612122/
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Research suggests the opposite. A 2016 meta-analysis by Gershoff and Grogan-Kaylor, involving over 160,000 children, found that physical punishment was associated with lower self-esteem, increased aggression, and worse mental health outcomes. A 2021 review of 69 longitudinal studies also found no evidence that physical punishment improves children's behavior or development. So what evidence do you have that beating children prevents self-hatred when the available research indicates the opposite?
Sources:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7992110/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8612122/
160,000.
There aren't even that many days in a 100 years. Andy Grogan-Kaylor and Elizabeth Gershoff. They are activists who think they are doing the right thing in the same way universities teach fake pronouns to the public. Selling books and shit, the science is made popular and at the same time upcoming generations are more and more snow flakey with their safe spaces and death to comedy. That's mental disorder in my opinion. People who need to grow a callous late in life break easy.
You look this up and it's all popular science, modern university professor rubbish,
I'll tell you this, if this guy has children, they would destroy his credibility. Same with Elizabeth, she sure as hell doesn't have any.
A beat down is historically proven. We grow up and we're good with our parents with some considerations.
People who faced corporal punishment, we talk about it among others who were also punished this way and a party breaks out, it's comedy to us.
Spoiled and entitled people ( sorry not trying to strum your strings ) grew up not afraid to cross their parents and bring shame to them. A little time out and grounding LOL, small price to pay while the real world isn't exactly a slap on the wrist.
I never seen someone grow up crying "My dad broke my ass cause I gave my little sister an uppercut"
You haven't addressed either study. The 160,927 children weren't observed individually by two researchers over 160,000 days. The meta-analysis combined data from 75 separate studies. Your comparison to the number of days in a century demonstrates a misunderstanding of how research synthesis works.
Calling the researchers activists, speculating about whether they have children, and complaining about pronouns does nothing to invalidate their findings. If you think their methodology is flawed, identify the flaws.
Your personal experience isn't evidence that corporal punishment produces better outcomes. The fact that some adults laugh about being beaten as children doesn't establish that it improved their psychological development. Likewise, the historical prevalence of physical punishment doesn't demonstrate its effectiveness.
The 2021 review examined 69 longitudinal studies and found no consistent evidence of developmental benefits from physical punishment. These studies followed children over time, making the evidence substantially more informative than your personal recollections.
You're arguing that beating children produces resilient, disciplined adults, but you've provided no empirical evidence establishing that relationship. You're simply assuming that because you experienced physical punishment and consider yourself well-adjusted, the punishment must have benefited you. You repeatedly resort to attacking, degrading, and judging other people while presenting yourself as evidence that physical punishment produces well-adjusted adults.
Where is your evidence that physical punishment produces better psychological or behavioral outcomes than nonviolent discipline? You seem to be evidence of becoming insecure and aggressive because of it.
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tony resorts to ad hominem because his narcissistic mind only cares about appearance
Reality itself has nothing intrinsically to do with punishment or anyone's desire to inflict suffering. He's projecting his own punitive worldview onto reality and treating it as an objective truth, which distorts his reasoning.
He struggles to comprehend that some people grow up without having to fear being slapped, threatened, or otherwise mistreated. Rather than accepting that such experiences aren't necessary for healthy development, he dismisses those who haven't endured them as "spoiled," particularly when they're people he already dislikes.
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tony resorts to ad hominem because his narcissistic mind only cares about appearance
Reality itself has nothing intrinsically to do with punishment or anyone's desire to inflict suffering. He's projecting his own punitive worldview onto reality and treating it as an objective truth, which distorts his reasoning.
He struggles to comprehend that some people grow up without having to fear being slapped, threatened, or otherwise mistreated. Rather than accepting that such experiences aren't necessary for healthy development, he dismisses those who haven't endured them as "spoiled," particularly when they're people he already dislikes.
False.
tony resorts to ad hominem because his narcissistic mind only cares about appearance
Reality itself has nothing intrinsically to do with punishment or anyone's desire to inflict suffering. He's projecting his own punitive worldview onto reality and treating it as an objective truth, which distorts his reasoning.
He struggles to comprehend that some people grow up without having to fear being slapped, threatened, or otherwise mistreated. Rather than accepting that such experiences aren't necessary for healthy development, he dismisses those who haven't endured them as "spoiled," particularly when they're people he already dislikes.
False.
It's true not false.
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You haven't addressed either study. The 160,927 children weren't observed individually by two researchers over 160,000 days. The meta-analysis combined data from 75 separate studies. Your comparison to the number of days in a century demonstrates a misunderstanding of how research synthesis works.
Yes I read about it. Years later both "researchers" preach the same thing.
Calling the researchers activists, speculating about whether they have children, and complaining about pronouns does nothing to invalidate their findings. If you think their methodology is flawed, identify the flaws.
All I said is they are the same as the university professors that teach fake pronouns. That's valid.
Your personal experience isn't evidence that corporal punishment produces better outcomes. The fact that some adults laugh about being beaten as children doesn't establish that it improved their psychological development. Likewise, the historical prevalence of physical punishment doesn't demonstrate its effectiveness.
The 2021 review examined 69 longitudinal studies and found no consistent evidence of developmental benefits from physical punishment. These studies followed children over time, making the evidence substantially more informative than your personal recollections.
You're arguing that beating children produces resilient, disciplined adults, but you've provided no empirical evidence establishing that relationship. You're simply assuming that because you experienced physical punishment and consider yourself well-adjusted, the punishment must have benefited you. You repeatedly resort to attacking, degrading, and judging other people while presenting yourself as evidence that physical punishment produces well-adjusted adults.
Where is your evidence that physical punishment produces better psychological or behavioral outcomes than nonviolent discipline? You seem to be evidence of becoming insecure and aggressive because of it.
Consequence is all it is. Doesn't require evidence if you're smart enough.
Do dumb shit and see what happens. For some it was getting their ass handed to them. I know you'd argue being grounded and sent to go play in your room is better, but no.
When the kids are bad, beat them, or else the world will when they grow up.
Gemini said:Adults who lacked structure, boundaries, or discipline during childhood often develop specific behavioral, emotional, and social traits as they grow up.
Common Traits in Adulthood
• Poor Impulse Control: Difficulty regulating immediate desires, spending habits, emotional outbursts, or frustration tolerance.
• Difficulty with Authority: Rejection of workplace rules, management, deadlines, or social norms because they never learned to accept external limits.
• Entitlement or Expectation of Special Treatment: Believing the world should bend to their wishes without needing to put in consistent effort or compromise.
• Low Frustration Tolerance: Giving up easily when faced with minor obstacles, criticism, or hard work.
• Relationship Struggles: Trouble maintaining long-term partnerships or friendships due to a lack of accountability, poor conflict resolution, or selfishness.
• Anxiety and Insecurity: Paradoxically, a complete lack of boundaries can leave individuals feeling unsafe or unanchored, as clear limits provide kids with a sense of safety.
• Low Self-Esteem / Self-Blame: Struggling to build genuine competence or pride because they never developed mastery over delayed gratification or personal responsibility.
A good tail fixing works real good and does instill structure boundaries and discipline.
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In the real world, soft on crime / catch and release doesn't do much to make offenders better.