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people on the left believe that trump is literally running a fourth reich, that he's going to run a third term, that there is a "trans genocide", etc. they've gone totally hysterical. and they viewed charlie kirk as his general, and one of them acted accordingly

If he does or doesn't run for a third term, that doesn't change the fact that he has repeatedly made comments about doing so, sometimes while calling them "jokes." Given his history of making inflammatory statements and then hiding behind the word "joke," I don't think people are obligated to treat those statements as meaningless. Especially when he has a massive political following that can interpret those comments as signals about what is acceptable or desirable.

Trump does like to provoke weak people. It's fun. Weak people vote for weak shit. "Stop using gas, everyone should be queer, take all that money away from rich people, my body my choice ( hurry get an abortion, go go go, we'll celebrate )"

 

It also doesn't change the massive division and hostility his politics have helped create.

Your programmer speak through your trusted news sources. 

 

 

And you don't have to believe there is literally a "trans genocide" to acknowledge that anti-trans rhetoric and discriminatory policies have increased. There has been a growing effort to portray trans people as a social or political threat and to normalize hostility toward them.

Trans people are made to be hostile. Liberal lawmakers wrote laws that pass transgenders as their preference. They can do that it's fine, but it's silly to play along. Men destroying women in women's sports, men using the ladies room. There was a case where a bikini waxer refused to wax some dude's genitals and I think she was charged for discrimination. 

Men don't give a fuck if a woman enters the men's room, but women feel violated when men do. Even when we're somewhat being forced to accept "gender dysphoria".

It's also sick to give children puberty blockers and encourage them to get gender affirming surgery, which often comes with a ton of regret.  

Dragqueens dirty dancing to children. Giveng him money. 

 

Look at this one, as a homosexual you'll be aroused, 

Some of those little boys are getting a boner watching this without even knowing why. I know cause I was once a child too except I was hot for the french lady with the legs in a wine commercial. 

So yeah. There is no agenda to kill transgenders, there is an agenda to normalize adult content in kindergarten and rob women of their identity and sports. It's indecent stuff, most of us are straight, there's no reason to groom children to be queer then grow up regretting mutilating themselves cause they were told it's more fun to be glittery and fabulous. 

And while obviously not every individual Trump supporter necessarily hates trans people, I think it's equally dishonest to pretend that this is just some tiny fringe phenomenon.

What people hate are crossed boundaries. No one wants to make believe until someone changes their mind. 

Look at Legga. Transitioned 4 times. People around him had to, "Oh yes sir... you're a Mrs. now ? Okay Ms....Wait, you're a dude again ? Yes sir right away....Wait, you changed again. Yes ma'am. Today Legga is a Father again.  

Those people that follow along stupid beyond belief and lead astray. Sure they think their being nice and inclusive but what they're doing is appeasing mental illness. A disorder. It is a disorder. "I'm trapped in the wrong body" Yeah, that's a disorder.  

 

A substantial part of Trump's political coalition openly embraces anti-trans rhetoric, and the broader movement has made hostility toward trans people considerably more socially acceptable. That's what normalization means. You don't need literally every person in a political movement to hate a group for that movement to contribute to normalizing hatred of that group.

Yes, some people will resent them. What else would you expect ?

As I always said, the day a transgender dominates a men sport, it's the women who'll be beating their drums and celebrating, and you know who I mean when I say women right ? The dickless ones. 

 

So dismissing all of this as "the left being hysterical" is just as reductive as claiming that every Trump supporter is preparing for a Fourth Reich. There are exaggerated claims on the left, but that doesn't make every concern underlying those claims imaginary.

 Left is hysterical. The radical ones. You see them having tantrums, screaming into their cameras. 

The most racism toward white people, are from white people, as there are more white people in general, but it's always them. 

I'll tell you from now, when you divide people, each division has its own set of echo chambers. The left wing eco chambers are cancerous from the things they complain about and call for and cry about. It's never anything prosperous, just wanting more of what they already have to a point where they'll invade the liberties of others who don't play that.  

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I think you're conflating several different things here. Someone can disagree with specific policies concerning trans people without that automatically meaning they hate trans people. But that's not really all you're doing here. You're going considerably further than simply saying "I don't think trans women should compete in women's sports" or "I don't think this particular material is appropriate for children."

You're saying trans people are "stupid beyond belief," that people who accommodate them are "appeasing mental illness," that resentment toward them is something you should expect, and that trans people collectively are essentially a threat to women's identity and children. That's precisely the sort of general hostility I was talking about.

And no, I don't think all concern about anti-trans hostility is based on the claim that there is literally a "trans genocide." Those are separate claims. You can reject the genocide rhetoric while still acknowledging that anti-trans discrimination and hostility exist and have become more normalized.

There are literally people who have celebrated Brianna Ghey's murder because she was transgender. Her murder itself also wasn't simply some random example invented by liberals. The sentencing judge found that hostility toward Brianna because of her transgender identity was a secondary motive in the murder, and described the perpetrators' messages about her as transphobic and dehumanizing. Obviously that doesn't mean every person who criticizes transgender politics wants trans people murdered, but it makes the claim that concern about anti-trans hostility is simply left-wing hysteria rather difficult to defend.

The same distinction applies to Trump. I don't have to believe that Trump is literally establishing a Fourth Reich to think his rhetoric can be dangerous. If someone repeatedly makes comments about violating term limits and then calls them jokes, people are not irrational for taking the possibility seriously, especially when the person has a massive political following. Calling something a joke doesn't automatically make its political implications disappear.

And the fact that some people on the left make ridiculous claims doesn't establish that everything they are concerned about is ridiculous. "The left exaggerates some threats" and "there is no meaningful increase in anti-trans hostility" are completely different propositions.

As for the specific examples you listed, they should be argued individually. If you think a particular policy regarding sports is unfair to women, argue that. If you think a particular medical intervention is inappropriate for minors, argue that. If you think a particular drag performance is inappropriate for children, argue that. None of those arguments logically establish that trans people as a category deserve hostility or that hostility toward them is simply an inevitable and justified response.

That's ultimately the problem with your "crossed boundaries" explanation. A boundary violation by an individual doesn't make hostility toward an entire demographic reasonable. Otherwise you can construct the same argument against virtually any group by collecting enough examples of controversial behavior from some of its members. There are also people on the right who take legitimate disagreements over particular policies and turn them into broad contempt for an entire category of people. Both things can exist simultaneously. Pointing out one doesn't make the other disappear.

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0 votes RE: What is the role of experts in today's world?

I think you're conflating several different things here. Someone can disagree with specific policies concerning trans people without that automatically meaning they hate trans people.

There are drag queens and transgendered people I'm fine with. 

Boy George, Blair White. I know a homosexual that dressed in drag once. Found it cringe cause it wasn't pretty, but there you go. I don't like everything they're into it's not my taste, but I don't resent them, while some of them, I do. Not trying to be fair but that's fair.

And yes I make fun of them. Same with race, men, women. I'm very inclusive. It's not hatred though I do hate when boundaries are crossed.   

 

But that's not really all you're doing here. You're going considerably further than simply saying "I don't think trans women should compete in women's sports" or "I don't think this particular material is appropriate for children."

If the olympics were unisex, women wouldn't get a single medal. In sports women vs. Men. Guess who wins ?

Women are being robbed by men. I don't see any transgenders winning medals in the men's olympics. Men destroy women at sports.  

Men have larger bone density and muscle mass. We're stronger and faster. 

The announcer called it a race for 2nd place, cause they women got beat so bad.

He beat 2nd place by 7-8 seconds. Dude was halfway to the finish line before 2nd place started her final lap. 

I just showed you footage of men twerking for children. Some were half naked, some were in tights and heels spreading their legs at the spectators. That is perverted body language. Not a good look. It's not a strip club.  

 

You're saying trans people are "stupid beyond belief," that people who accommodate them are "appeasing mental illness," that resentment toward them is something you should expect, and that trans people collectively are essentially a threat to women's identity and children. That's precisely the sort of general hostility I was talking about.

I said people following the trans are stupid beyond belief. As in my last post I was pointing out how silly they are for following suit with a confused transitioner with multiple transitions.

This means, everytime a transitioner transitions, their supporters look dumb. It's pretentious. Legga's example is insane. If they guy came and said "I'm a she again" ya'll could jump and make believe  I'm staying put.  

 

And no, I don't think all concern about anti-trans hostility is based on the claim that there is literally a "trans genocide." Those are separate claims. You can reject the genocide rhetoric while still acknowledging that anti-trans discrimination and hostility exist and have become more normalized.

There's nothing special about, as you say "Anti trans hostility". White people get it more. Blacks, mexicans, straight people. Come to Canada, we're freaking out about smelly indians here. We don't have time for faggotry, we are the faggots. Fucking everyone gets hate. Plus what are trans people ? As low as 0.5% of the population. please. Acting like they even have the capacity to be hated than those who outnumber them and experience hatred all the same. 

 

There are literally people who have celebrated Brianna Ghey's murder because she was transgender.

I don't see any. Maybe if I search real hard I'll find it.

Gemini ?

Gemini said:
No, the public did not celebrate the death of Brianna Ghey. Instead, her murder in February 2023 led to widespread grief, outrage, and mass candlelight vigils across the United Kingdom in support of her family and the transgender community.

 That's great news.

Right wingers are better people.

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Her murder itself also wasn't simply some random example invented by liberals. The sentencing judge found that hostility toward Brianna because of her transgender identity was a secondary motive in the murder, and described the perpetrators' messages about her as transphobic and dehumanizing. Obviously that doesn't mean every person who criticizes transgender politics wants trans people murdered, but it makes the claim that concern about anti-trans hostility is simply left-wing hysteria rather difficult to defend.

Like your last statement, this too seems fabricated, 

 

The same distinction applies to Trump. I don't have to believe that Trump is literally establishing a Fourth Reich to think his rhetoric can be dangerous. If someone repeatedly makes comments about violating term limits and then calls them jokes, people are not irrational for taking the possibility seriously, especially when the person has a massive political following. Calling something a joke doesn't automatically make its political implications disappear.

You hate Trump because you're prompted to. Plus there are people who like drama and being a victim. Many people today are ruined. 

Fake news is real, and Trump is awesome. Trump is saying, stay out of the women's room. get out of women's sports, and the people who complain the most about those things, ARE WOMEN. LOLOLOL. Guy wake up. 

 

And the fact that some people on the left make ridiculous claims doesn't establish that everything they are concerned about is ridiculous. "The left exaggerates some threats" and "there is no meaningful increase in anti-trans hostility" are completely different propositions.

The left make the most threats, sometimes, they even shoot and kill us. This is a Charlie Kirk thread btw. 

What's the good news and policy on the left ? Is it something we can all agree on cause no one is fighting over that, what does the left has that's so good ? Make it inclusive for everyone please. And I know about the baby killings, though the majority really doesn't care much for that, while most people are pro life, and most pro lifers are women. 

 

As for the specific examples you listed, they should be argued individually.

They are responses to what you said. You're really gonna start defending evidence of fake news, and drag queens twerking for children and men destroying women at sports, and men violating women's public washrooms eh ? 

There's no way you can understand what's best.  

 

If you think a particular policy regarding sports is unfair to women, argue that. If you think a particular medical intervention is inappropriate for minors, argue that. If you think a particular drag performance is inappropriate for children, argue that. None of those arguments logically establish that trans people as a category deserve hostility or that hostility toward them is simply an inevitable and justified response.

Does it annoy you how the right is able to take shit from the left and stack it with receipts while you cannot ?

I'm showcasing facts. You're the one already crying about proof, and now there's too much proof. You can argue anything you want, though I wouldn't defend any of that with a 10 foot pole. 

 

That's ultimately the problem with your "crossed boundaries" explanation. A boundary violation by an individual doesn't make hostility toward an entire demographic reasonable.

An individual isn't the case. We cases. 

 

Otherwise you can construct the same argument against virtually any group by collecting enough examples of controversial behavior from some of its members. There are also people on the right who take legitimate disagreements over particular policies and turn them into broad contempt for an entire category of people. Both things can exist simultaneously. Pointing out one doesn't make the other disappear.

 I have contempt for weakness, and stupidity, though I have been entertained by it before under glorious conditions. 

I think God hates it too. God hates stupid people and amazingly one side is less Godly in practice and in spirit. 

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