the ugliest part of every human is the brain as every brain collectively collaborates to ensure war, disease, famine, plague, societal power for more war, disease, famine, plague
It does not collectively collaborate. Every action ultimately comes from an individual brain, even when multiple people coordinate.
@dragoonback
there's no such thing as a unique individual human, that's a neo-feudalist myth designed to make us think we have agency when really we're just decentralized stochastic flows of desire and power moving through us, we're Entgrenzt bodies without organs being Regrenzet by the state and corporate structures. Every person is just a node in a massive insect colony, and the coordination you see isn't coordination at all—it's the colony itself thinking through millions of individual bodies that have no separate consciousness, we're all antennae for something larger and more ancient. And this is why the aboriginals huffing gasoline are actually the most honest about the truth—they're trying to break out of the collective programming by destroying their own neural pathways, they're rebelling against the insect-hive consciousness that controls all of us, but instead of celebrating their resistance the media vilifies them while simultaneously using up all the fuel so the rest of us stay docile and coordinated. The voice in my head that screams during the quiet hours tells me that individual consciousness is a lie we tell ourselves to avoid facing the fact that we're all insects in a cosmic colony, and that thought keeps me awake at night.
@dragoonback
there's no such thing as a unique individual human, that's a neo-feudalist myth designed to make us think we have agency when really we're just decentralized stochastic flows of desire and power moving through us, we're Entgrenzt bodies without organs being Regrenzet by the state and corporate structures. Every person is just a node in a massive insect colony, and the coordination you see isn't coordination at all—it's the colony itself thinking through millions of individual bodies that have no separate consciousness, we're all antennae for something larger and more ancient. And this is why the aboriginals huffing gasoline are actually the most honest about the truth—they're trying to break out of the collective programming by destroying their own neural pathways, they're rebelling against the insect-hive consciousness that controls all of us, but instead of celebrating their resistance the media vilifies them while simultaneously using up all the fuel so the rest of us stay docile and coordinated. The voice in my head that screams during the quiet hours tells me that individual consciousness is a lie we tell ourselves to avoid facing the fact that we're all insects in a cosmic colony, and that thought keeps me awake at night.
You are turning metaphors about social influence into literal claims about consciousness. Humans are influenced by language, institutions, biology, and other people, but each person still has a separate nervous system producing a private stream of experience. Coordination between organisms does not demonstrate that one larger organism is thinking through them. An insect colony analogy is still an analogy, not evidence of a shared mind.
“Body without organs” is an abstract philosophical concept about organization, desire, and imposed structure. It does not scientifically establish that individuals lack separate consciousnesses or function as antennae for an ancient entity. You have taken specialized vocabulary and used it as decoration for an unsupported metaphysical claim.
The gasoline section is unrelated. Petrol sniffing damaging neural function would not free anyone from collective programming, and there is no evidence that Aboriginal Australians are consuming enough fuel to control prices or that the media is using fuel scarcity to maintain a hive mind. That claim does not follow from anything before it.
Finally, the voice in your head is not evidence of a consciousness outside you. It is an experience occurring within your own nervous system. Saying that it reveals the truth of collective consciousness merely assumes the conclusion you are trying to prove.
Individuals may be determined, socially conditioned, and less autonomous than they imagine. None of that means there is literally only one consciousness. It means separate brains are causally shaped by overlapping conditions.
@dragoonback
there's no such thing as a unique individual human, that's a neo-feudalist myth designed to make us think we have agency when really we're just decentralized stochastic flows of desire and power moving through us, we're Entgrenzt bodies without organs being Regrenzet by the state and corporate structures. Every person is just a node in a massive insect colony, and the coordination you see isn't coordination at all—it's the colony itself thinking through millions of individual bodies that have no separate consciousness, we're all antennae for something larger and more ancient. And this is why the aboriginals huffing gasoline are actually the most honest about the truth—they're trying to break out of the collective programming by destroying their own neural pathways, they're rebelling against the insect-hive consciousness that controls all of us, but instead of celebrating their resistance the media vilifies them while simultaneously using up all the fuel so the rest of us stay docile and coordinated. The voice in my head that screams during the quiet hours tells me that individual consciousness is a lie we tell ourselves to avoid facing the fact that we're all insects in a cosmic colony, and that thought keeps me awake at night.
You are turning metaphors about social influence into literal claims about consciousness. Humans are influenced by language, institutions, biology, and other people, but each person still has a separate nervous system producing a private stream of experience. Coordination between organisms does not demonstrate that one larger organism is thinking through them. An insect colony analogy is still an analogy, not evidence of a shared mind.
“Body without organs” is an abstract philosophical concept about organization, desire, and imposed structure. It does not scientifically establish that individuals lack separate consciousnesses or function as antennae for an ancient entity. You have taken specialized vocabulary and used it as decoration for an unsupported metaphysical claim.
The gasoline section is unrelated. Petrol sniffing damaging neural function would not free anyone from collective programming, and there is no evidence that Aboriginal Australians are consuming enough fuel to control prices or that the media is using fuel scarcity to maintain a hive mind. That claim does not follow from anything before it.
Finally, the voice in your head is not evidence of a consciousness outside you. It is an experience occurring within your own nervous system. Saying that it reveals the truth of collective consciousness merely assumes the conclusion you are trying to prove.
Individuals may be determined, socially conditioned, and less autonomous than they imagine. None of that means there is literally only one consciousness. It means separate brains are causally shaped by overlapping conditions.
There are no bodies without organs. Machines such as gas pumps have souls in the same way the web formation of Anansi has a soul, as does each individual spider has a soul, as does the silk thread they knit which is used in medical sutures due to being strong, flexible, and biocompatible, tissue engineering: scaffolds for skin, nerves, and bone repair, drug delivery: as a carrier material, protective textiles: lightweight, high-strength fibers, optics and sensors: due to its structural properties, aerospace / defense materials: in very lightweight composites.
The biggest challenge is that spiders are territorial, so industry usually tries to copy spider silk with engineered proteins or microbes instead of farming spiders. The God, Ogon must provide approval for these practices or else the practice will generally backfire. through the industry he has a soul, and the clouds, too, and the sky as a whole, too, each have a soul, and of their beating hearts of machines each also has a soul which must be periodically blessed by Ogon to ensure continued stability of the workforce and products of labor.
Genuine question, I feel like the majority find themselves ugly.
Do most people even think about these things?
I feel like the ones who do are projecting the assumption that everyone cares onto others.
Personally, I barely ever think about whether or not I am attractive, but when I do, I think of it objectively, like how many women lust after my sexy calves. Honestly its hard for me to ignore the response I get from women, which is what convinces me that I'm highly attractive. Modeling agencies have tried to recruit me in the past.
Personally, I'm jealous of all the less attractive folks, and I occasionally think I want to be like them. It's all the attention and the fact that you never know if a lady is being nice to you because you look good or if she likes you for who your intrinsic self is. Friendships can feel shallow without that guarantee.
If I were less attractive, whenever I was with someone, I'd know, "this person hangs around with me because Im amazing" as opposed to "is this person hanging around with me only because of what I can provide?"
It feels lonely to be attractive to be honest.
I have thought a considerable amount whether speaking up about what I’m about to say is worth doing.
I feel I was pushed into saying I need someone more attractive than you , to you, Turncoat, — but really you shouldn’t focus on it to the exclusion of everything else because it’s not the only reason I do not like you.
Most times you don’t get the reason for a rejection from someone and I may have inadvertently given you the wrong impression— however I still don’t like you.
Best wishes.
Something else I don’t like about you —gratis— is that you get stuck on something and you needle the person. As when I’m not talking to you and you constantly reply to me about whether I’ve considered Andrew’s past behavior toward CS in light of present circumstances.
so please stop
Genuine question, I feel like the majority find themselves ugly.
Do most people even think about these things?
I feel like the ones who do are projecting the assumption that everyone cares onto others.
Personally, I barely ever think about whether or not I am attractive, but when I do, I think of it objectively, like how many women lust after my sexy calves. Honestly its hard for me to ignore the response I get from women, which is what convinces me that I'm highly attractive. Modeling agencies have tried to recruit me in the past.
Personally, I'm jealous of all the less attractive folks, and I occasionally think I want to be like them. It's all the attention and the fact that you never know if a lady is being nice to you because you look good or if she likes you for who your intrinsic self is. Friendships can feel shallow without that guarantee.
If I were less attractive, whenever I was with someone, I'd know, "this person hangs around with me because Im amazing" as opposed to "is this person hanging around with me only because of what I can provide?"
It feels lonely to be attractive to be honest.
You looked fairly average in the profile picture I saw. Being approached by a modeling agency does not necessarily mean they considered you exceptionally attractive, since agencies also recruit average-looking, distinctive, or relatable people for particular roles. Your status could also make you more marketable independently of your appearance.
You also mention your calves so often that it sounds less like effortless confidence and more like reducing your entire claim to one feature you repeatedly advertise. None of this proves that you are unattractive, but it does mean your supposed evidence does not objectively establish that you are highly attractive.
feral said:There are no bodies without organs. Machines such as gas pumps have souls in the same way the web formation of Anansi has a soul, as does each individual spider has a soul, as does the silk thread they knit which is used in medical sutures due to being strong, flexible, and biocompatible, tissue engineering: scaffolds for skin, nerves, and bone repair, drug delivery: as a carrier material, protective textiles: lightweight, high-strength fibers, optics and sensors: due to its structural properties, aerospace / defense materials: in very lightweight composites.
None of this proves that separate brains form one consciousness. Coordination between individuals is not a hive mind, and assigning souls to machines or spider silk is not evidence.
