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Am I actually an idiot?


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I've thought about this a lot lately.

I always used to think that I'm really smart. I wasnt particularly proud of it, but it's something I notice. 

I excel at math, I tend to pick up on everything, I listen very carefully, I was the youngest faculty hire in recent history, my PhD was completed in record time, and I started my research before I got to University.

However, lately I've been wondering if what Spatial said is correct and I really lack some sort of fundamental sense that everyone else has.

It's true; I don't have the same sense of shame as normal people do after I trained it away, I tend to be hyper focused and I can keep my attention for much longer than anyone in the room I've ever met, save for one Spanish girl who drained me of my mental energy with constant questions in a conference few months back, and I don't feel as genuine as those around me. I also believe I am very hyper aware, like, I know perfectly what kind of picture I'm painting of myself by writing this post, and I tend to tailor to that view.

The question I've been thinking about is whether or not I really am actually an idiot. It would be such a blissful self-realisation because frankly I'd have so many more things to learn from those around me. I learn many things from you all, but just not very intellectual things, because I feel like intellectually I'm vastly superior.

But I've been giving it serious thought. If I were really delusional and I wasnt actually that smart, then how could I find out? I thought that I could find out if I challenged a smart person, e.g., spatial to a test of intellects, I'd be able to find out by being defeated. However, since he refused, and claimed that by refusing he actually won, I tend to think that rather than being motivated by the belief that I'm an idiot he was motivated by insecurity over me believing I am smarter than him.

I don't know why people feel insecure about it. Why can I not be smart without people feeling offended over it? Maybe that's the sense I lack, I dont take pride.

I think the reason I'm objectively intelligent is because I keep testing the hypothesis over and over again, and I always seem to prove myself to be smart. Isn't that objective?

last edit on 6/12/2026 1:10:01 PM
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You know my dad was a PhD in physics wanted to be a theoretician - and JD and his brother was two time Harvard, so I may take the usual bias, but the kind of people I have wondered about recently having a certain kind of cunning are in tech sales. I wouldn’t have given sales a second thought but it takes a certain kind of intelligence to overcome objections, and repeatedly, down to a science and these people close 6-7 figure deals. I’d like to make a study of how they do it.

Do you think you have THAT kind of intelligence?

For example, a simple exercise is “sell me this pen”. I have never (not yet) formally learned how to do it.

I don’t know I think I would say something like “a famous person XYZ uses this exact type pen”. That’s all I got.

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Is anything objective in a temporary universe? The more you try to beat out answers the more emptiness comes to fill that hole. 

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Am I actually an idiot?

Yes, but being meticulous helps with hiding it. 

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Do you think you have THAT kind of intelligence?

Sales intelligence?

Yes, probably. What do I need to do to prove it? 

Im very anti-stingy and Ive helped many people financially. I'm not sure if I could sell something that I thought wasnt worth it, because I'd feel guilty over being deceptive. I'm very good at selling things that I think are worth it, though, including myself.

 

For example, a simple exercise is “sell me this pen”. I have never (not yet) formally learned how to do it.

Lol. 

Do you need a pen?

 

I don’t know I think I would say something like “a famous person XYZ uses this exact type pen”. That’s all I got.

That's hilarious.

@Spatial would you like to try to sell me the pen "ofvalue" is talking about? See if you can prove how intelligent you are.

Or we can try to both sell it to someone neutral, like Turncoat. He then chooses whose pen he will buy. Deal?

 

Am I actually an idiot?

Yes, but being meticulous helps with hiding it. 

Why would I hide it? If I'm an idiot I want the world to know. 

My wife jokes that my workplace hasn't found out my true nature yet. 

 

Is anything objective in a temporary universe? The more you try to beat out answers the more emptiness comes to fill that hole.

I kept wondering about that but, you know, at the end of the day, I accept plenty of things as objective. No amount of philosophizing is going to truly convince me that I'm a brain in a vat. When it actually comes down to it, my own nature and true beliefs prevent me from "actually" believing that nothing is objective. The whole thing is a game. Once Hitler comes with gestapo theres zero chance you're going to hold on to your belief, because really nobody truly believes it.

When people say objective, you understand what they mean, no?

last edit on 6/13/2026 4:19:54 PM
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Turncoat, if I sell you my pen, what do I get in return?

last edit on 6/13/2026 4:11:50 PM
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