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Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Thanks for the self demonstration. 

 I see. 

So more men should perform penile injections in the anusus of other men leading to depopulation and extinction, and it'll all seem less cringe ?

Right right right. I read you. 

If cringe got me hard you'd be doing it so much for me right now. 

You should be less vague. Ah. I just said what you should do. Sorry for the mansplination, but y'know, I just might be onto something. 

The cringe has been going on for quite awhile and you're just bringing it up now, so I figured you were reevaluating your perspective on life and placing less value in dysfunction.  

Buttered Toast said: 

Turncoat said: 

Buttered Toast said: 

I'm going to be real: questioning this and not already understanding it, is kind of cringe.

Acting like it's a nonissue is cringe. 

Perhaps I was being too philosophical in thinking about what you posted, because I was asking myself "what's the issue?"  My mind was focused on how cringe is a cultural meme of a sort, classifying certain things on a scale of "second-hand embarrassment".  Some object of interest or fixation of someone that (usually) a third party considers somehow disgraceful, pitiable, or otherwise lame, and exhibit some shame or embarrassment on that person's behalf.  Perhaps a side-effect of empathy, triggering one's own preferences along the same pathways of distaste or even disgust.  And then that boils down to social dynamics, cultural norms, and one's own frame of mind, as to how one reacts to what they see as cringeworthy.  All that stuff about perspective and how one's attention is used to color that perspective; stuff I was sure you're quite aware of already.

Cringe. 

Turncoat said: 

Starting to feel like everything is cringe. 

Like, everything. 

So the issue is your feeling of everything being cringe.

It's uncomfortable and makes it harder to enjoy things, yes. 

I feel like the learning curve, moreso, is that I need to develop more cringe tolerance so that I can see past the pre-appearance of it. A lot of seemingly cringe things can be enjoyable once past the surface layer, like anime for example, and past a point I'm basically making myself the odd one out by looking at it like it's otherwise 'lame' overall rather than as a matter of case-by-case tastes. 

Emotions are intuitive and serve as indicators. If something is cringy, avoid it instead of filling up your head with garbage. 

Tolerance. It's good when beneficial, but increase it for something like cringe will mean you're willing to fill your head with more shit than it already has for the sake of enjoyment. You can say evil loves tolerance, because it allows controversy. 

Personally I think pride is eating you alive. Too much swapping good for bad and bad for good with no motivation to change will have you cringing at what maintains piece of mind. 

Here's what to do....

Put out an ad to be a personal tour guide for LGBTQ people.....

They will contact you, and when they come to the city you will suggest places and things for them to do. You are street smart, and you can take them to the gay bars or events and places. Fine dining etc. If you get good at this, you can make deals with restaurants and get some kind of kickback for every soul you bring, or, discount your clients.

Accommodate their requests or they'll leave it up to you. They may tell you what they want to see or experience or you can plan out a course of what your city offers. And of course you get paid. For you I would recommend cash payment, but that doesn't always work out when it comes to these things. A crypto option is good, accept only BTC, ETC and any stablecoin such as USDT and USDC. Your job is to keep them safe as well, not as a security guard but as someone who will show them a good time out of harm's way. It's why they'll be contacting you in the first place. 

You know your city, you know what it has to offer. 

Better if you have a car, but this guy I know who is a homosexual and does this doesn't even drive. 

Why does this work for LGBTQ people specifically ?

You do any kind of business with gay people, and they will show up. Your phone might even be ringing off the hook. They like to take part in things that makes them visible, go to places where everyone is expected to be gay.

You don't have much, so when you bring them to places to dine, you'll wait outside. If they invite you to join them tell them you have a lot of debt. That way you'll either wait outside, or they'll feed you too. When you do have money, get something cheap, plus if the venue knows you and sees what you're doing, they'll make sure you're eating for cheap. Even if a place doesn't want to do business with you, let them know what you're doing and they'll begin to respect you.

You'll begin to feel good about yourself. You'll have clients, and meet a lot of homos. Some will want to be your friend. You might even find love. You'll become valued by local businesses and they will call you, Nathan. 

Find your price, but know who you're up against and match their pricing. 3 digits max. For $700 you can feed and transport them. Movie or some gallery or place. and keep the rest. You do not pay for hotels, unless they want that deal, it'll be a lot more, though that's something they can do on their own. You will handle the Uber. Know your local museum or art gallery. via the internet. Answer their questions, so only show them things you know well. Entertain them with stories that happened. Learn about the ghost stories, spooking them once will only make the day delightful no matter if it creeps them out or not. 

If you get a client that wants you to guide a bus load of people. Take it. That is a jackpot. You will then rent a bus with a driver.  Maybe for 500 to 800 a day. You wouldn't have the mindset for this, unless you did the smaller tours first.

So you see Nathan. All you need is a piece of mind. A reason to give yourself a pat on the back. Don't worry if it will make you rich, just focus on the experience. After awhile you can do more daring things that might cost more, you'll have the cash to patch it up if need be, but when you do that, just mention you'll take it off of your commission. You'll score a positive review.   

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I once worked in this building and down the hall there was a guy who had a dying photography business. He converted his office into a gallery of photos in frames and sold them for a high price as though he were selling paintings.

He would have themed events and it was nothing. Space, the ocean, science fiction. 

He then did a gay event where his photography was geared toward queer people. Boom

The place was so loaded, there was a large crowd of gay people mingling and having a lovely time in the front of the building while his gallery was loaded to the brim. I said large crowd and they were chirping like birds. Not only does the LGBTQ show up, but they show off by spending money. 

Put out an ad to be a personal tour guide for LGBTQ people.....

They will contact you, and when they come to the city you will suggest places and things for them to do. You are street smart, and you can take them to the gay bars or events and places. Fine dining etc. If you get good at this, you can make deals with restaurants and get some kind of kickback for every soul you bring, or, discount your clients.

Accommodate their requests or they'll leave it up to you. They may tell you what they want to see or experience or you can plan out a course of what your city offers. And of course you get paid. For you I would recommend cash payment, but that doesn't always work out when it comes to these things. A crypto option is good, accept only BTC, ETC and any stablecoin such as USDT and USDC. Your job is to keep them safe as well, not as a security guard but as someone who will show them a good time out of harm's way. It's why they'll be contacting you in the first place.

You know your city, you know what it has to offer.

Better if you have a car, but this guy I know who is a homosexual and does this doesn't even drive.

Why does this work for LGBTQ people specifically ?

You do any kind of business with gay people, and they will show up. Your phone might even be ringing off the hook. They like to take part in things that makes them visible, go to places where everyone is expected to be gay.

You don't have much, so when you bring them to places to dine, you'll wait outside. If they invite you to join them tell them you have a lot of debt. That way you'll either wait outside, or they'll feed you too. When you do have money, get something cheap, plus if the venue knows you and sees what you're doing, they'll make sure you're eating for cheap. Even if a place doesn't want to do business with you, let them know what you're doing and they'll begin to respect you.

I wonder if there are that many wealthy LGBT tourists that go to Columbus Ohio to learn about the local culture and gay bars and intend to pay a local to take them around.

When I went to Ohio for vacation, the first thing almost every local expressed is confusion over why Im choosing to go to Ohio for a vacation, so Im inferring from that that its not as popular as the NY Broadway or something.

I asked everyone where I could find a pub where I could get wasted and do mechanical bull riding. The first bar I was pointed to apparently banned black people from entering, while the second place had their mechanical bull decommissioned because someone slammed their face against the bull and sued the bar. So they directed me to go to Texas instead.

I love the Midwest, the people are the most hospitable in the world in my humble opinion, one lady even invited me to a dinner at their family's after a bus stop conversation, but Im not sure how profitable local tours are unless youre in a high end cultural destination or a busy area like New York.

Otherwise, making local knowledge a business is a fantastic idea.

Turncoat said: 

It's uncomfortable and makes it harder to enjoy things, yes. 

I feel like the learning curve, moreso, is that I need to develop more cringe tolerance so that I can see past the pre-appearance of it. A lot of seemingly cringe things can be enjoyable once past the surface layer, like anime for example, and past a point I'm basically making myself the odd one out by looking at it like it's otherwise 'lame' overall rather than as a matter of case-by-case tastes. 

 It seems to me that most people find that sweet spot and don't overthink their "thing".  Their cringe blindspot is often their own little sliver of cringe they accept as interesting and worth any social alienation.  I don't know how much others care about others' cringe, than to note it when they encounter it.

It seems to me that this process of "everything being cringe" would be most noticeable when you are feeling cringe for your own set of interests and activities.  (Of course, because that's what "everything" entails, right?)  Some reductionist algorithm of thought is taking the fun out of things.

You might be on the right track.  Finding everything becoming cringe could be a gateway of knowing nothing is really cringe except from our own perception, accepting whatever cringe you find in yourself, and reframing things consciously with the balance of understanding...  Letting it go.  You will have to become cringe and enjoy it (a little).

Or not, I guess.

On topic, doesnt it depends on how you see cringe? If youre shameless, you dont feel cringe. 

Destroying your own reputation in my humble opinion is a form of art. 

Its not the act of destroying your own reputation that is the topic of art, but the liberation. By being cringe, you can be free of societal expectations. 

Imagine someone gathering a high effort spectacle in front of a flash mob to propose or ask girl to a prom only for the girl to go on stage and say "no", while the dancers need to finish their upbeat performance in total silence. If you do stuff like that, I'm honestly deeply jealous of you, and in my opinion you're a true artist.

Honestly the only way I see you can be cured is by doing something extremely cringey here publicly. 

That way you reset your meter.

Spatial Mind said: 

Emotions are intuitive and serve as indicators. If something is cringy, avoid it instead of filling up your head with garbage. 

If I did that I'd never get out of bed. 

I'd say it's not an indicator when enough times I've been made to do the cringy thing and then later turned out to be a fan. This is more like some sort of... post-hipster urgency that gets in the way of trying new things. 

Tolerance. It's good when beneficial, but increase it for something like cringe will mean you're willing to fill your head with more shit than it already has for the sake of enjoyment. You can say evil loves tolerance, because it allows controversy. 

Is... controversy a bad thing inherently? 

I'd assume a world without it would be worse overall. 

Put out an ad to be a personal tour guide for LGBTQ people.....

I'd be better off being an LGBTQ counselor of some sort if I'm going that route, or something related to paraphilias. I've already been helpful in those ways for free at least. 

 So you see Nathan. All you need is a piece of mind.

Rather than a whole one? 😏

I once worked in this building and down the hall there was a guy who had a dying photography business. He converted his office into a gallery of photos in frames and sold them for a high price as though he were selling paintings.

He would have themed events and it was nothing. Space, the ocean, science fiction. 

He then did a gay event where his photography was geared toward queer people. Boom

The place was so loaded, there was a large crowd of gay people mingling and having a lovely time in the front of the building while his gallery was loaded to the brim. I said large crowd and they were chirping like birds. Not only does the LGBTQ show up, but they show off by spending money. 

So you're... actually arguing in favor of the LGBTQ as a representation of financial autonomy, growth, and success? 

Why wouldn't this apply equally to straight people? They both like art, and photography's a fine form of it. 

Buttered Toast said: 

Turncoat said: 

It's uncomfortable and makes it harder to enjoy things, yes. 

I feel like the learning curve, moreso, is that I need to develop more cringe tolerance so that I can see past the pre-appearance of it. A lot of seemingly cringe things can be enjoyable once past the surface layer, like anime for example, and past a point I'm basically making myself the odd one out by looking at it like it's otherwise 'lame' overall rather than as a matter of case-by-case tastes. 

It seems to me that most people find that sweet spot and don't overthink their "thing". 

I guess I get that out of B-Movies. 

I guess to illustrate an example: Improv Comedy, or Musicals as a genre. As a thespian I've seen more than my fair share of it, and it's cringy as fuck, but with how the audience seems into it it has me reflect on how I'm effectively depriving myself of something others find enjoyable purely because I find it cringe. 

It seems to me that this process of "everything being cringe" would be most noticeable when you are feeling cringe for your own set of interests and activities. 

...that would make sense, but no I get cringe more before I am otherwise an active participant of it. 

For personal cringe, when led around a convention on a leash for example, the hardest part was going out the door like that. For cringe-by-association, I can cringe pretty hard when they go the whole nine yards and wear a leather dog mask or some shit. 

You might be on the right track.  Finding everything becoming cringe could be a gateway of knowing nothing is really cringe except from our own perception, accepting whatever cringe you find in yourself, and reframing things consciously with the balance of understanding...  Letting it go.  You will have to become cringe and enjoy it (a little).

Exactly, I must embrace the cringe or I will be missing out on that much more of life. 

Jada said: 

On topic, doesnt it depends on how you see cringe? If youre shameless, you dont feel cringe. 

Destroying your own reputation in my humble opinion is a form of art. 

Self awareness of the art tends to make it more cringe via said self-awareness of the medium making the cringe change flavor. 

It's like B-Movies in real life; the best ones are done naturally, seemingly on accident or as a reflection of one's hubris. We can see the likes of this through the works of Tommy Wiseau. 

By contrast, my hubris stops that from happening. 

Its not the act of destroying your own reputation that is the topic of art, but the liberation. By being cringe, you can be free of societal expectations. 

But being discerning of what is and isn't cringe is 'how to be cool'. 🤣

It sounds ridiculous but that's the more primal thought process. Past a point I'd just be sitting there silently in wasteful meditation while others enjoy life if I let that take it's course. 

To be without cringe in my life, is cringe. 

Imagine someone gathering a high effort spectacle in front of a flash mob to propose or ask girl to a prom only for the girl to go on stage and say "no", while the dancers need to finish their upbeat performance in total silence. If you do stuff like that, I'm honestly deeply jealous of you, and in my opinion you're a true artist.

I did theater, but that's way more artificial. I learned scripts and songs and then had to perform the same repetition. 

It's significantly easier than doing a formal presentation in front of a small group of your peers, let alone being bold enough to do something that risky.