Message Turncoat in a DM to get moderator attention

Users Online(? lurkers):
10 / 41 posts
Posts: 33859
0 votes RE: Turncoat do you remember this?

my point is this: I think you guys talk past each other sometimes.

No dude, I read what he's said. If I didn't it wouldn't be so frustrating, and he is incapable of absorbing information that doesn't fit the preconcieved narrative even after years of trying to sort it out. His POV is that there is only one truth, that he knows this truth, and that others inherently know it too if they aren't either stupid or misled by lies, so there's no room to really fix the bind he's put himself in via old wounds and ego appeasement. 

Again he has outright lost friends over this shit by dragging the attacks to them, even going at them like I did something for people I didn't even talk to about it. It keeps being 'all my fault' for this dude and he struggles to drop the mindset. In the same light he can't accept any form of accusation towards him which makes it difficult to discuss how he's acting. 

He'd need medication at this point, I've had more luck with blatantly disordered people when it comes to discussion. I understand how mania can black shit out but he doesn't take any accountability for his outbursts over how he claims it's yet more lies, then I link him that shit again and he goes off the handle. 

He literally can't handle the truth, even enough to be adjacent to it as another person's POV. Attempting to explain to him what 'personal truth' means confuses him a lot too, he is stunted in this area in ways most people aren't. When other people say their version he's more than once accused them of being manipulated by me, he has an excuse for every time he ends up wrong and as he keeps needing more of them he gets more hyper and weird. 

Like his general analysis was correct, but he comes in with an incendiary accusation. I'll verbalize a rejection of that, because my ability to recall timelines can be spotty, not bad for vibes at all, and I'd 100% remember if you did that.

But also sometimes times it feels like you aren't arguing with the general argument he presents. 

More like I am not arguing with the SAME general argument he presents. When we talk about other shit like spirits and politics it goes fine, we get points across and my time feels genuinely well spent over how much he can serve to teach me things via his perspective within the right wing and his idea of religion. 

It's when it gets to his weird conspiratorial coping mechanisms that there's nothing left to say on my end. Others at this point have expressed that there's no reason for me to continue engaging with him over it too, it's not even just me seeing it and my engaging in it ends up having people pity him like he's being bullied, which helps remove the sting a little over letting him keep saying weird shit but is also super annoying. 

The correct answer is to let him stew over his weird conspiracies, others grew tired of it before I did and it's about time I take the hint. 

Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
last edit on 5/25/2025 6:21:31 PM
Posts: 496
0 votes RE: Turncoat do you remember this?

As much as I disagree with turncoat on a political level I seriously doubt he would ever post any CP and if he did he must've been a much more immature person at the time. He doesn't seem like the type of person to actually post anything like that. Despite being a self proclaimed transgender. He doesn't give that cognitive / personality type profile to be that type of person. Their usually either very immature(teens posting cp on 4chan) or have something very wrong with their brain/cognition/personality if we're not talking about it from a maturity perspective.

Either way I always took nathan for someone to strictly adhere to certain types of rules even if he does moderate a site called sociopath community and is a transgender. 

 

last edit on 5/25/2025 6:30:19 PM
Posts: 546
0 votes RE: Turncoat do you remember this?

i doubt TC posted CP, but i can say beyond any doubt that TC defended jim relentlessly and often and faught tooth and nail against me banning jim after jim demonstrated over and over and over that he would post child pornography whenever he felt like it.

I think TC enjoyed that Jim posted child pornography becasue it gave me a reason to need to create a mod.

the old timers will recall when i originally created the forum the goal was to have no mods

what i regret most is that my SC was dynamic and changing and I was always trying new things to grow and advertise this place... becasue of TC's actions he has doomed the entire community to stagnate in this unchanging knock-off of my original design. but ultimately it was me who deleted my forum, not TC. all tc did was sit in his apartment and post and he's never stopped regardless of the fact he's never made a dime off any of this.

he's 34,000 posts in at this point. In a way my making that mentally ill child a mod ruined his life and turned him into a life-long neet who's entire being is centered around my creation

Posts: 4643
0 votes RE: Turncoat do you remember this?

Well TC, I think there might be more merit to Spatial and his perspective than is immediately obvious. This is a guy who went from doing 3D modeling to figuring out how to make a fortune by investing in crypto mining farms. And has repeatedly told people on the forum how to make money with what trades. Not exactly low IQ.

And I understand you guys have a very fraught relationship with difficult communication, but sometimes he points out some accurate observations here. I've seen him make great points where I felt you didn't listen. I've also disagreed with him a lot myself. You're more the type to have all kinds of information in a web in which you have collected. Which makes it difficult for him to argue with you when you have all of these "facts" lined up. None of us really archive shit for arguments later on.

I still think that doesn't mean that the sentiment he expressed in this thread was wrong. But he is guilty of doing stuff like accusing you of the CP thing, which sets you off. Don't really blame you when there are malicious distortions or mis-remembrings.

And Luna kind of has a point too, you made friends with someone who straight up says he's a pedo, but also judge Luna for racist posts on Reddit.

Although I don't think TC's actions stagnated the place. We would bring new people in, but there was no appeal. The problem was that it wasn't a welcoming place, very niche sort of audience with no easy ramp to integration.

last edit on 5/26/2025 6:05:25 AM
Posts: 4642
0 votes RE: Turncoat do you remember this?

If SC was meant to be some melting pot of activity, perhaps its name should have been rethought.  Otherwise, its destiny was always to be a bug light to...the people we found here.  So save this "ramp to integration" bullshit. XD

Thrall to the Wire of Self-Excited Circuit.
last edit on 5/26/2025 10:24:08 AM
Posts: 33859
0 votes RE: Turncoat do you remember this?

Well TC, I think there might be more merit to Spatial and his perspective than is immediately obvious. This is a guy who went from doing 3D modeling to figuring out how to make a fortune by investing in crypto mining farms. And has repeatedly told people on the forum how to make money with what trades. Not exactly low IQ.

This has nothing to do with social skills and processing, and from the tone of the rest of your post I can't help but feel you missed the point being made. 

And I understand you guys have a very fraught relationship with difficult communication, but sometimes he points out some accurate observations here. I've seen him make great points where I felt you didn't listen. I've also disagreed with him a lot myself. You're more the type to have all kinds of information in a web in which you have collected. Which makes it difficult for him to argue with you when you have all of these "facts" lined up. None of us really archive shit for arguments later on.

I still think that doesn't mean that the sentiment he expressed in this thread was wrong. But he is guilty of doing stuff like accusing you of the CP thing, which sets you off. Don't really blame you when there are malicious distortions or mis-remembrings.

And Luna kind of has a point too, you made friends with someone who straight up says he's a pedo, but also judge Luna for racist posts on Reddit.

Although I don't think TC's actions stagnated the place. We would bring new people in, but there was no appeal. The problem was that it wasn't a welcoming place, very niche sort of audience with no easy ramp to integration.

Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
Posts: 3279
0 votes RE: Turncoat do you remember this?

And I understand you guys have a very fraught relationship with difficult communication, but sometimes he points out some accurate observations here. I've seen him make great points where I felt you didn't listen. I've also disagreed with him a lot myself. You're more the type to have all kinds of information in a web in which you have collected. Which makes it difficult for him to argue with you when you have all of these "facts" lined up. None of us really archive shit for arguments later on.

I have some facts Tryptamine.

Just to get it out of the way, what annoys me about these episodes is how Nathan constantly does this history swap of what we've done in the past.

I'll ask you directly Trypt. And you might have a difficult time answering this, but do you honestly recall me to be the one to dox and harass people on SC like Nathan claims ?

It would be a very dumb thing to do while I myself am the 1st doxxed and harassed over the years, SC member. You saw that. Like damn, someone so vulnerable to attack really has no place doxxing and harassing others. 

I did console people who were doxxed, including Dexter, Pink, Dragonboy, and a list of others.

And then watch this, first page alone. Watch him squirm when questioned by OG members about his claim. 

List of users doxxed by Golden Eagle

^ Not a single soul. Though there is a claim I doxxed Jim, it's actually laughable isn't it ?

.

.

.

As for Luna's SC. Nathan's was never doxxed on there. His image nor his name. ( This is his new claim )

Nathan's dox is something that happened through discord. Personally his name was passed on to me by someone, and, all of the image of Nathan that I have are all images he posted on this forum. I'm pretty sure I reacted to his images on that thread I cannot find now. 

 

I still think that doesn't mean that the sentiment he expressed in this thread was wrong. But he is guilty of doing stuff like accusing you of the CP thing, which sets you off. Don't really blame you when there are malicious distortions or mis-remembrings.

I never accused him of posting CP, I said it wouldn't have surprised me, and I gave reasons. Simply because he wanted to preserve a standard for pedophiles for this forum give them a space. He also questioned why CP was a bad thing. Luna also suggests he defended Jim and Cawk when it was time for them to go. 

tbh I think he did, that's just an opinion. 

 

And Luna kind of has a point too, you made friends with someone who straight up says he's a pedo, but also judge Luna for racist posts on Reddit.

Yes, true.

Although I don't think TC's actions stagnated the place. We would bring new people in, but there was no appeal. The problem was that it wasn't a welcoming place, very niche sort of audience with no easy ramp to integration.

 I reckon he played a big role in pushing Luna over the edge.

Y'know, Nathan actually apologized to me about his episode. If you remember that time my family was being doxxed, children in my family were being doxxed, businesses, everyone with my name in a phonebook was being doxxed. Everyday for 3 whole months, it was him. 

I did forgive Nathan, and even vouched for him to be a mod on this forum. All that really did was certify how much of a scumbag he is. When someone newer like Adolf visited for forum, "who do you think" would supply him with my images ?

In any case I'm used to shit like that, only thing is, I'm not going to let Nathan get away with swapping my history with his. 

And to be Frank, Nathan does make fools of many. This thread wasn't created by me, and the content in the OP alone speaks for itself. 

I remain consistent and my claims never changed.

The girl in the video, her name is Taylor and I don't think she deserves to be a lolcow

Posts: 33859
0 votes RE: Turncoat do you remember this?

Once again dude can't keep his story straight, then links a topic that just shows me being annoyed about it as if it proves something. There's countless examples of him and I talking and he picks one that has me unwilling to participate as the subject of it mutates by page two. 

He goes into the 'it never happened' spirals, except for the cases where I don't feel like playing out his weird fantasies. He acts straight retarded, blacks it out, and then acts like it's weird that people don't want to talk to him anymore if not otherwise learn to take him less seriously (plural, not just me)

For him it's easier for him to look at that rather than the times he got triggered over weird shit, and easier to look at that then the times where people stopped being his friend because of it. There are numerous topics where I've taken the bait and repeatedly triggered Spatial because of it, and now that I won't do it he's stuck begging for it, at points even claiming the data doesn't exist when it's been linked to him repeatedly.

After all that's happened to the poor guy, even with them understanding the situation, enough people asked me to stop bullying him over how blatantly disordered he is and, frankly, now I share their view. The hardest part is not responding to it. 

As for Luna's SC. Nathan's was never doxxed on there. His image nor his name. ( This is his new claim )

Nathan's dox is something that happened through discord. Personally his name was passed on to me by someone, and, all of the image of Nathan that I have are all images he posted on this forum. I'm pretty sure I reacted to his images on that thread I cannot find now. 

Wow, you have heavily reinvented the story on multiple fronts now. You were straight up there cheering it be kept up, I saw you. 

Enough people know the true story without my intervention, I'm not taking the bait. Even those responsible for some of it have since apologized and we've moved on. 

Although I don't think TC's actions stagnated the place. We would bring new people in, but there was no appeal. The problem was that it wasn't a welcoming place, very niche sort of audience with no easy ramp to integration.

 I reckon he played a big role in pushing Luna over the edge.

Y'know, Nathan actually apologized to me about his episode.

I apologized for what actually happened, not your weird mutated version of it. 

I guess you forgot about the time we discussed this and sorted out that other users were fucking with you at the same time, again. 

If you remember that time my family was being doxxed, children in my family were being doxxed, businesses, everyone with my name in a phonebook was being doxxed. Everyday for 3 whole months, it was him. 

Untrue, but whatever dude keep living in a fantasy land. 


Spatial was posting the names of members of Jim's family and their social media links in the chat, so in return the first name of one family member, from a photo he posted, was made into the subject of ridicule. He sat there in the topic trying to talk about how it's totally fine to have the name said, the guy does drop first names like it's a habit, yet when even one person he knows has their first name said he deletes the topic and claims he didn't, in spite of it being in the logs that were public to everyone back then. 

Total hypocrite, and somehow as he gets older he's getting worse about it. It was one topic, it was deleted, the joke stopped right after. 

The apology was over doing something he himself sees nothing wrong with doing, apparently, and somehow overtime the context of what that apology was for has mutated. I felt bad about referencing a dude's first name and otherwise pressure cooking him when he was trying to do his job, that's it. 


Main Point; Arguing with someone who can change the story when it suits him stands to go nowhere. If people want to talk about it we can talk in PMs or even DMs, but doing it here is just going to trigger the guy which will further bait more of something both of us by the end of it hate. Enough people know the story, and for my own peace of mind I have to let it go that he will never, ever, get it right. 


Edit: omg his second link is over him repeatedly trying to say the person's name he claims to be so concerned over, what a fucking mental case lol. 

Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
last edit on 5/27/2025 8:28:13 AM
Posts: 3279
0 votes RE: Turncoat do you remember this?

I don't know Jim's family, no one really does and no one is all that interested in them. Jim also doxxed his own sister, lest  I'm a super detective hacker able to find anyone.

It would've been counter productive to provoke Jim while banning his CP spam with you and Cawk, multiple times a day with 4 other mods. It doesn't add up therefore the lie that I doxxed his Family is very dumb. 

The one who spent 3 months doxxing my family, claims I did that. To Jim. 

.

Let it be clear, that " there is no name to any member doxxing TC in Luna's forum ". And no name will surface because, no member doxxed TC on Luna's platform.

It's actually unclear who doxxed TC in discord, though I'm guessing he shared his image with some SC chick (while he was still with Crow) and the SC chick forked him over.

Maybe it never happened like that, maybe it did. Guy got doxxed while Crow was there with him. I imagine Nate's antics put her off, cause look at him now, just a hunch.

TC's dox was subtle. No socks coming out making fun of him, none of that. All it did was bring calm. 

Every image I collected of TC are from a set of black and white images he posted himself in this forum while no image surfaced at Luna's, by anyone.

Had TC been doxxed at Luna's, that would've been the main course. A grand spectacle too big not to take any credit for and no one would've missed it. It never happened.

What really motivated Nathan was him being fired for being a treasonous piece of shit. He had a manic episode as he admitted to me and he couldn't stop until Luna's forum was destroyed. 

I accepted his apology and moved on from it. Vouched for him to be a mod here while I was the front runner for being a mod here and he got it. Now here we are, him claiming he was me, sharing strength for the doxxed and I'm him, running around doxxing up people.

.

.

.

There is only the truth. Nate believes in personal truth so he'll argue there's his truth and mine. I'd argue there is no such thing as personal truth, that's how thing's get fucked up and deluded. This encounter is simply one fencing with the truth, as the truth always pushes it's way to the surface.

The stuff TC says in this regard, no offence, are to fool noobs who weren't even there. Not a single live witness backed TC's false claims, while I've been backed by members as shown here. The fooled are made into fools and that in itself is disrespect.

 

 

Posts: 546
0 votes RE: Turncoat do you remember this?

spatial are you still holding btc?

hire me i am poor 

10 / 41 posts
This site contains NSFW material. To view and use this site, you must be 18+ years of age.