my point is this: I think you guys talk past each other sometimes.
No dude, I read what he's said. If I didn't it wouldn't be so frustrating, and he is incapable of absorbing information that doesn't fit the preconcieved narrative even after years of trying to sort it out. His POV is that there is only one truth, that he knows this truth, and that others inherently know it too if they aren't either stupid or misled by lies, so there's no room to really fix the bind he's put himself in via old wounds and ego appeasement.
Again he has outright lost friends over this shit by dragging the attacks to them, even going at them like I did something for people I didn't even talk to about it. It keeps being 'all my fault' for this dude and he struggles to drop the mindset. In the same light he can't accept any form of accusation towards him which makes it difficult to discuss how he's acting.
He'd need medication at this point, I've had more luck with blatantly disordered people when it comes to discussion. I understand how mania can black shit out but he doesn't take any accountability for his outbursts over how he claims it's yet more lies, then I link him that shit again and he goes off the handle.
He literally can't handle the truth, even enough to be adjacent to it as another person's POV. Attempting to explain to him what 'personal truth' means confuses him a lot too, he is stunted in this area in ways most people aren't. When other people say their version he's more than once accused them of being manipulated by me, he has an excuse for every time he ends up wrong and as he keeps needing more of them he gets more hyper and weird.
Like his general analysis was correct, but he comes in with an incendiary accusation. I'll verbalize a rejection of that, because my ability to recall timelines can be spotty, not bad for vibes at all, and I'd 100% remember if you did that.
But also sometimes times it feels like you aren't arguing with the general argument he presents.
More like I am not arguing with the SAME general argument he presents. When we talk about other shit like spirits and politics it goes fine, we get points across and my time feels genuinely well spent over how much he can serve to teach me things via his perspective within the right wing and his idea of religion.
It's when it gets to his weird conspiratorial coping mechanisms that there's nothing left to say on my end. Others at this point have expressed that there's no reason for me to continue engaging with him over it too, it's not even just me seeing it and my engaging in it ends up having people pity him like he's being bullied, which helps remove the sting a little over letting him keep saying weird shit but is also super annoying.
The correct answer is to let him stew over his weird conspiracies, others grew tired of it before I did and it's about time I take the hint.