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Because I seem to remember you saying you didn't care and it should all burn to the ground on your KF post after doxing Luna, or who you thought was her. Whichever. And playing a role in that process. And I remember that you pretended to be other people, like what Spatial said. Maybe you specifically didn't post CP, but you're kind of just saying that his details are off rather than arguing against the characterization of the situation.

For the hundredth time, over a period of years, to the same exact person over the same exact few stories. Do you not recall those topics that went on forever with nothing to show for it, and why they keep happening? It's straight up purgatorial with this dude and even some others on the forum try to bait it out of him from time to time. 

I can explain the same thing a million times and nothing changes, he just ends up going into a manic outburst where he forgets everything that happened, every time that he's corrected or otherwise presented comparisons to his own behavior, so why waste my time with him over it? Even explaining it to other people threatens him in the same way and he continues to spew increasingly crazy narc shit, and usually by the time he responds in turn those I'd actually be answering it for either miss it, grow bored of it, or wanted the fight in the first place if they don't end up talking to me separate from him to allow the talk to actually take place. 

He is legitimately not worth it, and if you want to talk about it for real we can do it in a space where he won't sperg the fuck out again for pages only to black it out pages of shit no one wants to read later, or you can search it up yourself the data's still here in excess. Instead I need to work on letting him have the last word, or at least answering people like you over the frustration in such a way as not not trigger the guy, as this is far more annoying than the actual recounting of events for me. 

Even when addressed it eventually turns into him doing personal attacks, then him saying he feels like he wasted his time, only to do it again later or insist these pages of time we spent talking didn't happen like he has Alzheimer's. At this point not addressing him is doing him a favor too, he's left the forum a few times over this kind of shit more than once so obviously neither of us really enjoy it when it plays out.

Normally I can make references to past talks I've had with people and it goes somewhere, showing me the time spent talking with them wasn't wasted time, but this guy's stuck on loop while his mind continuously skews the memory no matter how many times I do or don't participate with his addiction. Like genuinely I can't think of anyone else on the forum with the problem as bad as he has it except for maybe Med. Dude'll just plug his ears and call everything lies while he can't even keep his own story straight. 

Like first I felt annoyed, then I felt concerned, now it's mostly frustrating and exhausting in advance over nothing coming of it with neither of us enjoying where it leads. For fucks sake I've had people ask me to stop picking on him over how badly he was doing so I should seriously stop pushing him when he gets like this no matter how strong the urge is to correct it or how much I otherwise would blatantly prefer to defend myself. 

At least letting him getting the last word lets one of us find something fun about these loops. 

@Spatial Mind

Turncoat said: 

For the hundredth time, over a period of years, to the same exact person over the same exact few stories. Do you not recall those topics that went on forever with nothing to show for it, and why they keep happening? It's straight up purgatorial with this dude and even some others on the forum try to bait it out of him from time to time. 

I can explain the same thing a million times and nothing changes, he just ends up going into a manic outburst where he forgets everything that happened, every time that he's corrected or otherwise presented comparisons to his own behavior, so why waste my time with him over it? Even explaining it to other people threatens him in the same way and he continues to spew increasingly crazy narc shit, and usually by the time he responds in turn those I'd actually be answering it for either miss it, grow bored of it, or wanted the fight in the first place if they don't end up talking to me separate from him to allow the talk to actually take place. 

He is legitimately not worth it, and if you want to talk about it for real we can do it in a space where he won't sperg the fuck out again for pages only to black it out pages of shit no one wants to read later, or you can search it up yourself the data's still here in excess. Instead I need to work on letting him have the last word, or at least answering people like you over the frustration in such a way as not not trigger the guy, as this is far more annoying than the actual recounting of events for me. 

Even when addressed it eventually turns into him doing personal attacks, then him saying he feels like he wasted his time, only to do it again later or insist these pages of time we spent talking didn't happen like he has Alzheimer's. At this point not addressing him is doing him a favor too, he's left the forum a few times over this kind of shit more than once so obviously neither of us really enjoy it when it plays out.

Normally I can make references to past talks I've had with people and it goes somewhere, showing me the time spent talking with them wasn't wasted time, but this guy's stuck on loop while his mind continuously skews the memory no matter how many times I do or don't participate with his addiction. Like genuinely I can't think of anyone else on the forum with the problem as bad as he has it except for maybe Med. Dude'll just plug his ears and call everything lies while he can't even keep his own story straight. 

Like first I felt annoyed, then I felt concerned, now it's mostly frustrating and exhausting in advance over nothing coming of it with neither of us enjoying where it leads. For fucks sake I've had people ask me to stop picking on him over how badly he was doing so I should seriously stop pushing him when he gets like this no matter how strong the urge is to correct it or how much I otherwise would blatantly prefer to defend myself. 

At least letting him getting the last word lets one of us find something fun about these loops. 

 Sounding like a big fucking crybaby rn.

Tryptamine said: 

Because I seem to remember you saying you didn't care and it should all burn to the ground on your KF post after doxing Luna, or who you thought was her. Whichever. And playing a role in that process. And I remember that you pretended to be other people, like what Spatial said. Maybe you specifically didn't post CP, but you're kind of just saying that his details are off rather than arguing against the characterization of the situation.

Seeing as I just did a pretty big reply he'll probably be triggered towards anyway, I'll at least try to keep this one brief and divided: 

About Kiwi: 
The Luna topic on Kiwi came after she let my dox float on the front page for days, making a topic outright insisting the current mods keep it up after all the work I'd thanklessly done back then. Rather than give Kiwis somewhere to go she ensured her own forum's death by acting straight retarded. If we actually had them able to stick around we might have ended up with a more vibrant forum culture, like when we'd attracted PsychForums attention, but Luna took what little Null did so personally that she used her mods (plural, not just me) as punching bags. 

About Posting: 
The copy-pasta of my own earlier posts was done because I knew the ones modding would have to clean it up, and that said cleanup would make them increasingly frustrated with the process. They kept claiming things were fine when it was not fine, the tools were still shit and the mods' approach was literally making the spam worse. While not in a mod position it felt like the only way to fix the problem, figuring the community would outlast the forum being hers. 

It was never anything more than text with the very posts I made archived on a blog I could copy it from and observe being read by other users, and those texts were mostly just hateposting about Luna. None of the posts broke any rules and the posts done about Edvard and Spatial she didn't even take down. Even further she posted in those topics encouraging it continue, leading to the two fighting and eventually quitting (with Inq left holding the bag and even sneaking around Luna himself over how BS things became). 

If I'd done any 'real' attacks like CP or whatever it'd have justified their point rather than undermining it. Having a few ego hit pieces and arbitrary rules danced on with no more than a few topics at a time even had it not qualify as proper spam so much as aggressively teasing vitriol, and for those reading it it did shift forum culture against the moderation overtime. The point was to have it be so little actually happening that their frustration and overreach would have people not be on their side, and in tandem with everything else going on it added ever so much to the cumulatively totaled outcome (a lot of users were soft rebelling back then, like over how The Senate was going). 

About Spatial: 
Spatial has a preferred narrative, which isn't abnormal around here, but if you were to take the time to look at his and I's old debates over this shit you'd see how his own stories stand to mutate even further than the bluster they began as while mine remain the same. His time as mod clearly left some scars, it was during a time where the tools barely worked and I knew how many steps it took them to clean it up. He can't seem to let the old war stories go, which in itself is relatable, but one of us has to be the first one to move on. 

Now watch him go, he's not going to be able to sit comfortably with this. Our past talks even uncovered some shit other puppets were doing that I wasn't even aware of, but he will continue to take it like God's speaking to him or whatever while making false claims about me on repeat. For a while the dude straight up called me Satan during a few manic outbursts, it's never going to go anywhere for him. 

Seriously, any story he has involving me is always warped and twisted, even calling those who believe me idiots far enough to burn bridges via twisting stories about them defensively. It's insane the lengths he'll go towards, and the friendships he'll lose, over these loops where his only rationale is that he's right and those who disagree are too stupid to see it if not otherwise being intentionally misleading. 

Matrix said: 

Turncoat said: 

For the hundredth time, over a period of years, to the same exact person over the same exact few stories. Do you not recall those topics that went on forever with nothing to show for it, and why they keep happening? It's straight up purgatorial with this dude and even some others on the forum try to bait it out of him from time to time. 

I can explain the same thing a million times and nothing changes, he just ends up going into a manic outburst where he forgets everything that happened, every time that he's corrected or otherwise presented comparisons to his own behavior, so why waste my time with him over it? Even explaining it to other people threatens him in the same way and he continues to spew increasingly crazy narc shit, and usually by the time he responds in turn those I'd actually be answering it for either miss it, grow bored of it, or wanted the fight in the first place if they don't end up talking to me separate from him to allow the talk to actually take place. 

He is legitimately not worth it, and if you want to talk about it for real we can do it in a space where he won't sperg the fuck out again for pages only to black it out pages of shit no one wants to read later, or you can search it up yourself the data's still here in excess. Instead I need to work on letting him have the last word, or at least answering people like you over the frustration in such a way as not not trigger the guy, as this is far more annoying than the actual recounting of events for me. 

Even when addressed it eventually turns into him doing personal attacks, then him saying he feels like he wasted his time, only to do it again later or insist these pages of time we spent talking didn't happen like he has Alzheimer's. At this point not addressing him is doing him a favor too, he's left the forum a few times over this kind of shit more than once so obviously neither of us really enjoy it when it plays out.

Normally I can make references to past talks I've had with people and it goes somewhere, showing me the time spent talking with them wasn't wasted time, but this guy's stuck on loop while his mind continuously skews the memory no matter how many times I do or don't participate with his addiction. Like genuinely I can't think of anyone else on the forum with the problem as bad as he has it except for maybe Med. Dude'll just plug his ears and call everything lies while he can't even keep his own story straight. 

Like first I felt annoyed, then I felt concerned, now it's mostly frustrating and exhausting in advance over nothing coming of it with neither of us enjoying where it leads. For fucks sake I've had people ask me to stop picking on him over how badly he was doing so I should seriously stop pushing him when he gets like this no matter how strong the urge is to correct it or how much I otherwise would blatantly prefer to defend myself. 

At least letting him getting the last word lets one of us find something fun about these loops. 

 Sounding like a big fucking crybaby rn.

That's what happens when people are honest. 

As you know, I drink, and back then I was REALLY drinking. Even so, I remember events, but the timeline itself gets foggy. I do remember your dox being left up. So if what you did on KF was retaliation, that does add crucial context.

And there was the Senate event which was a soft retaliation. And I was one of the people pushing with that, since Luna was getting very difficult at that juncture. I think I was willing to give the new arrangement of things a chance when the spam started, but clearly others didn't see that way. And really it wasn't so ideological with Jim and some others (I think Matrix was a part of this too). It was more about causing chaos, and I think you seen that as an opportunity. And I understand the reason you give as to why.

I can see why you and Spatial fight so much from the outside. He will give a gestalt and sometimes some of the details will be inaccurate. In this case he's claiming you posted CP. I don't think there was any evidence of that, and actually I would find that difficult to believe. I feel like you could say what he's saying is true as a generality, but that you weren't posting that.

I've seen instances where I thought he was right over details too, like with the Pink01 situation. Well that's a whole other can of worms I don't mean to get into, but my point is this: I think you guys talk past each other sometimes. Like his general analysis was correct, but he comes in with an incendiary accusation. I'll verbalize a rejection of that, because my ability to recall timelines can be spotty, not bad for vibes at all, and I'd 100% remember if you did that.

But also sometimes times it feels like you aren't arguing with the general argument he presents. Or because you hate each other it's unproductive. So I also see why you don't wish to engage.

It is in a sense a culture that was built on fighting, too...but I think we're all getting old lol

Not that it stops me from having the sense of humor I have. I got bored and trolled a server and made them all crash out, and then I told them they're arguing with an 8 year old, and I got banned from the platform. Sometimes there's a little misanthropy which I feel is necessary.

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