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It's because Nathan is a liberal not so actually different from your conservative talking points. Both of you idealize and rationalize the bourgeoisie and their passive incomes while making socialism look as absurd as possible or trying to weaken it while honestly not having any support for it unless you can incorporate in a bourgeois type of idea of passive benefits to go with the same type of mentality of "earning" capital as oppossed to the distribution to the common worker.

It's obviousy dishonest when you mention people being given a four bedroom home, when people should be given any home available, 'beautiful" or four bedroom or not. You draw lines because you have no real support of socialism, same as nimbys (and turncoat) that try to "balance things out," yet ultimately end up supporting a strictly capitalist society.

 

This is why people were mad at Brian Thompson, yet under the capitalists own logic, he did nothing wrong yet they try to say he "took it too far." Well, I say you get what you get what you support capital, which is people like Brian. I am also against Luigi as being a reactionary who fed into exploitative bourgeois hero culture.

 

And no personal attacks on me are not relevant, but because Turncoat is a liberal reactionary, he will only defend Good and never me when I get constant use of fallacy used against me.

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last edit on 12/27/2024 9:33:51 PM
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It's because Nathan is a liberal not so actually different from your conservative talking points. Both of you idealize and rationalize the bourgeoisie and their passive incomes while making socialism look as absurd as possible or trying to weaken it while honestly not having any support for it unless you can incorporate in a bourgeois type of idea of passive benefits to go with the same type of mentality of "earning" capital as oppossed to the distribution to the common worker.

It's obviousy dishonest when you mention people being given a four bedroom home, when people should be given any home available, 'beautiful" or four bedroom or not. You draw lines because you have no real support of socialism, same as nimbys (and turncoat) that try to "balance things out," yet ultimately end up supporting a strictly capitalist society.

 

This is why people were mad at Brian Thompson, yet under the capitalists own logic, he did nothing wrong yet they try to say he "took it too far." Well, I say you get what you get what you support capital, which is people like Brian. I am also against Luigi as being a reactionary who fed into exploitative bourgeois hero culture.

 

And no personal attacks on me are not relevant, but because Turncoat is a liberal reactionary, he will only defend Good and never me when I get constant use of fallacy used against me.

 You are so butthurt because you can't get shit for free.

You are the reason socialism fails. Your lazy freeloading attitude.

All of the similar lazy people get together with their fists in the air against the people that have worked hard and are driven to succeed. This is the class war.

Then, when the revolution is over, all that's left are lazy people that are then forced to labor camps by the thug Marxist Left. Just look at history. There are many many examples.

 

 

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It's just pathetic the way I wasn't talking to you kuhne but you interject to add fallacious and inflamatory attacks, making your part of the discussion void for those two reasons. Why don't you pick on someone who isn't already in a discussion, douche?

"lazy, butthurt"

Immedient insults. You actively attack me emotionally, then attack me for being "butthurt." Typical capitalist narcissism and DARVO technique. Deny, attack, reverse victim and oppressor.

"You freeloaders are why socialism fails. You know they would imprison you/kill you under communism right?"

So which one is it? This is how dishonest, first you say that "people like me" (many people are unemployed because of capitalism) would be attacked under communism, then you say that "we ruin it from freeloading" which not only is a derisive and insidiously assumptive insult, but also inconsistent with what you said before. Capitalism is about free loading, you cunt. And no that isn't "ad hominem" because I'm simply insulting you in return and not using insults to attack your position the same way you attack mine by using insults.

 

But yes, I do think supporting capitalism makes you a cunt and makes you support inherent contradictions.

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last edit on 12/27/2024 11:41:30 PM
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It's just pathetic the way I wasn't talking to you kuhne but you interject to add fallacious and inflamatory attacks, making your part of the discussion void for those two reasons. Why don't you pick on someone who isn't already in a discussion, douche?

 You know what I'm saying is true. You have no response.

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Exploiting workers is not working as hard as the workers, and even if that was partially true with an ownership class coming up with work for themselves, that doesn't justify the exploitation including the deprivation of others from work while being more able to work thanks to capital or labor exploitation.

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What you are saying is not true at all. It's frothing at the mouth over your ugly worship of capital.

Also yes capitalism has labor camps and thugs, it's called the prison system and it's the highest amount of people ever to be sent to labor camps to be tortured and exploited. Along with all the other people having their labor exploited.

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last edit on 12/28/2024 1:23:44 AM
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What you are saying is not true at all. It's frothing at the mouth over your ugly worship of capital.

Also yes capitalism has labor camps and thugs, it's called the prison system and it's the highest amount of people ever to be sent to labor camps to be tortured and exploited. Along with all the other people having their labor exploited.

 Well yeah.

But nobody's come up with a workable alternative, yet.

Communism was a flop, and so was most of what Chomsky tried. Every commune I've seen that was somewhat successful started with upper middle class academics and millions of dollars that they pumped into it before living by their own rules. Those young British anarchists just look like a bunch of punky hipsters living in a bin. Nouveaux homeless. My favourite. 😋 They did their thing about 10 years ago. Not sure if they're still around.

All we can do is find ways to make capitalism as kind as possible. Or not, and we can delude ourselves into believing that we're more deserving than that poor trash over there.

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There doesn't need to be a "workable alternative." Just for people to understand reality so they can stop their own exploitation which is why I still support birth strikes under capital. There is no logical reason to let yourself be exploited by having children under capital and only makes sense to support yourself as much as possible under the demands of capital rewarding a level of submission to its exploits.

Either there's a push to a more complete socialism, or there's a push to the right and ignorant fascism which is what we see rising in Europe. Ignorant fascists setting themselves up and their children for exploitation.

Meanwhile liberals like Jada (and american tc) stay as aloof and intentionally ignorant as possible, and even push religion onto the masses to keep them ignorant.

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last edit on 12/28/2024 9:17:58 PM
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Meanwhile liberals like Jada (and american tc) stay as aloof and intentionally ignorant as possible, and even push religion onto the masses to keep them ignorant.

Someone needs to be sedated and put into mental rehab.

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Meanwhile liberals like Jada (and american tc) stay as aloof and intentionally ignorant as possible, and even push religion onto the masses to keep them ignorant.

Someone needs to be sedated and put into mental rehab.

 and the fascist shows his true colors again

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