You're answering your own question, which diverts your ability to understand.
Who says they keep sinning though ?
Ideally they'd stop sinning if they're aiming to be successful in their religious practices, but within doing so they become limited on what they'll make. In that sense, an Atheist or Satanist would have a broader medium to work from free of constraints.
Therefore it's impossible for a Christian to do what an atheist and Satanist can do ! oh my !
Even if a Christian tried his darndest to be perfect and succeeded, there will be no advantage from sin.
Except literally offering them a broader medium to work from free of constraints.
Do you know what Sin actually is man ? It's foolery. And nothing good that we've produced in history came about from defying God.
None of this denies my point, and a lot of good things that I appreciate came from outside of God's graces.
If anything much of it serves to spit in His face, even down to The Culinary Arts.
Your argument spans as far as saying that if someone is bad at following their own religion's practices that they'd possess the same freedoms.
Everyone is free to do as they will.
Some of the worst people you'll ever see are Jihadists, and they are extremely religious. They will also fuck you up if you can't recite a single phrase from the Quran. They'll also kill you slowly for being queer.
I don't think they produce good results, and they are worse than the typical Satanist, lest they're no different.
All religions that aren't Christianity are deemed "Satanic" by Christianity anyway, so of course to you it'd be no different.
Also this is entirely off the subject of what we were talking about, you must be growing more hyperactive as these talks continue, as we've seen out of you in the past, as the tangents occurring from you are practically ADD.
Again. We're all sinners, but the best of what we have to offer never comes from acts of sin.
Okay then... a lot of our best works were made by unapologetically sinful people, and it's kind of hard to deny that.
Sure.
Nikola Tesla was a theist and he was the greatest inventor of all. I doubt he was perfect.
Tim Berners-Lee is one of the head developers that led to the invention of The Internet, and he's someone who specifically calls himself an Atheist. The rest of those who helped in it's development were also non-Christians.
If we go into the world of Art, the majority of it's works are made by non-Christians, many spitting in the face of God on purpose as part of their Artist's Statement.
Art in itself glorifies worldly values or offers us a glimpse of a non-Heavenly beyond. What it promises is diametrically opposed to Christian values, much like the majority of music has become as well. Even when you find works of Christian Spite against the Satanic values of the Art World it typically feels blander, denatured, like comparing Christian Rock to the rest of music.
I mean who do Christians even have to brag about there, the works of Bach?
Oh, victim blaming and sympathy.
I'll ask again, are they atheists.
Once it became what today is known as "Graphic Design", it became Atheistic (unless you argue that Capitalism is it's own deity).
It's more about function now, even if it borrows from some of the same symbology.You don't know anything about Aleister Crowley it seems.
Moreso that has little to do with the points I'm making. It's not entirely irrelevant, but his works aren't often the denatured works we see on billboards.
I'm meaning moreso stuff like the quote unquote 'Chaos Magic' behind things like The McDonalds Logo.
You're also referring to Freemasonry. It's required to believe in a higher power if you're one of them.
So they symbolism you're referencing that you suggest is so good, are from theists.
I was not referencing Freemasonry, I was referencing Graphic Design.
I'm not even sure how you've confused the two, other than them both having a history of symbols.
There will never be a case of doing dumb shit, and pulling out a result that ends up being the best of what we've done. Maybe something can be discovered by fluke and that does happen, but by no means does that mean we should start acting like an ass without boundary or discipline to find better results.
What about sacrilegious intelligence, the ideas that have done well in spite of God?
Secular art doesn't mean the artist is an atheist either.
They'd be referenced by Christians as Satanic, which falls into the two labels I'd dropped.
Satanic worship also, in spite of the name, is moreso worldly worship with room to thank those who made it possible (ie: Satan). There's a lot in common between most forms of it and Atheism these days, other than your classic Atheist having more of a stick up their ass about proving shit to people.
Regardless of one's belief, what produces good results are good principals. A stoic mind will yield better results than one congested with desire to do dumb shit.
For the self, religion is of great help for many people, but for society it renders it bland and without flavor.
Sin
So when you say "I'm an atheist, and I can comfortably go out of bounds and do dumb shit and that makes me better"!
I'll say good luck with that. And when you're stumbling comes across something half decent, tell the world.
If each of us were to make a list of influential people that have affected our perceptions of it as people, we'd see the list of Christians involved be both mostly from a far gone age and far smaller in number than the ones who are not Christian.
That has moreso been my point, that the majority of Humanity's works are, by Christian standards, either Atheistic or Satanic in nature, and that by being either of those things that you have a broader medium to work from free of constraints.
Either way it'd seem your becoming ramped up is making you have a harder time sticking to subjects. If you need a break, I'm not holding you to the expectation of minute-by-minute replies. If it's the difference between a good one and a bad one, I don't mind waiting for you to calmly collect yourself first.
