Sociopath Community

i do think good has been a good admin though... he has stayed out of affairs... but i think his job is easier because hes a man, and so hes not targeted or harassed as much as i was

i think you guys have lost out on a lof of fun thogh that came with being part of my software development... constantly having new interesting and unique features introduced vareity and chaos into the community, now we just have this static SC2 looking basic website... the leadership of SC & the development of its software has been made much less dynamic and much more static with the recent events... this place is getting stale. the story of SC has to keep moving, it cannot just stay still forever eventless

its like in the movie megamind... when megamind defeats the good hero, and then hes just bored cuz suddenly there is nothing to do anymore lol

Michael didn't reboot, he brought it back up for a bit then took it down again because Loona told him to.

The community was not happy with Loona, because Loona ripped on her people (to cope with "Jim's attacks").

She had few sympathizers left around the end, there was just nowhere to go to for them.

It's funny how your (Luna's) "lesson learned" has nothing to do with the current success of this forum. Despite seeing it working right in front of you you'd still label it impossible. 

Your post also continues to portray how much you never cared about the community. 

puppygirl said: 

not to take away your guys' thunder but i blame myself for pretty much everything. i made mistakes right from the start.

my first mistake was starting a website for sociopaths at all. i am not a sociopath, and i dont need that label following me around all my life. additionally, the label attracted the worst types of people who drove away any chance of quality threads or topics

my 2nd mistake was that i adopted rules that were too relaxed... this attracted pedofiles which in the end frustrated TC, and turned him and other users against me---- fighting the pedos turned the more libertarian users against me too

my 3rd mistake was that i spent too much time flirting with jim, and he formed a crush on me.... that guranteed he would obsessivly try to hurt me in exchange for my rejecting him after he tried increasingly extreme methods of getting my attention

my 4th mistake was getting too involved with the members here. caring what they think, etc. i shoul have just been hands off like my brother-- so much easier to run things when your users dont even know you

my 5th mistake was not conjuring up a ban system effective enough to keep the trolls out. i was techniically possible but i failed in succeeding at that

my 6th mistake was banning users who were not actually breaking rules, but just trying to get under my skin.. such as xadem

my final mistake was not killing SC earlier... it was clear that i was not cut out to run a community with that kind of culture and i exposed myself to a lot more frustration than i should have

 

so did users like xadem and tc and jim, and cawk have a roll in my killing sc? yes... but did they choose to hate me, or did my misteps cause them to target me? i say it was my misteps. i brought it on myself and only blame myself

in the future i will not be as idealistic in terms of allowing liberty of posting.. the great lesson i learned from running SC is that the leader should be firmly in control and the rules should be written to give the leader plenty of control to dictate the culture... without a strong personality to guide the culture, it is too easy for trolls and losers to spam trash until only they are left. imo that is kinda what happened with SC. in the end all the good users left. id argue the good users are still leaving gradually... spatial mind, myself, edvard, etc

 xD

I'm glad that you're taking up responsibility even though I suspect it's not for the right reasons. I forgive you, Luna. 

puppygirl said: 

the biggest thing i disagree with though is this narrative that i "snapped" and killed sc...

The words and tone you demonstrated didn't sell "chill", only you would believe that. 

I watched your activity, by the end there you were almost keeping up with my hours. You'd peter out after so many days and then I'd have a huge stretch of time with no one able to touch me while you rested it off. 

killing sc was a logical decision. i was losing money ($6400). i was losing time (6+ years). i was disliked by my own users (even your favorites turned on you). i was literally getting nothing but bad vibes from it....

It just took spamming this same messages on repeat with reinforcing elements for it to eventually reach you while aiming to appeal to those around you to remark on it around you as a reminder. 

I'm glad it wasn't for nothing. You're welcome. 

it was the most logical thing to do to kill sc, it was the best thing for my future. in 1 swipe, ive did away with a huge amount of risk that went with owning this forum.... governments around the world are only getting more anti-free speech and the owners of a forum like this will be a target some day.

They already likely know who you are and your involvement you once had with this place. 

It's not like SC is the only "sociopath" forum on the internet, and at immediate glance we're actually more meme-y and snarky than the others. 

not to meantion just general legal risk. its not a smart or logical decision to host this forum, no matter how much you idiots idealize it or act like doing so is a mark of success

It's a philosophical balancing act mixed within a small scale sociological experiment that rewards artistic value through the potential for depth. 

i do think good has been a good admin though... he has stayed out of affairs... but i think his job is easier because hes a man, and so hes not targeted or harassed as much as i was

For real? If anything that's made people like Edvard be less friendly to him. He also can't bank on the "I'm just a little girl" passive buff that you were able to coast on for a surprisingly long time. 

this place is getting stale. the story of SC has to keep moving, it cannot just stay still forever eventless

Right now actually has some current drama going on. There's more to "the story" than the state of your code Luna, it's about the community you're blind to. 

Does this mean we are getting the Forum DB? I only have info from SC v1.

puppygirl said: 

not to take away your guys' thunder but i blame myself for pretty much everything. i made mistakes right from the start.

my first mistake was starting a website for sociopaths at all. i am not a sociopath, and i dont need that label following me around all my life. additionally, the label attracted the worst types of people who drove away any chance of quality threads or topics

my 2nd mistake was that i adopted rules that were too relaxed... this attracted pedofiles which in the end frustrated TC, and turned him and other users against me---- fighting the pedos turned the more libertarian users against me too

my 3rd mistake was that i spent too much time flirting with jim, and he formed a crush on me.... that guranteed he would obsessivly try to hurt me in exchange for my rejecting him after he tried increasingly extreme methods of getting my attention

my 4th mistake was getting too involved with the members here. caring what they think, etc. i shoul have just been hands off like my brother-- so much easier to run things when your users dont even know you

my 5th mistake was not conjuring up a ban system effective enough to keep the trolls out. i was techniically possible but i failed in succeeding at that

my 6th mistake was banning users who were not actually breaking rules, but just trying to get under my skin.. such as xadem

my final mistake was not killing SC earlier... it was clear that i was not cut out to run a community with that kind of culture and i exposed myself to a lot more frustration than i should have

 

so did users like xadem and tc and jim, and cawk have a roll in my killing sc? yes... but did they choose to hate me, or did my misteps cause them to target me? i say it was my misteps. i brought it on myself and only blame myself

in the future i will not be as idealistic in terms of allowing liberty of posting.. the great lesson i learned from running SC is that the leader should be firmly in control and the rules should be written to give the leader plenty of control to dictate the culture... without a strong personality to guide the culture, it is too easy for trolls and losers to spam trash until only they are left. imo that is kinda what happened with SC. in the end all the good users left. id argue the good users are still leaving gradually... spatial mind, myself, edvard, etc

 very cool, this is a great post! we all make mistakes and i've made some big ones. learning from your mistakes and not repeating them is important. i think its called growing up.

I've underlined an important one for any leader. your bro''s a smart man and he wants the best for you. im happy you are listening to him. although i do question his judgement about letting his young sister get involved with a bunch of manipulative asshole sociopaths on the internet. ;) tell him hey for me

Billy what does ur butthole smell like

Turncoat said: 

Cawk said: 

To her credit, Luna is not a quick one to crack

She had old-cast faggots as mods who validated and supported her power trips: Tony, Eduard and Inquirer namely.

Spatial was diplomatic with her from the start and did private communications using some weird Chinese version of AOL, Edvard was always buttering up her ego and could have been made mod directly after TK, and Inquirer was a "people's choice" option that she felt like she could control. 

There was a time before she had mods, and a variety of reasons she's had for picking them. Angee was even mod once. 

You're leaving yourself out of that list TC. You're SC's all time highest poster and most decorated mod of all.

Yes I conversed with her on QQ while she was developing SC 6 years ago, and was the first to try it. Other than that I never wanted to be a mod, and I was modded when my arm was twisted in the last days of SC. And how long was I a mod ? Maybe not even 2 months.

And what did I do as a mod ? I mopped up shit from you Cawk and Jim. And Nate, you were the most troublesome.  

Nah add yourself cause you were a mod for YEARS, and you so happen to be Luna's biggest fan, as her greatest servant and her enemy. What put you off the most from Luna, was her modding Inq and Ed, which is why you came after me so hard when I was modded. 

Now I watch as you nod along with Cawk, whose value is worth far less than someone who bites the hand that provides for them.

 

If these idiots didn't sell out, she would've taken down the site much sooner. Loona is one to crack quickly, she just had a lot of support. 

You saw her after much of the damages were done. You aren't wrong, but she adopted that much moderation as a last resort from being driven that close. It completely contradicted everything she stood for to have that many people trying to run the place in her stead... 

No Nate. He is wrong and that thing you have about other Mods in your territory is showing. What lead to members leaving is, CP, and what lead to Luna's "final" meltdown. Was you, Cawk, Jim, and Xadem. To say the least I give her credit for not blowing us away sooner.  

The #1 reason as to why people don't want CP on their screen ? Because people get locked up just for having that shit on their devices, so, as it turns out CP is an actual liability that goes beyond one's disdain and is repulsive on many levels.

Wake up dude. More moderation was a rational decision, and as it turned out you became a part of the problem just like that Cuck you're talking to over there. 

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Cawk said: 

To her credit, Luna is not a quick one to crack

She had old-cast faggots as mods who validated and supported her power trips: Tony, Eduard and Inquirer namely.

Spatial was diplomatic with her from the start and did private communications using some weird Chinese version of AOL, Edvard was always buttering up her ego and could have been made mod directly after TK, and Inquirer was a "people's choice" option that she felt like she could control. 

There was a time before she had mods, and a variety of reasons she's had for picking them. Angee was even mod once. 

You're leaving yourself out of that list TC. You're SC's all time highest poster and most decorated mod of all.

I already feel a little gross showboating this much, plus that's kind of a "well duh". 

And what did I do as a mod ? I mopped up shit from you Cawk and Jim. And Nate, you were the most troublesome. 

Cawk's just going to take that as you trying to ignore his impacts. 

Nah add yourself cause you were a mod for YEARS, and you so happen to be Luna's biggest fan, as her greatest servant and her enemy. What put you off the most from Luna, was her modding Inq and Ed, which is why you came after me so hard when I was modded. 

This was mounting from Luna making too many mistakes. Turns out I had a limit. The mods were a protective bubble for her and had to be routed so that she'd actually listen. 

Now I watch as you nod along with Cawk, whose value is worth far less than someone who bites the hand that provides for them. 

I thought we (including Xadem) were debating/jabbing over his impacts. 

If these idiots didn't sell out, she would've taken down the site much sooner. Loona is one to crack quickly, she just had a lot of support. 

You saw her after much of the damages were done. You aren't wrong, but she adopted that much moderation as a last resort from being driven that close. It completely contradicted everything she stood for to have that many people trying to run the place in her stead... 

No Nate. He is wrong and that thing you have about other Mods in your territory is showing. What lead to members leaving is, CP, and what lead to Luna's "final" meltdown. Was you, Cawk, Jim, and Xadem. To say the least I give her credit for not blowing us away sooner.  

If it was just about mods I would have stopped once you and Ed went splitsville and Inq was corrupted towards the community's side. 

You guys were just in the way, and having to work against the ones who weren't my primary focus felt wrong. I was only able to justify in my head doing the BBCBoingo stuff once you tried doxing Jim's family during your screams towards the Heavens in chat when it wasn't even him. Prior to that all I did was tease you with old S-C records, but your doing that made it that much easier to repost what Vultus was otherwise passively spreading around in public chat. 

Wake up dude. More moderation was a rational decision, and as it turned out you became a part of the problem just like that Cuck you're talking to over there. 

It was a sign of where things were and where they were going, and now we're better off.