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This guy never drops the nickname "Piggie" he gave her for the entire series, they bring her parents on to drill him about it during the Tell-All and everything. 

She even loses weight, yet he gets her a pig stuffed animal and he goes on about how 'cute' pigs are. 

Their culture as a whole is pretty open in speech about judging people's appearances, especially weight. TLC sensationalizes the guy through editing to make him seem insensitive about her weight and US culture, when really the guy by South Korean standards is pretty open-minded for coming here and dating her in the first place. 

He probably thought they would find it funny. That's my take. He probably didn't get that laughing at Americans in America could be considered offensive.

I sort of sympathize. I'm not American, and because of my accent, especially when I'm in the Midwest people tend to ask me what I think about America, American people, president, etc.

Some years back when I was in Milwaukee, there was a lady at one of these greyhound bus stops. It takes ages for the bus to arrive, and so she started a conversation with me about what I'm doing in Milwaukee and I said I was visiting friends and so on and so forth. She was really friendly, I really liked her. Then we got to the point where she asks me what I think about the US president, who at the time was Donald Trump.

She was clearly expecting me to say good things. But there is barely anyone in all of Europe who would say Donald Trump is anything but a walking disaster. So at the time I wasn't sure what I should say. So I went with "I was a bit surprise he was voted in." And that was me holding back.

So I bet when that guy said "what does South Korean people think of Americans" and he went with "greasy food and being fat" I bet he could've said something WAY worse.

If that had been a Finnish family table and someone asked "so what do Americans think of Finns?" and they went with "they think Finnish people are mute and lack social skill" people would find it funny.

Jada said: 

He probably thought they would find it funny.

No, like, he fully picks up that they don't dig it after they repeat how bad it is to him multiple times. They take the time to explain how this might affect someone and he refuses to drop it. Again, he even as a gift got her a stuffed animal of a pig, he's into that and even explains how cute piggies are. 

She tries to get where he's coming from and tolerate it, but it did push her to lose weight, which further concerned her parents. Rather than internalize the notes he's been given he (and she) have instead learned to air it out in public less. 

That's my take. He probably didn't get that laughing at Americans in America could be considered offensive.
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So I bet when that guy said "what does South Korean people think of Americans" and he went with "greasy food and being fat" I bet he could've said something WAY worse.

He has a bit of a nervous laugh with entitlement to physical judgements, but that's less on him though and more on the culture he comes from. Keeping it quick and basic like that is actually pretty typical, it's less that he's trying to be mean and more that he's stuck on the observation. 

The problem here is that he finds her cute over what is being taken culturally as an insult. If he thought this made her ugly he'd be going about things pretty differently. 

Is that the honesty thing you often talk about?

You know, honestly, he's acting like a dick. If he comes to the US, he should respect the local customs. I think people can try to meet foreigners in the middle, but if someone comes in and basically calls your daughter a piggy and then you tell them yeah don't do that, and they still do it, then I'd kick them out of the house.

US is way too understanding. Not punching foreigners in the face when they don't follow local custom is really racist imho, because it alienates foreigners and treats them like they're from a different planet. They're coming to a country knowing full well it'll be different and there'll be some adjustments to make.

First time I was in Asia and I stupidly stuck my chopsticks into the rice, I got slapped on the head and told I'm a dumbass. That's how you do it.

Eh, Americans have been set on coddling feelings for too long. It used to be that endpoint of equality was liberty, particularly in regard to the law. But now someone can call HR and fuck with your livelihood over misgendering. "Body positivity" is one of the most cancerous aspects of this push for total inclusivity. Aside from causing literal cancer, there are all sorts of other health and financial complications Americans are having from being prodigously fat. There used to be a culture of shame around weight that moderated a lot of this, but now the media is emphasizing beauty at any size because there are a bunch of fags obsessed with egalitarianism doing the programming—to the detriment of the health of the population.

The Korean is being a rude guest in a way, but everything here is so upside-down that even though he's speaking in the situation like how most in the world would see things, it's taboo to point out the elephant in the room. If the girl is losing weight because of how he is acting, it seems like he's doing something right.

Tryptamine said: 

Eh, Americans have been set on coddling feelings for too long. It used to be that endpoint of equality was liberty, particularly in regard to the law. But now someone can call HR and fuck with your livelihood over misgendering.

See, in this POV you are putting yourself in the perspective of the misgenderer, aren't they both the so-called victims here? If no action were to be taken over it then people'd continue to punish them for their beliefs on self-identity similar to how gays were in the workplace, and before that women. Also race. 

If no stance is taken in defense of their rights, how is the concept meant to normalize? I tend to find the people who fall prey to the misgendering issue are stubborn repeat offenders, rather than someone who made an honest mistake once or twice, as if someone wants to identify as the other sex they tend to reflect it in their attire. 

"Body positivity" is one of the most cancerous aspects of this push for total inclusivity.

What's wrong with including people? 

Aside from causing literal cancer, there are all sorts of other health and financial complications Americans are having from being prodigously fat.

And as a result there's medications now that claim to melt the fat right off the bone. 

There used to be a culture of shame around weight that moderated a lot of this, but now the media is emphasizing beauty at any size because there are a bunch of fags obsessed with egalitarianism doing the programming—to the detriment of the health of the population.

I'd say this epidemic is dietary, plus with a higher population of people predisposed to gaining weight being accepted they've had more luck rearing children. 

If people began shaming fat people again like they did back in the 90s, that wouldn't suddenly fix "the problem", as there'd still be junk food pretty much everywhere. 

I've seen people who straight up left the US lose weight from the quality of food where they went being different enough. 

The Korean is being a rude guest in a way, but everything here is so upside-down that even though he's speaking in the situation like how most in the world would see things, it's taboo to point out the elephant in the room. If the girl is losing weight because of how he is acting, it seems like he's doing something right.

It depends on how she's losing weight though. If it's being lost from starving herself for example she's shooting her metabolism in the foot. 

If the weight gain is from a pre-existing thyroid condition, then seeing her that thin could be a telltale sign of something bad. 

Frankly many are tired of all of this normalizing and inclusivity. It was a lubed slope from gays getting the right to marry, to the baker has to make a cake for them, to drag shows for kids. There always was going to be a point where your average Midwestern Joe became aware of their limits, where this drive for inclusion was never tempered. Inclusion has expanded to point of advocacy for minor-attracted persons! Because of all of this, pendulum on social issues is about to swing back in a massive way. I think part of the calculus that people who have pushed this inclusivity agenda have been missing, is that they have been unilaterally pushing this way of life upon everyone else.

I agree with you that diet plays a role in the obesity epidemic, and partially there is a weight acceptance component that is "broadening" the gene pool. I am still convinced that bringing shame back into the picture would help solve things. Does it sometimes lead to people doing maladaptive things like trying to diet by not eating? Yes. Though I wonder if that is even necessarily worse than someone just staying fat. Hell, maybe people would even eat less processed foods if they got ridiculed over their weight.

Tryptamine said: 

Frankly many are tired of all of this normalizing and inclusivity. It was a lubed slope from gays getting the right to marry, to the baker has to make a cake for them, to drag shows for kids. There always was going to be a point where your average Midwestern Joe became aware of their limits, where this drive for inclusion was never tempered. Inclusion has expanded to point of advocacy for minor-attracted persons! Because of all of this, pendulum on social issues is about to swing back in a massive way. I think part of the calculus that people who have pushed this inclusivity agenda have been missing, is that they have been unilaterally pushing this way of life upon everyone else.

I agree with you that diet plays a role in the obesity epidemic, and partially there is a weight acceptance component that is "broadening" the gene pool. I am still convinced that bringing shame back into the picture would help solve things. Does it sometimes lead to people doing maladaptive things like trying to diet by not eating? Yes. Though I wonder if that is even necessarily worse than someone just staying fat. Hell, maybe people would even eat less processed foods if they got ridiculed over their weight.

soo who "should" be getting shamed,  the people that manudactor those awful toxic sugary and artificially flavored and fatty foods ??  The grocery stores and restaurants that supply people with those toxic foods, as well as the employees and the managers of those grocery stores and restaurants ?? And if it is not the health of obese pepple that you are actually concerned about, and instead your concern is about there presently seemingly not being enough food to feed everyone in the world, then is it the grocery stores and restaurants that throw away enough food to feed thousands of families throughout a week or soo, instead of donating all of that food to food pantries and suchb ?? Please clairfy :):)

Surely you do not mean that the sick obese people themselves are "the ones to blame" ??  They are sick people.  And as hopwfully any doctor or nurse would tell you,  sick people need medicine,  not toxic shame.

and I feel sad that you seem to be encouraging anorexia and bullimia as well,  soo I hope that I am not understanding fully

I personally believe all shame and guilt amd blame and moralistically judgmental comments and opinions to be toxic and very very unhealthy for everyone involved,  and all of humanity as well

and I am very much not in agreement with the usage of punitive "justice",  and instead I am very much in agreement that restorative justice is a much much more effective,  efficient and healthier form of justice and guidelines for communities and societies and such,  and an alternative to punitive  "justice"  (and yes this is the main reason why I have never pressed charges or legally sued anyone or any company or business through a court system throughout my life)

just joking

just joking