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I am going to do a thought experiment. So let's say that Good handed me a wad of hundred dollar bills, as an investment for to restore SC to its original level of activity, or beyond. How could I approach such a task? If you go into it like a problem solving puzzle, there are a variety of ways that this could be accomplished. But before I go into particular ideas for this, I first need to establish a premise for why this should even be done, and why it's possible at all. 

SC's worst enemy has always been itself. Brutal infighting has permeated through most of its existence. There's no avoiding the fact that some truly reprehensible individuals have been here, and some truly horrendous actions have been perpetrated by forum members. Some of you even may have been been close to some of these situations. And I understand, some may see SC as a place full of skeletons in their closet; no doubt a reason many members have abandoned the forum entirely. 

But should we let these situations of the past defy the site's future? If the biblical God considered humanity in all its degeneracy worthy of a second chance after the flood, perhaps SC too can be redeemed. In order to move on to a better future for the forum, SC and its members are going to have to frankly acknowledge the dark parts of its past head on; only then can SC let go of it and move on to better days. 

Some of you may also have doubts that SC can be saved at all. I can understand why, given its current lack of activity despite of seasonal factors. However, I firmly believe that SC can reverse course and rapidly ascend to a peak never before seen. The world is more interconnected than ever, with more people online than ever before on the wider internet; viral trends are a dime a dozen these days.

Residing in a remote corner of the Internet, with its chaotic and dark history, and old school chatroom vibes, huge cast of bizarre characters, puppet accounts, violence, crime, and drama.... SC has all the makings of a classic "internet rabbit hole", and that genre is gaining more popularity than ever, with the rise of YouTubers like Turkey Tom. If done right, SC's dark past can be used as an asset; attracting new people to come and investigate the forum. Like a Trainwreck people can't help but stare at. This idea lies at the core of my plan to save the forum. 

In order to save SC, a bold approach would have to be taken. Since there isn't millions of dollars behind SC for advertising, members would have to take a grassroots, hands-on approach to get people to join. This means going throughout the internet and spreading the word about SC. Specifically, I think it should be explained in mysterious, dramatic terms. You could say something like "Did you know that there's a forum in the darkest recesses of the internet with a decade long history of chaos, true crime, and intrigue that nobody knows exists? It's called Sociopath Community." Then, maybe mention a few insane classic SC fun facts to further interest them, and let them join and investigate. 

You could even make burner reddit accounts and post about SC in true crime and internet rabbit hole subreddits. You could reach out to YouTubers big and small to get them to try and make a video on SC. Imagine if Turkey Tom uploaded a comprehensive SC documentary.. I believe it's perfectly possible if approached in a smart way. 

However, all of these measures even if successful could prove to be in vain if there isn't some serious change in people's attitude in the future. Like I said earlier, SC was its own worst enemy. While the drama and chaos can be used as an asset to attract people and create intrigue, if SC wants to be anything more than a fleeting novelty to new members people are going to have to learn from the past. While doxing, crime, and intense drama/chaos is intriguing, in the long term it often drives people away.

How many interesting forum members stop coming because they found it to be too toxic and degenerate of an environment to associate with? Therefore, while I don't believe in authoritarian censorship and mod abuse, people are going to have to make a voluntary choice to be better to eachother both to old members and new members. You can have fascinating conversations and great great dynamics without constant toxic drama that leaves people hurt and exhausted. While in the short term, chaos and drama might attract people's initial interest, it will be personal connections and community engagement in a more constructive manner that will cultivate a long term active future for the forum. So while I do believe the dark past can be used to create a certain mystique around the forum, changes should be made in people if we're going to bring activity to a new peak. 

I know some of these ideas may sound radical to older members, who are used to things being done a certain way on SC, it seems that at this point the old way has failed and the only way for SC to rise from the ashes like a Phoenix is to take some risks and adapt for the future. In the words of Def Leppard's Rock of Ages-

"It's better to burn out, than fade away"

My grandiose delusions are better than yours.
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I want it to die so it's all mine and I'm the only one left.

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Delora said: 

I want it to die so it's all mine and I'm the only one left.

So does Turquie though. 🤷‍♂️

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BohemianRhapsody said:

So let's say that Good handed me a wad of hundred dollar bills, as an investment

Already this premise seems unlikely. 

SC's worst enemy has always been itself. Brutal infighting has permeated through most of its existence.

This only happens when the 'new blood' isn't trickling, people're hungry. 

There's no avoiding the fact that some truly reprehensible individuals have been here, and some truly horrendous actions have been perpetrated by forum members.

It's these supposedly horrendous people leaving that's made for others following them. 

This website's activity is at it's loudest when there's someone to bitch about, so when they leave they become bored at the lack of room to bitch about them. It's a bit like Kiwi that way, except Kiwi has a bunch of rules to tame the infighting. 

Every person they were like "We need to ban [name] to fix the forum" that left this place had others grow bored of their absence, as if it's the only reason they came here. People were in the habit of asking for the very things they wanted to go away without looking at the bigger picture.

The last real rush this website had was over ChallengeSeeker, people hated her which kept them coming back, but once she decided she needed a break from the animosity her haters left too. 

But should we let these situations of the past defy the site's future?

They've gone to Discord, where those they wanted gone still prowl and where their past has less leverage against them. The irony of wanting to be around those they hate remains. 

If shit goes south for them they can just join a new server, or powertrip by making their own. Like SC used to be, these servers present a sense of instability rather than structure, which makes for more drama, like back when Tryp ran a server. 

If the biblical God considered humanity in all its degeneracy worthy of a second chance after the flood, perhaps SC too can be redeemed. In order to move on to a better future for the forum, SC and its members are going to have to frankly acknowledge the dark parts of its past head on; only then can SC let go of it and move on to better days. 

The problem is closer to the lack of fresh meat. There needs to be new people to tear down to create a sense of demand, and the forum format itself is diminishing in popularity outside of here as well. 

Some of you may also have doubts that SC can be saved at all. I can understand why, given its current lack of activity despite of seasonal factors. However, I firmly believe that SC can reverse course and rapidly ascend to a peak never before seen. The world is more interconnected than ever, with more people online than ever before on the wider internet; viral trends are a dime a dozen these days.

Residing in a remote corner of the Internet, with its chaotic and dark history, and old school chatroom vibes, huge cast of bizarre characters, puppet accounts, violence, crime, and drama.... SC has all the makings of a classic "internet rabbit hole", and that genre is gaining more popularity than ever, with the rise of YouTubers like Turkey Tom. If done right, SC's dark past can be used as an asset; attracting new people to come and investigate the forum. Like a Trainwreck people can't help but stare at. This idea lies at the core of my plan to save the forum. 

Then where do you propose we find new people to draw the old ones back, and what will have these new people stick around when many of the regulars actively wish for the place to die, with some acting on that desire? 

In order to save SC, a bold approach would have to be taken. Since there isn't millions of dollars behind SC for advertising, members would have to take a grassroots, hands-on approach to get people to join. This means going throughout the internet and spreading the word about SC. Specifically, I think it should be explained in mysterious, dramatic terms. You could say something like "Did you know that there's a forum in the darkest recesses of the internet with a decade long history of chaos, true crime, and intrigue that nobody knows exists? It's called Sociopath Community." Then, maybe mention a few insane classic SC fun facts to further interest them, and let them join and investigate. 

It's always been easy to use the place as a source of conversation, but from what I've seen from new members overtime is that there's so much digging to do to get enough deep lore and in-jokes that they end up not maintaining their interest. 

You could even make burner reddit accounts and post about SC in true crime and internet rabbit hole subreddits. You could reach out to YouTubers big and small to get them to try and make a video on SC. Imagine if Turkey Tom uploaded a comprehensive SC documentary.. I believe it's perfectly possible if approached in a smart way. 

You won't do it though, and for the most part others won't either. 

The problem these days is over this website fishing without bait. The ones who kept people just offended enough to keep posting aren't in the pond anymore. 

While doxing, crime, and intense drama/chaos is intriguing, in the long term it often drives people away. How many interesting forum members stop coming because they found it to be too toxic and degenerate of an environment to associate with? 

The goal was to have it drive them away, that's why a certain user on here even does it. 

Then there's people like Med who can't seem to stop herself, and occasionally Turquie during an episode. 

Therefore, while I don't believe in authoritarian censorship and mod abuse, people are going to have to make a voluntary choice to be better to eachother both to old members and new members. You can have fascinating conversations and great great dynamics without constant toxic drama that leaves people hurt and exhausted.

They kinda can't, which was originally why people who tried to leave here found themselves returning multiple times over how this forum presented a more lenient environment. 

While in the short term, chaos and drama might attract people's initial interest, it will be personal connections and community engagement in a more constructive manner that will cultivate a long term active future for the forum. So while I do believe the dark past can be used to create a certain mystique around the forum, changes should be made in people if we're going to bring activity to a new peak. 

Even with the doxes being modded off the website that won't stop 'the reveal' and the room for it to spread in PMs and DMs. There's also the crowd that specifically enjoys that part of the culture who will not stop, and care more about that than the website itself. 

I know some of these ideas may sound radical to older members, who are used to things being done a certain way on SC, it seems that at this point the old way has failed and the only way for SC to rise from the ashes like a Phoenix is to take some risks and adapt for the future. In the words of Def Leppard's Rock of Ages-

"It's better to burn out, than fade away"

The problem is closer to those who want the website to die for one reason or another. Even outside of those who actively try to wreck the place there's a crowd who come here to keep emphasizing how it's "dead", as if further wishful thinking. The "death" is a state of mind with a rumormill component, and repeatedly emphasizing it makes it increasingly true. 

You'd need them to actually want the place to survive for it to then have anything be built on it's back. Even if you were to find a new base of users to join the place we'd likely see some of the old guard who seemingly hate the place actively trying to make them leave if not at least shutting them up. 

The only thing I can see saving the website at this point from it's current state of decay would be if a large number of people came all at once that could ingroup with eachother. With that the SC oldies wouldn't be as capable of harm as the newbies retreat into their own subgroup for support, and in time they'd learn how to socialize again. The oldies have always been piranha, without another to eat of they consume eachother instead. 

The biggest return I expect would happen if the place was announced to be shutting down. This got a lot of attention in the past anyway. We'd otherwise need people who find how messed up Turquie and Med are to be enough of a draw, as the oldies are too adjusted to their flavor. 

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last edit on 3/12/2024 3:32:50 PM
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BohemianRhapsody said:

So let's say that Good handed me a wad of hundred dollar bills, as an investment

Already this premise seems unlikely. 

SC's worst enemy has always been itself. Brutal infighting has permeated through most of its existence.

This only happens when the 'new blood' isn't trickling, people're hungry. 

There's no avoiding the fact that some truly reprehensible individuals have been here, and some truly horrendous actions have been perpetrated by forum members.

It's these supposedly horrendous people leaving that's made for others following them. 

sc's current state roots back to primal's ban

one old man left in protest. it snowballed from there

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I am going to do a thought experiment. So let's say that Good handed me a wad of hundred dollar bills, as an investment for to restore SC

 I've tried to read this post 3 times and I never make it past the irreconcilablity of this line with reality.

Sc is pretty boring.
last edit on 3/13/2024 2:36:01 PM
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the last interesting users like Jim left

the new ones have too much to loose to be interesting

what makes users interesting is the edginess and the tangibility (their known identity - think Jim, CS, Chapo etc etc)

it really boils down to doxxing culture imo. it is very successful destroying this community 

last edit on 3/13/2024 8:05:36 PM
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the last interesting users like Jim left

the new ones have too much to loose to be interesting

what makes users interesting is the edginess and the tangibility (their known identity - think Jim, CS, Chapo etc etc)

it really boils down to doxxing culture imo. it is very successful destroying this community 

 Jim still comes on here he’s proudincel.

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the last interesting users like Jim left

the new ones have too much to loose to be interesting

what makes users interesting is the edginess and the tangibility (their known identity - think Jim, CS, Chapo etc etc)

it really boils down to doxxing culture imo. it is very successful destroying this community 

 Also nobody ever really truly cared about this forum since 2018.It was for attention grabbing and for people to post there blog. Atleast after the emergence of Discord sociopathcommunity lost all of its relevancy and it became more of a melting pot for being edgy and publicising its edginess like a blog. 

This forum isn’t a community it’s a blog for backward retards to show the world how edgy and fucked up they can be but in reality they never cared. The old days of actual community died out a long time ago mainly in 2018 when discord reared it’s ugly head destroying small and medium sized communal forums.

last edit on 3/13/2024 11:23:42 PM
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the last interesting users like Jim left

the new ones have too much to loose to be interesting

what makes users interesting is the edginess and the tangibility (their known identity - think Jim, CS, Chapo etc etc)

it really boils down to doxxing culture imo. it is very successful destroying this community 

 Also nobody ever really truly cared about this forum since 2018.It was for attention grabbing and for people to post there blog. Atleast after the emergence of Discord sociopathcommunity lost all of its relevancy and it became more of a melting pot for being edgy and publicising its edginess like a blog. 

This forum isn’t a community it’s a blog for backward retards to show the world how edgy and fucked up they can be but in reality they never cared. The old days of actual community died out a long time ago mainly in 2018 when discord reared it’s ugly head destroying small and medium sized communal forums.

I always wondered what happened to sc when I got out of jail in mid 2019. It was doing so well in 2018 when I got arrested and then the website didn’t really exist when I got back. Was pretty devastating.

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