Turncoat said:
Delora said:
When did you first realize that you were trans and what did that entail?
When I was five I already had odd ideas about my gender, and the thought never stopped persisting since then even when I really didn't want to think that way. I've compared my social affect to that of my peers constantly and kept seeing myself modeling off of female behavior. When I was a teenager my voice went from a wonderful alto to a cursed bass range, and no matter how much I've practiced since then it will never pass.
I am so sorry that happened to you. When I was younger I had a time before I was put on hormone therapy that I started growing facial hair actually. And my voice did get low naturally but I actually learned how to speak high and now I have a 5+ octave which is a rare and coveted vocal range when singing. What was it like for you to have that low voice? Was it embarrassing? What emotions did you have? Did you feel strongly?
Back in the Christian 90s it was not even remotely socially acceptable. The only ways to gender swap were to either half-ass it with Drag or to get a really shitty job done somewhere like Tijuana.
I hear that. My family is extremely religious and growing up......ugh WOW. I was bullied in school even back then and that wasn't nearly as bad as the nineties as I am younger than you. But even back then it was odd or unheard of. One difference was I was obsessed with so many boy things I had to hide it to fit in with the girls and I still didn't. In fact oftentimes I found myself sexually attracted to the other girls and had thoughta and feelings no one taught me about and I didn't understand. I felt like a freak. I hated myself. I kissed a girl. People around me hated me.
As I got older I began to learn about the wonders of testosterone and estrogen, but that was not nearly as available to the public as it's become. With the current trans trend though it's been nice to see other people who fall in between the cracks rather than just the paragons of both sides' chemical balances. My parents are low T with my mother high E, which seems to have rubbed off on me in a similar way.
It can destroy your life. I had hormone therapy without consent and it was inconsistent and random in waves of getting none for two weeks and then suddenly getting a shit ton like two weeks worth all at once. The adults around me gave NO shits. None. And this started after I had already been going through puberty and developing more in a male direction without outside interference. But I guess they thought me being physically male with a vagina was going to be horrible and they didn't want me to be what I was effectively born as, they wanted my appearance to match what I had down there even though I had/have an undescended testicle.
It was jarring to me to see people fighting for trans rights after I'd effectively given up on that facet of myself, and even with the current social climate I still carry the Christian 90s shame over it from that being my formative years. The folks have been accepting of the idea while a bit squick over thinking about it, which is the best I can ask for without someone lying about how they feel.
Oh I know exactly what you mean. Before knowing I am just intersex I thought I was trans, and suddenly I went from feeling alone like the only one with seeing hundreds of people around me online being seen in the exact same way and expressing the same thoughts I was having. The only thing is I think it's gone to far now, but It was great at first.
I tend to let the other person just call me whatever gender they want, it's proven easier for conversation and gives them the room to telegraph their perceptions. Rather than be pushy about it beyond the range of debate I'd rather have a synergistic flow in the conversation, and it's easier to have synergy if I am not interrupting them over and over about "she" vs "he". I also aim for clothing that doesn't really telegraph a gender, have allowed myself long hair, and pick hairs off of me with tweezers and an epilator since I hate body hair on myself (it's fine on others, but on me it's wrong).
Doesn't it make you uncomfortable at all being called he even a little bit or no? So basically you don't want to deal with people being inconsiderate. I always thought you didn't care either way. I only started calling you she becomes you seem so feminine to me and i don't really think about it.
In short, I've always felt this way, and it's been a battle to be more willing to say it to people overall. Expressing my belief there tends to have people aesthetically eye how much I don't look the part over how much harder it is to live as a woman than a man in society, while a few who are people readers over the course of my life have asked the question, even before trans trended, from seeing 'something's different here' about the mannerisms and thinking
Yeah I understand what you are saying. Have you ever wondered if you are intersex maybe, like me? There are apparently people who go being like me their entire lives without ever knowing it.
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People afraid of women who are comfortable with men have tended to see me sort of like a bridge, as it's not 'that gender' while still offering the expectations in social situations you'd expect out of estrogen.
WDYM?