ChallengeSeeker:
/big rant about TikTok Guy
Alena:
Does he know you're a pedophile?
ChallengeSeeker:
He knows I was crazy before. He’s a Jesus person, so he knows God changes us, so when I tell him about my past in more detail, he will understand.
So far, I’ve told him about my diary and that I used to want to be a serial killer, but I haven’t gone into more detail about what I was planning or anything, but he was similarly evil, so he will totally understand and see how great God is at working on me and others 😁
Alena:
So you haven't told him you're a pedophile
ChallengeSeeker:
No, because the “you’re” conjunction denotes present tense and would, therefore, be a lie. I don’t want to lie to him. He’s very honest with me, so the least I can do is be honest with him.
I have to rewatch all of my TiKTok videos to see if I look presentable in them, since he’s watching them now. I think I did one about me…? Not sure.
Turncoat:
When do you plan on telling him then?
ChallengeSeeker:
When we talk about God or our past, so it’s relevant. I already told him I can hear God and demons. I called him my friend, so I killed everything, so maybe never 👎 😞
Turncoat:
That'd be lying by omission.
It's also leading him on, he is going about this as if you didn't have a history in that.
ChallengeSeeker:
Not if we no longer talk. You don’t tell people about your dead cat on day one. That’s autistic.
Turncoat:
It could be enough to be a dealbreaker, the longer you wait on it the more it'll hurt if that breaks it.
This is a bit more relevant than a dead cat.
Kinda concerning that this is what you'd compare it to.
ChallengeSeeker:
That’s not true at all. I told him I used to be insane and that I used to want to be a serial killer.
Turncoat:
That's very different.
Omissionary vagueness, you are specifically not telling him this detail because you know it's bad enough to make him leave.
Therefor, you are leading him on.
ChallengeSeeker:
It’s not a deal breaker. He’s a Jesus guy and knows God changes people because God changed him too. He’s not like you guys. He knows.
Turncoat:
Sorry but what you're doing is deceptive, and this detail is much more than "Oh I had a pet once".
Then tell him about the pedophilic history.
It's clearly a dealbreaker.
ChallengeSeeker:
It’s not at all. It’s sin that I was saved from. All sins are the same in God’s eyes, except the seven deadly ones and that’s not one of the seven. It’s not a thing for people who understand that God is real and sin is real and the Bible is real.
Turncoat:
It's clearly a dealbreaker.
It is for most people.
So you really think history in pedophilia is comparable to the pain of losing a pet.
Ummm...
ChallengeSeeker:
Not at all. You aren’t even in the same realm of reality, so you don’t even understand how insignificant it is.
Turncoat:
Which reality, the one of an ex-pedo? 🤨
ChallengeSeeker:
That’s not true at all. I tell everyone everything. It just hasn’t come up yet. We haven’t gotten that deep into either of our Jesus journeys yet. It’s been like a week. Calm down bro 😎
Turncoat:
Seriously CS your means of processing logic is pretty messed up. If you could be trusted to uphold a bet it'd be worth betting money over if the guy'd leave or not.
Even a priest who hears you were once a pedophile before you were saved is going to give you the stink eye.
I tell everyone everything. It just hasn’t come up yet.Omfg such lies."I tell everyone everything. It just hasn’t come up yet."
You're the worst at it, it's straight offensive to read the things you think people will believe.
Good to see you don't feel any real remorse or even see the weight of pedophilia as a problem.
ChallengeSeeker:
That’s dumb. It’s not even close to one. It’s literally like saying that I used to want to murder people because that’s exactly why I had that entire urge, like it’s all tied into each other and I told him why I felt that way as well. It’s just more detail that is just not related to much.
Turncoat:
Later pedo.
ChallengeSeeker:
Not Jesus followers. They get that Jesus literally calls the worst of us. It says in the Bible. You just don’t have any idea about reality and still live in this matrix where people are evil. That’s not God’s thing at all.
I think it’s as relevant, excluding the fact that when we do my mission america idea and walk across America, I’ll be telling that part of the story. I think that’s when it’s relevant. When we start planning for that and actually start diving into our Jesus journeys.
The one where you recognize that Jesus is king of kings and lord of lords and died for our sins, so we are blameless and righteous and don’t sin.
Turncoat said:Seriously CS your means of processing logic is pretty messed up. If you could be trusted to uphold a bet it'd be worth betting money over if the guy'd leave or not.ChallengeSeeker:
I don’t lie, so I’ll bet.
Turncoat said:Even a priest who hears you were once a pedophile before you were saved is going to give you the stink eye.ChallengeSeeker:
They aren’t usually real Jesus followers. They’re like the Pharisees, fake.
Turncoat said:Omfg such lies.
You're the worst at it, it's straight offensive to read the things you think people will believe.ChallengeSeeker:
Nope.
It’s the truth. Jesus followers know the truth. Just because you don’t, doesn’t change the facts.
Turncoat said:Good to see you don't feel any real remorse or even see the weight of pedophilia as a problem.ChallengeSeeker:
I never did anything to hurt anyone. I just planned to. That’s not a problem at all. What are you the thought police?
Turncoat said:Later pedo.ChallengeSeeker:
I’m not one though. That’s probably what you’re not getting. I went through a lot for God to show me that wasn’t me, so it’s not a quick weirdo fetish thing, like you assume it is. It was a disease and God cured me.
Turncoat:
All this pedo justification I can't even.
ChallengeSeeker:
I’m not justifying anything. I’m explaining to you the reality of the situation, but I know you don’t care for reality, so I don’t know why I’m even trying to help you understand 🤣
Turncoat:
Your explanation if anything makes it worse.
ChallengeSeeker:
I just wanted to show people you can’t leave your kids alone in this world without losing them and having something terrible happen to them. People need to protect their kids because terrible things can happen. I wanted to kill the kids so they didn’t have to suffer like I did.Who cares? God knows and that’s literally all that matters. He forgave me and saved me and now I’m free, so… who are you again?Your explanation if anything makes it worse.
Turncoat:
Yeah God does know (about the pedophilia), clearly you don't. 🤣
ChallengeSeeker:
That makes no sense.
How could I not know what I struggled with?
Just wow. What kind of logic is that?
Turncoat:
You keep talking like it's gone but also represent it like you were still in the right and that it has the same weight as talking about a lost pet.
You need therapy.
ChallengeSeeker:
I never said I was in the right and literally wrote it was a sin.
Turncoat:^I just wanted to show people you can’t leave your kids alone in this world without losing them and having something terrible happen to them. People need to protect their kids because terrible things can happen. I wanted to kill the kids so they didn’t have to suffer like I did.
Sorry, but I think you're literally unable to process the situation.
ChallengeSeeker:
I’ve done therapy and it didn’t work, but now I no longer even have depression or anxiety, thanks to God.
Turncoat:
You can't even seem to see the weight of the action, just how God might look at it and half-recognizing that telling TikTok guy could be a dealbreaker, with you otherwise telling yourself it's not the case as weird reassurance while still not telling him.
ChallengeSeeker:
I wrote that in response to the guy who wrote about wrath for the parents. I was explaining how I felt wrath for them, potentially. Follow the convo, bro 😎 (wtf?)
Turncoat:
The reason people look at pedophilic history so poorly is because it's a heavier offense than you seem to be grasping.
Which is frightening.
Even convicts hate pedos.
It's like, hardwired into people to not like people who're into kids.
Even with you claiming to be 'over it', you still defend aspects of it and see it as a light offense (up there with the death of a pet for significance wtf???)
It's showing a very neurodivergent mindset that shows you to still be a risk towards children.
Especially when you say you can just throw yourself at God and the problem goes away.
That's like having an escape hatch in your back pocket for all bad deeds you do or have done.
ChallengeSeeker:
You make no sense. God knows everything and knew everything when I thought it. He saved me and the TiKTok guy hasn’t asked about my Jesus journey yet, so I’m not going to force it on him. I’m not like you weird people. I’m not trying to throw stuff at people to force them to know me and then accept me. I’m talking to him to help him. Not to get him to like me. He has a lot going on and he said he wouldn’t have time for a chick, so this isn’t a relationship thing. I even called him my friend, so it’s not even close to what you think.
Turncoat:
See you don't even understand what I'm talking about, and tangent to other details instead.
You're too lost to see the problem, which is the scariest kind of problem.
First step to recovery is seeing the problem is one.
ChallengeSeeker:I’m not one and it’s because they don’t love Jesus. You can’t hate if you love Jesus. You just don’t get it at all. It’s literally impossible.Even convicts hate pedos.
Turncoat:
/mfw "Convicts don't love pedos because they don't love Jesus". 🤣
One who is with Jesus would simply know to hold their tongue, knowing God will put you in your place when you're done.
Lol when even a priest questioning your pedophilia is enough to say they must be a fake priest. /smh
Turncoat said:Even with you claiming to be 'over it', you still defend aspects of it and see it as a light offense (up there with the death of a pet for significance wtf???)ChallengeSeeker:
I did nothing to hurt anyone. It was just the hand I was dealt and God helped me overcome it, as was my journey. Everything is planned by God. I don’t understand how you think that sin comes from the person, when it originates with the devil and our flesh is corruptible, so without God, we fall short of His glory. Once we have the Holy Spirit, we are cleaned up and made righteous. God only gives us what we can handle and I handled it pretty well. I didn’t do anything to anyone and I turned to God so He could do His thing and fix me. He did. That was literally always how it was supposed to go, so how could I have hoped for different?
Then how can you blame the person?
Turncoat said:It's showing a very neurodivergent mindset that shows you to still be a risk towards children.ChallengeSeeker:
That’s dumb. Just because I’m not stupid and living in some human’s version of reality, means I am a risk to children? You’re the risk to children because you don’t have God. Anything evil is possible without God. With God, nothing evil is possible because God is perfect and can’t mix with sin, so you’re the danger because you’re neurotypical/ a follower.
Turncoat said:Especially when you say you can just throw yourself at God and the problem goes away.ChallengeSeeker:
That’s not what I said at all. I literally wrote that I had to go through a lot to understand that the urges were not coming from me and were not me. I am a child of God, not of the devil. You don’t even know what I had to go through, but it was the scariest experience of my life. God takes depression and anxiety without anything on the person’s part, but that sin was so attached to me that I had to go through something for more than ten days straight for God to get rid of it for me. It’s insane you’re saying just throw yourself at God. No one ever wrote that. Please keep up with the convo.
Turncoat:
Then tell TikTok guy about it if it's fine.
ChallengeSeeker:
/big rant about TikTok Guy
Alena:
Does he know you're a pedophile?
ChallengeSeeker:
He knows I was crazy before. He’s a Jesus person, so he knows God changes us, so when I tell him about my past in more detail, he will understand.
So far, I’ve told him about my diary and that I used to want to be a serial killer, but I haven’t gone into more detail about what I was planning or anything, but he was similarly evil, so he will totally understand and see how great God is at working on me and others 😁
Alena:
So you haven't told him you're a pedophile
ChallengeSeeker:
No, because the “you’re” conjunction denotes present tense and would, therefore, be a lie. I don’t want to lie to him. He’s very honest with me, so the least I can do is be honest with him.
I have to rewatch all of my TiKTok videos to see if I look presentable in them, since he’s watching them now. I think I did one about me…? Not sure.
Turncoat:
When do you plan on telling him then?
ChallengeSeeker:
When we talk about God or our past, so it’s relevant. I already told him I can hear God and demons. I called him my friend, so I killed everything, so maybe never 👎 😞
Turncoat:
That'd be lying by omission.
It's also leading him on, he is going about this as if you didn't have a history in that.
ChallengeSeeker:
Not if we no longer talk. You don’t tell people about your dead cat on day one. That’s autistic.
Turncoat:
It could be enough to be a dealbreaker, the longer you wait on it the more it'll hurt if that breaks it.
This is a bit more relevant than a dead cat.
Kinda concerning that this is what you'd compare it to.
ChallengeSeeker:
That’s not true at all. I told him I used to be insane and that I used to want to be a serial killer.
Turncoat:
That's very different.
Omissionary vagueness, you are specifically not telling him this detail because you know it's bad enough to make him leave.
Therefor, you are leading him on.
ChallengeSeeker:
It’s not a deal breaker. He’s a Jesus guy and knows God changes people because God changed him too. He’s not like you guys. He knows.
Turncoat:
Sorry but what you're doing is deceptive, and this detail is much more than "Oh I had a pet once".
Then tell him about the pedophilic history.
It's clearly a dealbreaker.
ChallengeSeeker:
It’s not at all. It’s sin that I was saved from. All sins are the same in God’s eyes, except the seven deadly ones and that’s not one of the seven. It’s not a thing for people who understand that God is real and sin is real and the Bible is real.
Turncoat:
It's clearly a dealbreaker.
It is for most people.
So you really think history in pedophilia is comparable to the pain of losing a pet.
Ummm...
ChallengeSeeker:
Not at all. You aren’t even in the same realm of reality, so you don’t even understand how insignificant it is.
Turncoat:
Which reality, the one of an ex-pedo? 🤨
ChallengeSeeker:
That’s not true at all. I tell everyone everything. It just hasn’t come up yet. We haven’t gotten that deep into either of our Jesus journeys yet. It’s been like a week. Calm down bro 😎
Turncoat:
Seriously CS your means of processing logic is pretty messed up. If you could be trusted to uphold a bet it'd be worth betting money over if the guy'd leave or not.
Even a priest who hears you were once a pedophile before you were saved is going to give you the stink eye.
I tell everyone everything. It just hasn’t come up yet.Omfg such lies."I tell everyone everything. It just hasn’t come up yet."
You're the worst at it, it's straight offensive to read the things you think people will believe.
Good to see you don't feel any real remorse or even see the weight of pedophilia as a problem.
ChallengeSeeker:
That’s dumb. It’s not even close to one. It’s literally like saying that I used to want to murder people because that’s exactly why I had that entire urge, like it’s all tied into each other and I told him why I felt that way as well. It’s just more detail that is just not related to much.
Turncoat:
Later pedo.
ChallengeSeeker:
Not Jesus followers. They get that Jesus literally calls the worst of us. It says in the Bible. You just don’t have any idea about reality and still live in this matrix where people are evil. That’s not God’s thing at all.
I think it’s as relevant, excluding the fact that when we do my mission america idea and walk across America, I’ll be telling that part of the story. I think that’s when it’s relevant. When we start planning for that and actually start diving into our Jesus journeys.
The one where you recognize that Jesus is king of kings and lord of lords and died for our sins, so we are blameless and righteous and don’t sin.
This is not in order at all. This is a total and complete misdirection of the conversation. I didn’t respond that to that question and you know it! What a liar. What are you doing with your life? Stop trying to create drama because your life is boring and you’re wasting it alone and with no hope and no truth.
God is definitely what you need. It’s not about hurting people so they feel as bad as you do. You need to focus on healing and helping others heal, not just try to find someone who you can hate so you feel better about yourself. That just makes you more bitter in the long run. God gives people joy.
Neurotypical just means you don’t think for yourself and you enjoy lying to make yourself look better in comparison to others, so you feel better about yourself. You’re nothing without God. That’s why you feel like that.
The cure isn’t hating people and trying to drag them down with you, it’s trusting God who you know claims to be perfect because He is, so just try to seek Him and when you find Him, or more accurately, you stop letting your sin block your view of Him, you will heal because you’ll finally understand that everything is about love and not hurting people.
That’s what changed me, God’s love. He showed me those terrible urges weren’t coming from me and they weren’t me. He didn’t have to do that. He could have let me die in my sin and kill people and do evil things, but instead, he put me through some insane and traumatic experiences, so that I would understand that I can let go of all of the pain and hatred and just focus on Him, and let His love flow through me to make myself more loving and share God’s love with others.
I let go of the anger and other sinful emotions that led me to want to do the evil things I’ve talked about. God made that possible by showing me the Way. Jesus showed us what our lives should look like and I prefer that life. I’d love to wash people’s feet and make them feel like royalty. I love helping people and loving everyone, even my haters.
I suggest finding Jesus, like just to give it a try, since you seem to need some guidance and a change of perspective. Maybe even some action in your life. Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. The way to happiness and completeness and even confidence and a sense of fulfilment.