TC has always been against non-robotic judgments as a moderator.
It is more than a janitor when its like that, its management.
Tc has intellectual capacity limitations and will fight all change. Luna had to de mod him when she wanted CP gone. You might need a more nuanced mod, as well as TC, to help guide the change you want. As it is he enforces rules subjectively. Look at how he handled Med’s dox. She asked for it to be removed and he toyed with her forcing her to call his home. Lmao
Singling out a particular individual in this case doesn't feel right. Turq's schizo posting is different that cawk's malicious spaming.
Instead of creating a Turqie specific rule, what if it became a general spam condensing rule:
If a user posts 5 or more times in 1 day, and those posts fit certain criteria*, then all their posts for that day will be condensed into an index.
*The criteria, if all of the posts are about the same topic and reasonably fit in the same thread. If Turq posts 5 times in a row about being sexually attracted to Light and wanting to save SC and Michael Mawhatshisname, those posts all fit together pretty well as schizophrenic ramblings.
If a user posts 5+ times about different topics, and those threads are stimulating forum conversation, condensing them wouldn't make sense.
For example, if Xadem made 5 posts along the lines of:
- Who would win X or Y
- Observation of the forum
- Sharing a personal experience, and encouraging others to share as well
- A shitpost
- An idea to build site traffic
^ These topics do not fit together, and condensing them would deter activity that otherwise would have been there.
But Xadem could also post 10 times in a row "regalize chardlarp," in that case the spam rule should apply to him as well, not just Turquie.
I think this rule would well handle the turq situation without essentially completely removing her posts from the topic list, which does not feel fair.
I have no objections, but I feel like it needs more details to be sure we are not missing something. It is a fine baseline imo.
Singling out a particular individual in this case doesn't feel right. Turq's schizo posting is different that cawk's malicious spaming.
Instead of creating a Turqie specific rule, what if it became a general spam condensing rule:
If a user posts 5 or more times in 1 day, and those posts fit certain criteria*, then all their posts for that day will be condensed into an index.
*The criteria, if all of the posts are about the same topic and reasonably fit in the same thread. If Turq posts 5 times in a row about being sexually attracted to Light and wanting to save SC and Michael Mawhatshisname, those posts all fit together pretty well as schizophrenic ramblings.
If a user posts 5+ times about different topics, and those threads are stimulating forum conversation, condensing them wouldn't make sense.
For example, if Xadem made 5 posts along the lines of:
- Who would win X or Y
- Observation of the forum
- Sharing a personal experience, and encouraging others to share as well
- A shitpost
- An idea to build site traffic
^ These topics do not fit together, and condensing them would deter activity that otherwise would have been there.
But Xadem could also post 10 times in a row "regalize chardlarp," in that case the spam rule should apply to him as well, not just Turquie.
I think this rule would well handle the turq situation without essentially completely removing her posts from the topic list, which does not feel fair.
I have no objections, but I feel like it needs more details to be sure we are not missing something. It is a fine baseline imo.
we should just make it so that people who block people dont see their posts either. this would make for more freedom in sc. less maintenance on the site. and a thousand times easier on mods.
what if someone got pissed at being condensed and just decided to make tc go through hundreds of posts in a day?
Singling out a particular individual in this case doesn't feel right. Turq's schizo posting is different that cawk's malicious spaming.
Instead of creating a Turqie specific rule, what if it became a general spam condensing rule:
If a user posts 5 or more times in 1 day, and those posts fit certain criteria*, then all their posts for that day will be condensed into an index.
*The criteria, if all of the posts are about the same topic and reasonably fit in the same thread. If Turq posts 5 times in a row about being sexually attracted to Light and wanting to save SC and Michael Mawhatshisname, those posts all fit together pretty well as schizophrenic ramblings.
If a user posts 5+ times about different topics, and those threads are stimulating forum conversation, condensing them wouldn't make sense.
For example, if Xadem made 5 posts along the lines of:
- Who would win X or Y
- Observation of the forum
- Sharing a personal experience, and encouraging others to share as well
- A shitpost
- An idea to build site traffic
^ These topics do not fit together, and condensing them would deter activity that otherwise would have been there.
But Xadem could also post 10 times in a row "regalize chardlarp," in that case the spam rule should apply to him as well, not just Turquie.
I think this rule would well handle the turq situation without essentially completely removing her posts from the topic list, which does not feel fair.
I have no objections, but I feel like it needs more details to be sure we are not missing something. It is a fine baseline imo.
yeah a lot of people keep calling posting a lot spam, but i dont think that shits true at all. its like peach says its only spam if its the same thing over and over. and if its different points on the same topic? honestly i would go further and say thats not spam either. only if its the exact same thing being said over and over. for example if one post said "bob suspected of black face?" and then there is a following post "bob exposed: proof for blackface" thats an update and updates should be their own thread.
Singling out a particular individual in this case doesn't feel right. Turq's schizo posting is different that cawk's malicious spaming.
Instead of creating a Turqie specific rule, what if it became a general spam condensing rule:
If a user posts 5 or more times in 1 day, and those posts fit certain criteria*, then all their posts for that day will be condensed into an index.
*The criteria, if all of the posts are about the same topic and reasonably fit in the same thread. If Turq posts 5 times in a row about being sexually attracted to Light and wanting to save SC and Michael Mawhatshisname, those posts all fit together pretty well as schizophrenic ramblings.
If a user posts 5+ times about different topics, and those threads are stimulating forum conversation, condensing them wouldn't make sense.
For example, if Xadem made 5 posts along the lines of:
- Who would win X or Y
- Observation of the forum
- Sharing a personal experience, and encouraging others to share as well
- A shitpost
- An idea to build site traffic
^ These topics do not fit together, and condensing them would deter activity that otherwise would have been there.
But Xadem could also post 10 times in a row "regalize chardlarp," in that case the spam rule should apply to him as well, not just Turquie.
I think this rule would well handle the turq situation without essentially completely removing her posts from the topic list, which does not feel fair.
I have no objections, but I feel like it needs more details to be sure we are not missing something. It is a fine baseline imo.
yeah a lot of people keep calling posting a lot spam, but i dont think that shits true at all. its like peach says its only spam if its the same thing over and over. and if its different points on the same topic? honestly i would go further and say thats not spam either. only if its the exact same thing being said over and over. for example if one post said "bob suspected of black face?" and then there is a following post "bob exposed: proof for blackface" thats an update and updates should be their own thread.
I would disagree, it is clearly on the same topic as the first thread and should be a post in it.
I have no objections, but I feel like it needs more details to be sure we are not missing something. It is a fine baseline imo.
yeah a lot of people keep calling posting a lot spam, but i dont think that shits true at all. its like peach says its only spam if its the same thing over and over. and if its different points on the same topic? honestly i would go further and say thats not spam either. only if its the exact same thing being said over and over. for example if one post said "bob suspected of black face?" and then there is a following post "bob exposed: proof for blackface" thats an update and updates should be their own thread.
I would disagree, it is clearly on the same topic as the first thread and should be a post in it.
i mean your the owner so, im not going to push it to hard. but thats just my take but since the website belongs to you im not going to start harping at you how to run your site.
we should just make it so that people who block people dont see their posts either. this would make for more freedom in sc. less maintenance on the site. and a thousand times easier on mods.
what if someone got pissed at being condensed and just decided to make tc go through hundreds of posts in a day?
Then that's what I'm handling until they realize they won't win. It's how I handled others in the past, like Sinister.
Teaching someone hopeless inevitability is the key to having them forced to adapt, like keeping food away from your pet dog's mouth hundreds of times to train them to stop trying to steal your food.
These days there's even tools to remove multiple posts at once.
I have no objections, but I feel like it needs more details to be sure we are not missing something. It is a fine baseline imo.
yeah a lot of people keep calling posting a lot spam, but i dont think that shits true at all. its like peach says its only spam if its the same thing over and over. and if its different points on the same topic? honestly i would go further and say thats not spam either. only if its the exact same thing being said over and over. for example if one post said "bob suspected of black face?" and then there is a following post "bob exposed: proof for blackface" thats an update and updates should be their own thread.
I would disagree, it is clearly on the same topic as the first thread and should be a post in it.
Thank you.
There is no reason to flood the index.
TC has always been against non-robotic judgments as a moderator.
It is more than a janitor when its like that, its management.
Tc has intellectual capacity limitations and will fight all change. Luna had to de mod him when she wanted CP gone. You might need a more nuanced mod, as well as TC, to help guide the change you want. As it is he enforces rules subjectively. Look at how he handled Med’s dox. She asked for it to be removed and he toyed with her forcing her to call his home. Lmao
he cant fight ALL change since this idea is a change and tc is going for it.
I think you should however give her at least two posts not condensed a day as a condensed post does not have a notification quite the same on the board and is less likely to be read.
I've ignored topics that got actual traffic, kept up ones from days where she didn't make many, and don't plan to hide it until it's had at least 24 hours of life.
This is a trial run, it can be ended or adjusted.
24 hours doesn't sound so bad actually. i get to a point where after 24 hours even i dont want my shit up there anymore and i feel kinda bad when its..... everywhere.
it might make things easier on you if you added an option to have people have the ability to condense their own topics after a 24 hour period or sooner if the person wants with an hour window timeframe to do so. especially with the ability to name said condensed topic and not just have it say "condensed" and leave it there because that makes the e-drama harder to find if someone was away for a day lol.
although i think if someone does what i was mentioning as a possibility earlier where they start like, spamming to make extra work for you on purpose to fuck with you they should have a time out from being able to post. i think the same should go for doxing to btw.
especially if you start this trial period with everyone, because so many people are going to fuck with you. like one person doing it as in the past is one thing but you know people will hate this new rule, and imagine like MASSES of people doing it. fuck.
