Hawk said:I knew you'd say something like that so I'll say again.
You might think I'm unable to reevaluate my perception or that I'm ignorant and all that shit, but due to the actual circumstances and evidence provided, it's required for what's to be presented to be undone. It's simply that.... The current evidence must be undone. For now there's nothing but, in all honesty, liberal media, and haters.
Liberal media is a fucking joke mind you.
- I don't ignore the weight of that tweet from October. That shit is real.
- I see multiple women who are involved sticking up for the Tates. That's literally.
Yes, but you're glossing over the shit I've said that Lena corroborated on the loverboy stuff. Mainly in the sense that what he is on trial for, he fucking detailed on video and bragged about it for a course, and you're just hand waving that as "people do stuff for views." Maybe they do, but how are you going to act like that doesn't look suspicious? It's like if I made videos talking about robbing peoples' houses, and then someone went to the police and claimed I did a B&E on them and I got arrested. Even if I was just doing entertainment, there's really good reason to suspect there might be more to it than just getting views.
I mentioned this already and it's well documented.
Tate plays a character. Even VICE mentioned this and even shows it, in their documentary. Other's who interviewed him said the exact same thing, when the camera aren't rolling they can talk to him about anything, other than that he'll say things for the views, and it works. When the camera rolls Tate will start. He learned that lesson long ago when the tape of him spanking his GF came out, and it bumped up his fame.
Tate found a formula and used it to become as famous as he is now is such little time. On top of that, and I'm not making this up, the Romanian court has yet to find any evidence to use against them.
I don't care what MSM thinks, I don't watch it.
Two women saying something doesn't make it true. I thought with all the MeToo shenanigans, the redpillers would be less trusting of what 2 women have to say on a matter. I guess not, if they're on the right team. It doesn't matter if 100 people stand up for a guy, every last person with Jim Jones drank the Kool Aid and burned with Koresh in Waco. When a lot of people stand up for someone, that tells me they are liked. And that doesn't have much weight to me. People liked Jimmy Saville too.
Okay but so far the Romanian court doesn't have evidence. Again that's not me, that's the Romanian justice system. I also find something wrong in the world when it's leaked 2 months in advance that they are getting detained regardless if they are guilty or not. Is that not valid ? These guys are getting held for 2 months so far and the case has no evidence. They are trying to take them down, but they have nothing. ( in the court, sorry not from me )
If these women are even 2 of the 6 women who were part of the case, for all we know they had a change of heart, or they got death threats and decided to back out. It doesn't matter the motives pure or impure, that's what the trial is for.
From what I understand the Tates have a family like setting with their workers, many of them are now well off from what I gather.
Spatial Mind said:- I see how they refuse to remove those women as victims despite the above points. That's going on for real.Where's this?
I watched the video. Take with a grain of salt that these are the words of one person, and we don't know what their agenda is. Just like I don't automatically assume the women saying they got raped are telling the truth. I need to see something more conclusive than word of mouth on either side. Frankly, I wouldn't be shocked if through some chain a powerful American pulled some strings to make this trial go hard. What it comes down to ties to the next thing you're saying:
I bring up that the electronics were taken 5 days ago for forensics. If that pans out to nothing, and there is no other smoking gun, then looks like there's no case. There are charges...he's being tried for human trafficking. Mind you he details this process on fucking video. Hype for clicks or not, that's the reality. The detainment was extended another 30 days while authorities do the forensics. I don't think this is a martyr situation, it looks like due diligence given the crime being purported. If things just continued from here indefinitely like a circus (as in nothing substantial comes to light), I will not maintain this opinion.
So if anyone who came forward sticks to their testimony, it's because they were under coercion? You set impossible barriers to overcome for proving guilt. If there is corruption at play that I'm seeing, it's that he's probably being treated like shit in jail.
They're in solitary confinement.
What is there to undo here? Biggest thing that I seen you bring up was the audio might be fake. Because I don't know anything about audio analysis other than one guy on YouTube, I suspend my judgment on it. Didn't you say there is 0 evidence in court, and doesn't that mean the audio is totally irrelevant to the case?
There's no top end in the soundwave which is the mark of the sound being CG. It's also been decorated, and some of the clip it sounds more like Tristan than Andrew. Tristan's accent is more British while Andrew's accent is more skewed, probably from traveling.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1619873424486301698 I can also explain the process of how to make Ai copy someone's voice, Making it sound like it's on a phone and adding background noise to make it sound like it's in a real environment would be a post processing trick. Also I just found that twitter handle now, I simply went looking for an Ai that sounds like Tate. It can be touched up in audacity before sending it out. I know because i use this type of Ai for voice acting in my animated porn movies.
You're saying many of the woman that worked there are speaking highly of the Tates. Lots of people will do that if they're making bank and don't personally feel wronged. But I don't really care what people are saying, I care about evidence in this matter.
Well I laid down 6 points last time, maybe more before that at least 7 or 8 maybe. The women who worked for the Tates made bank. The way the Tate Brothers operate on a personal note is through shared bank accounts. They share their money as a good practice they learned from 5 Coolie Brothers who shared several fancy cars.
The main woman in question is that American girl who claimed to her boyfriend that she was at the Tate mansion behind held against her will. He called the American embassy and they got detained for a few hours last April. The game girl is seen on footage twerking her ass and accepting a Pizza. People being held against their will also do not have access to cellphones in which the American woman lied to her Boyfriend, probably after Tristan blew her back out. She has a new Twerk btw.
To me it seems pretty obvious that guilt isn't proven, and the case probably hinges on the electronics. If anything, things are looking pretty good right now if there's 0 evidence in court, no? But I get the sense that if it came out he was out in the open about playing the loverboy game in his texts as he was on video, you'd just say it was planted or something.
Deja Vu. What I understand, is that powerful people want them gone
The Matrix taking him down. When you say you wouldn't even trust the man himself saying he's guilty because you are so aligned with his innocence, that seems like a pretty big suspension of judgment. Are you really so sure he didn't do this thing he's been talking about doing repeatedly, as well as describing on his courses as a way to help sell them? Maybe he didn't, it just doesn't seem like it takes a leap of faith to wonder about that.
Rest is obvious.
