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Delora said: 
Delora said: 

I believe if a man has a child with a crooked woman and she goes sour. He should support the child, however, the amount granted is retarded.

Anyone who doesn't pay child support doesn't spend the amount of money to raise a child as someone who is being charged to pay monthly. 

HONESTLY that depends on the judge. I have heard of en paying as little as fifty bucks in child support which is nuts, and some men having their lives destroyed by child support because they couldn't handle it.

An old friend, older guy. Baby Boomer. He paid child support for 17 years. Yes that is, him getting fucked over when the child was 1 year old. Here's what happened.

- She got his house. ( He repaired the whole house, new plumbing crown moulding, niced it up )

- She got the kid.

- He paid $120,000+ over the 17 years which is around $600 or so a month To him that was a lot

- She raised the kid to resent him ( a little girl )

- She was a packrat 

I went to the house once or twice to help assemble a bed HE bought his daughter. The place was so packed we had to walk sideways. Things stacked from the floor to the ceiling. We were hardly able to move. A lot of the stuff in there had price tags on it. His ex was a total freak she just loved shopping.

 I'm not surprised. Further more there are so many case where the woman has the right to claim someone is the father yet refuse a DNA test. Men need more rights it's nuts as fuck. In some states even if you prove you not the dad, if she was married to you even if she fucked another dude and cucked the husband, even with DNA test proof it's not his the husband ends up paying that shit anyway by a technicality 

 

It's even crazier when you consider a woman can skip her birth control and trick a man into getting her Prego just to fuck him over if she really wanted, that's insane.

 there needs to be a male contraceptiev pill honestly, the less unwanted children in the world the better.

 Yes I fully agree! Finally another woman that agrees with me on this shit! 

It's even considered "controversial" to make male birth control beyond condoms because it "takes power from the woman" like wtf?! Why should anyone, man or woman, be purposefully given that sort of power over anyone? It's fucked up. Men should be able to say "I want to abort" and if the woman says no then don't make him pay child support. There you fucking go 

 I'm pretty sure that's not why male contraceptives were halted, that seems like a mra talking point. It was halted because of the high rate of secondary effects men were having when they got the injection 

last edit on 1/10/2023 8:56:44 PM
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Lenalee said: 
Delora said: 
Delora said: 

I believe if a man has a child with a crooked woman and she goes sour. He should support the child, however, the amount granted is retarded.

Anyone who doesn't pay child support doesn't spend the amount of money to raise a child as someone who is being charged to pay monthly. 

HONESTLY that depends on the judge. I have heard of en paying as little as fifty bucks in child support which is nuts, and some men having their lives destroyed by child support because they couldn't handle it.

An old friend, older guy. Baby Boomer. He paid child support for 17 years. Yes that is, him getting fucked over when the child was 1 year old. Here's what happened.

- She got his house. ( He repaired the whole house, new plumbing crown moulding, niced it up )

- She got the kid.

- He paid $120,000+ over the 17 years which is around $600 or so a month To him that was a lot

- She raised the kid to resent him ( a little girl )

- She was a packrat 

I went to the house once or twice to help assemble a bed HE bought his daughter. The place was so packed we had to walk sideways. Things stacked from the floor to the ceiling. We were hardly able to move. A lot of the stuff in there had price tags on it. His ex was a total freak she just loved shopping.

 I'm not surprised. Further more there are so many case where the woman has the right to claim someone is the father yet refuse a DNA test. Men need more rights it's nuts as fuck. In some states even if you prove you not the dad, if she was married to you even if she fucked another dude and cucked the husband, even with DNA test proof it's not his the husband ends up paying that shit anyway by a technicality 

 

It's even crazier when you consider a woman can skip her birth control and trick a man into getting her Prego just to fuck him over if she really wanted, that's insane.

 there needs to be a male contraceptiev pill honestly, the less unwanted children in the world the better.

 Yes I fully agree! Finally another woman that agrees with me on this shit! 

It's even considered "controversial" to make male birth control beyond condoms because it "takes power from the woman" like wtf?! Why should anyone, man or woman, be purposefully given that sort of power over anyone? It's fucked up. Men should be able to say "I want to abort" and if the woman says no then don't make him pay child support. There you fucking go 

 I'm pretty sure that's not why male contraceptives were halted, that seems like a mra talking point. It was halted because of the high rate of secondary effects men were having when they got the injection 

 That was a part of it but further study was halted due to controversy 

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Delora said: 
Lenalee said: 
Delora said: 
Delora said: 

I believe if a man has a child with a crooked woman and she goes sour. He should support the child, however, the amount granted is retarded.

Anyone who doesn't pay child support doesn't spend the amount of money to raise a child as someone who is being charged to pay monthly. 

HONESTLY that depends on the judge. I have heard of en paying as little as fifty bucks in child support which is nuts, and some men having their lives destroyed by child support because they couldn't handle it.

An old friend, older guy. Baby Boomer. He paid child support for 17 years. Yes that is, him getting fucked over when the child was 1 year old. Here's what happened.

- She got his house. ( He repaired the whole house, new plumbing crown moulding, niced it up )

- She got the kid.

- He paid $120,000+ over the 17 years which is around $600 or so a month To him that was a lot

- She raised the kid to resent him ( a little girl )

- She was a packrat 

I went to the house once or twice to help assemble a bed HE bought his daughter. The place was so packed we had to walk sideways. Things stacked from the floor to the ceiling. We were hardly able to move. A lot of the stuff in there had price tags on it. His ex was a total freak she just loved shopping.

 I'm not surprised. Further more there are so many case where the woman has the right to claim someone is the father yet refuse a DNA test. Men need more rights it's nuts as fuck. In some states even if you prove you not the dad, if she was married to you even if she fucked another dude and cucked the husband, even with DNA test proof it's not his the husband ends up paying that shit anyway by a technicality 

 

It's even crazier when you consider a woman can skip her birth control and trick a man into getting her Prego just to fuck him over if she really wanted, that's insane.

 there needs to be a male contraceptiev pill honestly, the less unwanted children in the world the better.

 Yes I fully agree! Finally another woman that agrees with me on this shit! 

It's even considered "controversial" to make male birth control beyond condoms because it "takes power from the woman" like wtf?! Why should anyone, man or woman, be purposefully given that sort of power over anyone? It's fucked up. Men should be able to say "I want to abort" and if the woman says no then don't make him pay child support. There you fucking go 

 I'm pretty sure that's not why male contraceptives were halted, that seems like a mra talking point. It was halted because of the high rate of secondary effects men were having when they got the injection 

 That was a part of it but further study was halted due to controversy 

 Can you link the taking power away from women controversy? I don't see that as a reason to halt a test but would be interesting to see someone having claimed that as the reason 

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Birth control for men fails, while a woman shouldn't expect her multiple partners to be using it.

In a relationship  men on some type of birth control might work, until she somehow get's pregnant and gives birth to some other guy's kid. ( In the grand scheme that happens anyway, so birth control for women rules again ).

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It's worse for a woman to have multiple husbands than it is for a man to have multiple wives. Or else her children will need DNA tests to determine who the Father is. It's just messy.

That's today's facts.

last edit on 1/10/2023 10:47:28 PM
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0 votes RE: If women can choose to abort, then men-

Birth control for men fails, while a woman shouldn't expect her multiple partners to be using it.

In a relationship  men on some type of birth control might work, until she somehow get's pregnant and gives birth to some other guy's kid. ( In the grand scheme that happens anyway, so birth control for women rules again ).

.

.

.

It's worse for a woman to have multiple husbands than it is for a man to have multiple wives. Or else her children will need DNA tests to determine who the Father is. It's just messy.

That's today's facts.

no woman who lied about the father of her child ever had multiple husbands lmao so your point is moot. women will sleep around if they want to with their man being none the wiser so nothing will ever stop that being possible.

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Delora said: 
Delora said: 

I believe if a man has a child with a crooked woman and she goes sour. He should support the child, however, the amount granted is retarded.

Anyone who doesn't pay child support doesn't spend the amount of money to raise a child as someone who is being charged to pay monthly. 

HONESTLY that depends on the judge. I have heard of en paying as little as fifty bucks in child support which is nuts, and some men having their lives destroyed by child support because they couldn't handle it.

An old friend, older guy. Baby Boomer. He paid child support for 17 years. Yes that is, him getting fucked over when the child was 1 year old. Here's what happened.

- She got his house. ( He repaired the whole house, new plumbing crown moulding, niced it up )

- She got the kid.

- He paid $120,000+ over the 17 years which is around $600 or so a month To him that was a lot

- She raised the kid to resent him ( a little girl )

- She was a packrat 

I went to the house once or twice to help assemble a bed HE bought his daughter. The place was so packed we had to walk sideways. Things stacked from the floor to the ceiling. We were hardly able to move. A lot of the stuff in there had price tags on it. His ex was a total freak she just loved shopping.

 I'm not surprised. Further more there are so many case where the woman has the right to claim someone is the father yet refuse a DNA test. Men need more rights it's nuts as fuck. In some states even if you prove you not the dad, if she was married to you even if she fucked another dude and cucked the husband, even with DNA test proof it's not his the husband ends up paying that shit anyway by a technicality 

It's even crazier when you consider a woman can skip her birth control and trick a man into getting her Prego just to fuck him over if she really wanted, that's insane.

 there needs to be a male contraceptiev pill honestly, the less unwanted children in the world the better.

 Yes I fully agree! Finally another woman that agrees with me on this shit! 

They tried making these around the time I was still in college, but the men reported mood swings while it was in the testing stages so it was either slowed down or became discontinued. After what I'd gone through that had me pretty mad: 

How did this latest study work?

It was a pretty big study; they gave shots to 320 men every eight weeks, in different countries around the world. The shot contained two hormones, and it worked pretty well. It knocked down their sperm counts significantly, and there were only a handful of pregnancies among partners of men in the trial.

But two committees were paying close attention to the study, and they realized that a lot of guys were dropping out because they were experiencing side effects. The most common side effect was acne, and sometimes that acne was pretty severe. Some men also developed mood swings and in some cases those mood swings got pretty bad. One man developed severe depression, and another tried to commit suicide. Because of that, they cut the study short.

But when they spoke with guys in the study who didn't drop out, most said that if this product was available, they would use it.

Source: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/11/03/500549503/male-birth-control-study-killed-after-men-complain-about-side-effects


There is still male Vasectamies, which can be reversed unlike when women go for Tubal Ligation. If a man does not want to get people pregnant there are ways, but a surgical procedure, let alone two of them if they want to change it back, is too scary for them. 

 
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0 votes RE: If women can choose to abort, then men-

Birth control for men fails, while a woman shouldn't expect her multiple partners to be using it.

In a relationship  men on some type of birth control might work, until she somehow get's pregnant and gives birth to some other guy's kid. ( In the grand scheme that happens anyway, so birth control for women rules again ).

.

.

.

It's worse for a woman to have multiple husbands than it is for a man to have multiple wives. Or else her children will need DNA tests to determine who the Father is. It's just messy.

That's today's facts.

no woman who lied about the father of her child ever had multiple husbands lmao so your point is moot.

I'm talking in terms of an enclosed open relationship. It matter not if they are husbands or boyfriends, it's the same thing.

women will sleep around if they want to with their man being none the wiser so nothing will ever stop that being possible.

 Agreed.

As far as birth control goes. It's more effective for the woman to be on it, especially if she's sleeping around.

Next thing you know she get's pregnant and doesn't know who the Father is ( happens often enough ).

Birth control for females is best. Not every female will take it.

My message to men would be. Don't rely on her to take care of avoiding pregnancy. It's simple to do without taking some drug. 

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women will sleep around if they want to with their man being none the wiser so nothing will ever stop that being possible.

Agreed.

As far as birth control goes. It's more effective for the woman to be on it, especially if she's sleeping around.

Next thing you know she get's pregnant and doesn't know who the Father is ( happens often enough ).

Birth control for females is best. Not every female will take it.

My message to men would be. Don't rely on her to take care of avoiding pregnancy. It's simple to do without taking some drug. 

Why not have both sexes take it? 

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last edit on 1/11/2023 4:40:04 AM
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0 votes RE: If women can choose to abort, then men-

women will sleep around if they want to with their man being none the wiser so nothing will ever stop that being possible.

Agreed.

As far as birth control goes. It's more effective for the woman to be on it, especially if she's sleeping around.

Next thing you know she get's pregnant and doesn't know who the Father is ( happens often enough ).

Birth control for females is best. Not every female will take it.

My message to men would be. Don't rely on her to take care of avoiding pregnancy. It's simple to do without taking some drug. 

Why not have both sexes take it? 

 Have you ever taken Birth control ?

Posts: 33414
0 votes RE: If women can choose to abort, then men-

women will sleep around if they want to with their man being none the wiser so nothing will ever stop that being possible.

Agreed.

As far as birth control goes. It's more effective for the woman to be on it, especially if she's sleeping around.

Next thing you know she get's pregnant and doesn't know who the Father is ( happens often enough ).

Birth control for females is best. Not every female will take it.

My message to men would be. Don't rely on her to take care of avoiding pregnancy. It's simple to do without taking some drug. 

Why not have both sexes take it? 

 Have you ever taken Birth control ?

As I said earlier they stopped the male version from being put on the market, otherwise fuck yeah I would opt for that. 

I've seen how birth control affected exes of mine, not all women handle it well and their symptoms they were just expected to live with men are being complete babies about. If it proves easier on me than them of course I'd do it instead, they were suffering. 

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last edit on 1/11/2023 6:15:02 AM
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