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If women can choose to abort, and the logic is it's the woman's decision/responsibility of the baby is born, then by that logic men shouldn't have to pay child support because if it's truly the woman's choice then it's her fault if the baby is born. Therefore the male shouldn't have to pay by that logic. Though I am pro life. 

Thoughts?

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Child support isn't about punishing the parent, it's about support for the child. 

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I believe if a man has a child with a crooked woman and she goes sour. He should support the child, however, the amount granted is retarded.

Anyone who doesn't pay child support doesn't spend the amount of money to raise a child as someone who is being charged to pay monthly. 

An old friend, older guy. Baby Boomer. He paid child support for 17 years. Yes that is, him getting fucked over when the child was 1 year old. Here's what happened.

- She got his house. ( He repaired the whole house, new plumbing crown moulding, niced it up )

- She got the kid.

- He paid $120,000+ over the 17 years which is around $600 or so a month To him that was a lot

- She raised the kid to resent him ( a little girl )

- She was a packrat 

I went to the house once or twice to help assemble a bed HE bought his daughter. The place was so packed we had to walk sideways. Things stacked from the floor to the ceiling. We were hardly able to move. A lot of the stuff in there had price tags on it. His ex was a total freak she just loved shopping.

 

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Child support isn't about punishing the parent, it's about support for the child. 

 Yes but if the logic is the woman decides if the child exists then it's her responsibility if it exists when you follow the same logic, therefore it would not be the father's responsibility to support the child if that were really true. 

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I believe if a man has a child with a crooked woman and she goes sour. He should support the child, however, the amount granted is retarded.

Anyone who doesn't pay child support doesn't spend the amount of money to raise a child as someone who is being charged to pay monthly. 

HONESTLY that depends on the judge. I have heard of en paying as little as fifty bucks in child support which is nuts, and some men having their lives destroyed by child support because they couldn't handle it.

An old friend, older guy. Baby Boomer. He paid child support for 17 years. Yes that is, him getting fucked over when the child was 1 year old. Here's what happened.

- She got his house. ( He repaired the whole house, new plumbing crown moulding, niced it up )

- She got the kid.

- He paid $120,000+ over the 17 years which is around $600 or so a month To him that was a lot

- She raised the kid to resent him ( a little girl )

- She was a packrat 

I went to the house once or twice to help assemble a bed HE bought his daughter. The place was so packed we had to walk sideways. Things stacked from the floor to the ceiling. We were hardly able to move. A lot of the stuff in there had price tags on it. His ex was a total freak she just loved shopping.

 I'm not surprised. Further more there are so many case where the woman has the right to claim someone is the father yet refuse a DNA test. Men need more rights it's nuts as fuck. In some states even if you prove you not the dad, if she was married to you even if she fucked another dude and cucked the husband, even with DNA test proof it's not his the husband ends up paying that shit anyway by a technicality 

 

It's even crazier when you consider a woman can skip her birth control and trick a man into getting her Prego just to fuck him over if she really wanted, that's insane.

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Delora said: 

Child support isn't about punishing the parent, it's about support for the child. 

 Yes but if the logic is the woman decides if the child exists then it's her responsibility if it exists when you follow the same logic, therefore it would not be the father's responsibility to support the child if that were really true. 

With abortion, there is no child to throw money at so it's cut and dry. 

Keeping the kid's where it gets dicey. 

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Delora said: 

If women can choose to abort, and the logic is it's the woman's decision/responsibility of the baby is born, then by that logic men shouldn't have to pay child support because if it's truly the woman's choice then it's her fault if the baby is born. Therefore the male shouldn't have to pay by that logic. Though I am pro life. 

Thoughts?

 i completely agree. i thought this thread was gonna be on some bullshit but absolutely, if he can't choose to abort the child cos he's not financially ready etc then he shouldn't have to pay for the child either.

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Delora said: 

I believe if a man has a child with a crooked woman and she goes sour. He should support the child, however, the amount granted is retarded.

Anyone who doesn't pay child support doesn't spend the amount of money to raise a child as someone who is being charged to pay monthly. 

HONESTLY that depends on the judge. I have heard of en paying as little as fifty bucks in child support which is nuts, and some men having their lives destroyed by child support because they couldn't handle it.

An old friend, older guy. Baby Boomer. He paid child support for 17 years. Yes that is, him getting fucked over when the child was 1 year old. Here's what happened.

- She got his house. ( He repaired the whole house, new plumbing crown moulding, niced it up )

- She got the kid.

- He paid $120,000+ over the 17 years which is around $600 or so a month To him that was a lot

- She raised the kid to resent him ( a little girl )

- She was a packrat 

I went to the house once or twice to help assemble a bed HE bought his daughter. The place was so packed we had to walk sideways. Things stacked from the floor to the ceiling. We were hardly able to move. A lot of the stuff in there had price tags on it. His ex was a total freak she just loved shopping.

 I'm not surprised. Further more there are so many case where the woman has the right to claim someone is the father yet refuse a DNA test. Men need more rights it's nuts as fuck. In some states even if you prove you not the dad, if she was married to you even if she fucked another dude and cucked the husband, even with DNA test proof it's not his the husband ends up paying that shit anyway by a technicality 

 

It's even crazier when you consider a woman can skip her birth control and trick a man into getting her Prego just to fuck him over if she really wanted, that's insane.

 there needs to be a male contraceptiev pill honestly, the less unwanted children in the world the better.

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Delora said: 

Child support isn't about punishing the parent, it's about support for the child. 

 Yes but if the logic is the woman decides if the child exists then it's her responsibility if it exists when you follow the same logic, therefore it would not be the father's responsibility to support the child if that were really true. 

With abortion, there is no child to throw money at so it's cut and dry. 

Keeping the kid's where it gets dicey. 

 I think you don't understand the point at hand

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1 votes RE: If women can choose to abort, then men-
Delora said: 

I believe if a man has a child with a crooked woman and she goes sour. He should support the child, however, the amount granted is retarded.

Anyone who doesn't pay child support doesn't spend the amount of money to raise a child as someone who is being charged to pay monthly. 

HONESTLY that depends on the judge. I have heard of en paying as little as fifty bucks in child support which is nuts, and some men having their lives destroyed by child support because they couldn't handle it.

An old friend, older guy. Baby Boomer. He paid child support for 17 years. Yes that is, him getting fucked over when the child was 1 year old. Here's what happened.

- She got his house. ( He repaired the whole house, new plumbing crown moulding, niced it up )

- She got the kid.

- He paid $120,000+ over the 17 years which is around $600 or so a month To him that was a lot

- She raised the kid to resent him ( a little girl )

- She was a packrat 

I went to the house once or twice to help assemble a bed HE bought his daughter. The place was so packed we had to walk sideways. Things stacked from the floor to the ceiling. We were hardly able to move. A lot of the stuff in there had price tags on it. His ex was a total freak she just loved shopping.

 I'm not surprised. Further more there are so many case where the woman has the right to claim someone is the father yet refuse a DNA test. Men need more rights it's nuts as fuck. In some states even if you prove you not the dad, if she was married to you even if she fucked another dude and cucked the husband, even with DNA test proof it's not his the husband ends up paying that shit anyway by a technicality 

 

It's even crazier when you consider a woman can skip her birth control and trick a man into getting her Prego just to fuck him over if she really wanted, that's insane.

 there needs to be a male contraceptiev pill honestly, the less unwanted children in the world the better.

 Yes I fully agree! Finally another woman that agrees with me on this shit! 

It's even considered "controversial" to make male birth control beyond condoms because it "takes power from the woman" like wtf?! Why should anyone, man or woman, be purposefully given that sort of power over anyone? It's fucked up. Men should be able to say "I want to abort" and if the woman says no then don't make him pay child support. There you fucking go 

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