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So you’ve got Newton’s first law but you are missing very important piece & I like this way of putting it : “In the absence of a net nonzero force,” an object in motion will remain in motion in a straight line and an object at rest will remain at rest.

In answer to you I’ve never really had issues with sleep except for a brief period for which I recall taking Ambien. Ambien will make you drunk text and so forth and worse if you push past the point of somnolence. If I don’t sleep it’s a sign something is wrong.

I can assure you nobody has it as bad as you described it, but that’s because you’ve gotten used to a routine that is damaging you. In general people struggle with these things to some extent, it’s just how you adapt to life that will control your future.

I never had issues with sleep, at least not caused by myself, but even then I make up for it.

For almost a decade I would go t sleep at about 4 in the morning and wake up at 9-10 in the morning. About 2-3 times a month I would have a random nap for 1-2 hours as well. On weekends I would sleep usually till 12, but sometimes 13 and rarely 14.

During the last few months of last year, I started to go to sleep at 3-4 in the morning and now I try to sleep at 2-3 in the morning, the goal is to get it to 2. I also have been taking random naps more often than last year, because I started to workout I would guess.

The only reason I don't just do it at 2, is because I really do not like to sleep and I need to make it a habit, not fight myself, so it needs to be slow, so I can get used to it. Otherwise once it's time to go to bed, I will just not give a fuck and ignore it.

But once I am in bed, it is super rare that it would take me more than 30 minutes to fall asleep. And I might have issues getting up due to lack of sleep in general, but if I have a normal amount of sleep it is no issue and once I do get up, I have no issues staying up.

I've never drunk coffee, other than to taste it.

Good said: 

I never had issues with sleep, at least not caused by myself, but even then I make up for it.

 

For almost a decade I would go t sleep at about 4 in the morning and wake up at 9-10 in the morning. About 2-3 times a month I would have a random nap for 1-2 hours as well. On weekends I would sleep usually till 12, but sometimes 13 and rarely 14.

 

During the last few months of last year, I started to go to sleep at 3-4 in the morning and now I try to sleep at 2-3 in the morning, the goal is to get it to 2. I also have been taking random naps more often than last year, because I started to workout I would guess.

The only reason I don't just do it at 2, is because I really do not like to sleep and I need to make it a habit, not fight myself, so it needs to be slow, so I can get used to it. Otherwise once it's time to go to bed, I will just not give a fuck and ignore it.

But once I am in bed, it is super rare that it would take me more than 30 minutes to fall asleep. And I might have issues getting up due to lack of sleep in general, but if I have a normal amount of sleep it is no issue and once I do get up, I have no issues staying up.

 

I've never drunk coffee, other than to taste it.

 I just got decaff coffee.

I tend to cause myself issues with inevitably staying up till 2 AM-4AM and trying to wake up at 7AM-9AM, its definitely unhealthy and it needs to stop, recently it has been harder to wake up, and just this morning I went to bed at 3 AM and I wanted to wake up at 9 AM, and ended up falling asleep till 10.

It doesn't help that in total I spend 10-11 hours, sometimes 12 in regards to prep, going to work, working, and then leaving. and my stubbornness to want to maintain what free time I get. 

PalePeach said: 

I have an incredibly difficult time both falling asleep and waking up. I've suffered from chronic insomnia most of my life. Falling asleep now is a multi-hour ordeal, usually relying on nonprescription chemical assistance.

Eyyy we both have this problem. I've found forcing myself to roll out of bed and applying cold water to my eyelids to jumpstart the wakeful period, even three days into no sleep. 

To sleep and stop being so jittery I drink a little and do a little something else to keep myself under control. I tried sleep medication but that stuff just made me loopy and hyper so I stopped the attempts across brands. 

What's your record for days without sleep? Mine's 12 days with some eye-opened zoning out accomplishing mild rest, and now I wish I had someone keeping a record on me during that period over how my issue could have potentially broken a record. 

Waking up is just as difficult.

How long does it take you to enter a wakeful state once you're up though? 

It used to take me about 30 minutes with multiple alarms and forcing myself to roll onto an uncomfortable surface, but now I can do it in five to ten. 

Alice litterally brings me coffee in bed every morning because I simply cannot get up without a caffeine jump start. After my coffee comes a 15-20 minute soak in the tub as my brain  comes back to life. I have been 20 to 60 minutes late for work every single day for the last year, due to my inability to get up and start getting ready in a timely manner. All of that, just for the cycle to repeat at the end of the day when my brain is fully in ON mode and won't shut up and rest.

I was always late for classes and my sick days were spent on sleeping through it, but I was never late for my jobs from a cataclysmic feeling of how that'd result in my failing them (for shit like a grocery job wtf?), but I did skip many nights of sleep to make sure I didn't miss work if I couldn't shake the wakefulness that night. 

Since self-medicating to get rest my eyes have begun to look more normal, but a lot of the damages are permanent: 



I've been like this since before I could form childhood memories, apparently, and as I got closer and closer to college it got increasingly worse. The photo I had floating around for the former eyes topic on this forum years back shows more of the extent of it. 

Turncoat said: 

PalePeach said: 

I have an incredibly difficult time both falling asleep and waking up. I've suffered from chronic insomnia most of my life. Falling asleep now is a multi-hour ordeal, usually relying on nonprescription chemical assistance.

Eyyy we both have this problem. I've found forcing myself to roll out of bed and applying cold water to my eyelids to jumpstart the wakeful period, even three days into no sleep. 

Cold nooo cold makes me recoil and personally doesn't help the wake up process. Makes me go slug mode and curl up more into a ball.

To sleep and stop being so jittery I drink a little and do a little something else to keep myself under control. I tried sleep medication but that stuff just made me loopy and hyper so I stopped the attempts across brands. 

I'm nervous to try sleeping medication for these reasons

What's your record for days without sleep?

Damn mine is only like 3 days, but that was drug related. 2 days with no chemical influence.

Mine's 12 days with some eye-opened zoning out accomplishing mild rest, and now I wish I had someone keeping a record on me during that period over how my issue could have potentially broken a record. 

Thanks you for this perspective, my sleep problems don't seem as bad now

 

Waking up is just as difficult.

How long does it take you to enter a wakeful state once you're up though? 

I need about an hour to actually be functional.

It used to take me about 30 minutes with multiple alarms and forcing myself to roll onto an uncomfortable surface, but now I can do it in five to ten. 

I have 25 alarms set, one every minute between 5:45 and 6:10. Once I'm awake it takes 15-30 to actually get up and start getting ready. Getting ready includes sitting in the tub and additional 15-20 while I warm up and ease into awakeness.

 

Alice litterally brings me coffee in bed every morning because I simply cannot get up without a caffeine jump start. After my coffee comes a 15-20 minute soak in the tub as my brain  comes back to life. I have been 20 to 60 minutes late for work every single day for the last year, due to my inability to get up and start getting ready in a timely manner. All of that, just for the cycle to repeat at the end of the day when my brain is fully in ON mode and won't shut up and rest.

I was always late for classes and my sick days were spent on sleeping through it, but I was never late for my jobs from a cataclysmic feeling of how that'd result in my failing them (for shit like a grocery job wtf?), but I did skip many nights of sleep to make sure I didn't miss work if I couldn't shake the wakefulness that night. 

I was like that with my old jobs. This job needs me so they're pretty lax. As long as I make up the time at the end of the day it has not been a problem yet.

Since self-medicating to get rest my eyes have begun to look more normal, but a lot of the damages are permanent: 


I've been like this since before I could form childhood memories, apparently, and as I got closer and closer to college it got increasingly worse. The photo I had floating around for the former eyes topic on this forum years back shows more of the extent of it. 

 Hawt. I'd like to see that pic for comparison

Have you tried the normal stuff? Like turning off all artificial light 2 hours before bed. Turn off all phones and computers?

This world we live in is not natural. It's full of stimulants