Are you srsly trying to tell me that the Ukrainians fired on a building that was clearly marked "CHILDREN" in 2m letters?
Their own children?
Josef fucking Goebbels much?
Many of those people were ABDUCTED. Forced to relocate to Russia.
They were put through 'filtration.'
Their Ukrainian passports and all their money was taken.
Some were beaten until they repeated the Ruzzian party line.
Ruzzian occupiers have stolen thousands of children from Ukrainian orphanages and sent them for brainwashing.
This is in English.
I may make it a project through the winter to get transcripts from some of these vids for you, so one or both of us can run it through google translate.
For now, I'll try to choose vids where the interviewees are speaking Ukrainian or Ruzzian.
Did you say your Ukrainian is good enough to translate?
Mariupol.
Tens of thousands of civilians murdered and buried in mass graves.
Including the theatre, where over 600 people were sheltering. The word "children" was clearly painted on the ground for any bombers to see.
After the occupation, the Ruzzians just built a wall around the thing and let all those people rot where they fell.
The last 2 vids are just Before and After images.
The last vid has images from several Ukrainian cities.
The one before it is all Mariupol.
I can't watch the first video. "Video is not available.
The owner of the video has banned it from viewing in your country."
other videos show the ruins. soldiers of the Azov Regiment and soldiers of the Ukrainian army, who defended the city, did not use the trenches on the approaches to the city. they put their artillery and tanks between the buildings in the city. they used the buildings as firing positions. of course, the Russian army used artillery and aircraft to minimize infantry losses. if the Ukrainians had used the territory of the Azovstal plant for defense from the very beginning, large losses among the civilian population could have been avoided.
in addition, many of the buildings in the video were destroyed by the Ukrainian artillery, because they, too, were firing at the buildings that were occupied by the Russian infantry. part of the inhabitants of Mariupol was killed by the Ukrainians themselves. this is a war... this video shows the Iraqi city of Mosul and if you think that no one was killed by the coalition forces and all the buildings were destroyed by ISIS terrorists, then you are wrong. even smart american bombs have stupid shrapnel that kills anyone near the target.
during the battles for Mariupol there were truces and residents could choose where to evacuate. I saw a video of one Ukrainian in Mariupol, who lived in the city for several days under shelling, because his old mother refused to evacuate before the city was stormed. this man left the city and went to ukraine, and was not exiled to a gulag in siberia.
I seem to recall back in April, just before some fool talked Zelensky into giving the order to surrender the city. The Ruzzians pulled one of their now infamous bait and switch routines that I mentioned when I went on that rant about your pundit. You remember? The one I called Bizzarro World Ann Coulter :P
The one in Mariupol was probably the worst because the Azov had a plan to get those people out, if Scholz had not caved to Putin and started losing his shit all over the negotiations.
The Ruzzians promised at least 5 times that there would be a ceasefire for long enough to get the civilians out. There were over 2000 people hiding in Azovstal alone, and several thousand more queue'd up and trying to leave. But every time a vehicle moved, the Ruzzians started shooting again.
Eventually, they were stuck and took the only option available to them.
Ruzzian refugee centre set up like a mass homeless shelter.
I mean, srsly. why would they choose that when hundreds of thousands of Canadians and Europeans are opening their homes for free or close to it?
Some of these homes are beautiful.
To date the Poles have taken in more Ukrainians than any other country.
many left for Russia simply because they have relatives here and all Ukrainians speak Russian and it is easy to find a job. I mean that there is no need to learn Polish, German, English and other languages in order to work. To be honest, I don't know for sure. perhaps most of the refugees came from the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.
Dima79
Are you srsly trying to tell me that the Ukrainians fired on a building that was clearly marked "CHILDREN" in 2m letters?
Their own children?
Josef fucking Goebbels much?
I didn't say they were shooting at houses marked "children". I mean, they used artillery, which means that even if they shot at a building occupied by Russian infantry, the fragments of the shell could well kill people even in neighboring houses.
why didn't they dig trenches near the city? they decided to fight in the city, and this led to a large number of casualties.
Dima79
Many of those people were ABDUCTED. Forced to relocate to Russia.
They were put through 'filtration.'
Their Ukrainian passports and all their money was taken.
Some were beaten until they repeated the Ruzzian party line.
Ruzzian occupiers have stolen thousands of children from Ukrainian orphanages and sent them for brainwashing.
This is in English.
I may make it a project through the winter to get transcripts from some of these vids for you, so one or both of us can run it through google translate.
For now, I'll try to choose vids where the interviewees are speaking Ukrainian or Ruzzian.
Did you say your Ukrainian is good enough to translate?
Mariupol.
Tens of thousands of civilians murdered and buried in mass graves.
Including the theatre, where over 600 people were sheltering. The word "children" was clearly painted on the ground for any bombers to see.
After the occupation, the Ruzzians just built a wall around the thing and let all those people rot where they fell.
The last 2 vids are just Before and After images.
The last vid has images from several Ukrainian cities.
The one before it is all Mariupol.
I can't watch the first video. "Video is not available.
The owner of the video has banned it from viewing in your country."
other videos show the ruins. soldiers of the Azov Regiment and soldiers of the Ukrainian army, who defended the city, did not use the trenches on the approaches to the city. they put their artillery and tanks between the buildings in the city. they used the buildings as firing positions. of course, the Russian army used artillery and aircraft to minimize infantry losses. if the Ukrainians had used the territory of the Azovstal plant for defense from the very beginning, large losses among the civilian population could have been avoided.
in addition, many of the buildings in the video were destroyed by the Ukrainian artillery, because they, too, were firing at the buildings that were occupied by the Russian infantry. part of the inhabitants of Mariupol was killed by the Ukrainians themselves. this is a war... this video shows the Iraqi city of Mosul and if you think that no one was killed by the coalition forces and all the buildings were destroyed by ISIS terrorists, then you are wrong. even smart american bombs have stupid shrapnel that kills anyone near the target.
during the battles for Mariupol there were truces and residents could choose where to evacuate. I saw a video of one Ukrainian in Mariupol, who lived in the city for several days under shelling, because his old mother refused to evacuate before the city was stormed. this man left the city and went to ukraine, and was not exiled to a gulag in siberia.
I seem to recall back in April, just before some fool talked Zelensky into giving the order to surrender the city. The Ruzzians pulled one of their now infamous bait and switch routines that I mentioned when I went on that rant about your pundit. You remember? The one I called Bizzarro World Ann Coulter :P
The one in Mariupol was probably the worst because the Azov had a plan to get those people out, if Scholz had not caved to Putin and started losing his shit all over the negotiations.
The Ruzzians promised at least 5 times that there would be a ceasefire for long enough to get the civilians out. There were over 2000 people hiding in Azovstal alone, and several thousand more queue'd up and trying to leave. But every time a vehicle moved, the Ruzzians started shooting again.
Eventually, they were stuck and took the only option available to them.
Ruzzian refugee centre set up like a mass homeless shelter.
I mean, srsly. why would they choose that when hundreds of thousands of Canadians and Europeans are opening their homes for free or close to it?
Some of these homes are beautiful.
To date the Poles have taken in more Ukrainians than any other country.
the Americans warned Zelensky that Putin was preparing an invasion in February. he would start evacuating before the invasion, but he said that would have created traffic jams and hindered the movement of Ukrainian troops...
Dima79
I'm pretty sure the Ruzzians started fighting in the city.
It sort of looked like the only way to get them was to send snipers, and guys with javelins in to take out the tanks.
I remember a tik tok meme of some ridiculous Kadyrovite standing between broken buildings shooting 2 guns while a tank flattened cars and benches.
So rude.
How is somebody supposed to dig a trench in a public city sidewalk?
Mariupol is a big place. Almost 500 000 people before the war.
Kyiv is estimating that at least 20 000 are dead and at least twice that many were deported to Ruzzia.
Are you saying that there was a way to build a trench that wasn't 10 or 20 miles away from the fighting?
Idk. I was never a soldier.
You were.
I know the Ruzzians were also dropping white phosphorous all over Azovstal.
Good luck cleaning that up.
That steel plant is likely ruined beyond repair after that.
How is somebody supposed to dig a trench in a public city sidewalk?
Mariupol is a big place. Almost 500 000 people before the war.
Kyiv is estimating that at least 20 000 are dead and at least twice that many were deported to Ruzzia.
Are you saying that there was a way to build a trench that wasn't 10 or 20 miles away from the fighting?
Idk. I was never a soldier.
You were.
I know the Ruzzians were also dropping white phosphorous all over Azovstal.
Good luck cleaning that up.
That steel plant is likely ruined beyond repair after that.
the Americans warned Zelensky that Putin was preparing an invasion in February. it was time to get ready for it. no need to dig trenches with shovels. there is a special motorized technique for this. no need to encircle the entire city with trenches. Enough to control the roads. if I'm not mistaken, your javelins can hit tanks at a distance of 5 km.
Dima79
I know the Ruzzians were also dropping white phosphorous all over Azovstal.
Good luck cleaning that up.
I need to watch the video. the Soviet army was armed with special aerial bombs and rockets with illuminating shells. outwardly, it is very similar to phosphorus shells.
Dima79
This is footage from early in the war, from just outside Kyiv.
For comparison, for the other SC members, this is some excellent footage of the carnage in Syria when incendiary weapons were used there.
I was fairly sure before that what was being dropped on Azovstal was white phosphorous, not some glowy bomb :P
Now I'm positive.
This news source, Hindustan Times is out of India.
They love Ruzzia bc of their shared history. Ruzzia defended them recently when they needed help.
They are one of the most pro-Ruzzian countries out there.
They have confirmed it for us.
If you don't mind waiting a few hours, I can copy and paste the text into google translate for you.
Must be crazy for Brittany to see what people think of the trade. If it were Michael Jordan the US would throw a party upon his return.
I would have still been like "wtf" if it were over MJ or any other Space Jam names.
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