Life is awesome because it has pizza and cats. No pizza or cats after you die.
How do you know?
died and came back to life
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I want stem cells so I can live for as long as “humanly” possible. Ehh idk I wouldn’t really like the effects of aging I guess. But the idea of being healthy and young looking and whatever forever sounds decent.
i think the idea of "me" becoming old makes sense. i don't see any greater youth than actual youth in the circle of life.
Life is awesome because it has pizza and cats. No pizza or cats after you die.
So I take it a cyborg-form that doesn't need to eat would be a downgrade for you?
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I would like the Altered Carbon or Eclipse Phase style of immortality, where consciousness is basically a downloadable state of information you can download/upload, with implants and nanotech allowing for even biological instantiation. You get to potentially keep all the juicy wetware you're fond of, without the fear of cessation of consciousness that might accompany death. You can even keep back ups and all sorts of good stuff.
...Of course, that whole concept has its own set of various cans of worms.
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I would like the Altered Carbon or Eclipse Phase style of immortality, where consciousness is basically a downloadable state of information you can download/upload, with implants and nanotech allowing for even biological instantiation.
Once the brain escapes the brainpan, so too will whatever mental damages you naturally carried, and if it rids you of that then you are losing an important distinctive piece of your humanity in the transfer. This is before even getting into the idea of copying your consciousness.
Once mental degradation could be done through tech-based immortality, how much of you is left past a point? Could you straight up delete and rewrite portions of yourself to behave as an "earlier model" for example, or as someone with more capabilities than the original you, or rid of your humanity near-entirely by absorbing multiple consciousness into one chasis?
How they'd even be able to account for the more fuzzy parts of meat-logic as a downloadable form is already a lot to accept, heuristics would change entirely when in a new storage unit unless they learned to mimic that somehow, with all that'd remain of the quirks being as if sentimental echoes, old habits at most.
Based on how many decades we've spent trying to change how humanity works in the name of performance (like medication for example), I'd imagine a reduction of our humanity through "Self Help" programs that effectively rewrite people to be more capable than they originally were, while also having their personality degrade into these programs.
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I would like the Altered Carbon or Eclipse Phase style of immortality, where consciousness is basically a downloadable state of information you can download/upload, with implants and nanotech allowing for even biological instantiation.
Once the brain escapes the brainpan, so too will whatever mental damages you naturally carried, and if it rids you of that then you are losing an important distinctive piece of your humanity in the transfer. This is before even getting into the idea of copying your consciousness.
Once mental degradation could be done through tech-based immortality, how much of you is left past a point?
You take for granted this degradation will be present or unfixable. The real conundrum lies in the Ship of Theseus, though.
Quantum teleportation is a real thing too (in fact, but much much smaller scale), however, it effectively rewrites matter/energy: destroys the source object in its recreation elsewhere. This isn't unlike Star Trek. I think there was speculation there that all the characters are really a succession of clones. If the copies are exact enough, complete with apparent consciousness, how do we tell the difference anyway?
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I would like the Altered Carbon or Eclipse Phase style of immortality, where consciousness is basically a downloadable state of information you can download/upload, with implants and nanotech allowing for even biological instantiation.
Once the brain escapes the brainpan, so too will whatever mental damages you naturally carried, and if it rids you of that then you are losing an important distinctive piece of your humanity in the transfer. This is before even getting into the idea of copying your consciousness.
Once mental degradation could be done through tech-based immortality, how much of you is left past a point?You take for granted this degradation will be present or unfixable. The real conundrum lies in the Ship of Theseus, though.
Quantum teleportation is a real thing to, however, it effectively rewrites matter/energy: destroys the source object in its recreation elsewhere. This isn't unlike Star Trek. I think there was speculation there that all the characters are really a succession of clones. If the copies are exact enough, complete with apparent consciousness, how do we tell the difference anyway?
Star Trek actually is closer to what we saw in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory in that it converts them into a different form of matter for transport before turning them back. At most they could use old records to try to adjust what comes through the transporter to try to rid of diseases or other afflictions gained since then, but even the episode itself that went there acted like the idea was wild and experimental.
The clone teleport thing is something I've heard of, but Star Trek in particular didn't go there. 🤓
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Star Trek actually is closer to what we saw in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory in that it converts them into a different form of matter for transport before turning them back. At most they could use old records to try to adjust what comes through the transporter to try to rid of diseases or other afflictions gained since then, but even the episode itself that went there acted like the idea was wild and experimental.
I believe you're talking about the buffer. Transporters break your matter down essentially into information and energy. Unless you consider information and energy "a different form of matter" (when, in fact, it's more technically an equivalence), the real difference is in the apparent lack of mentioning entanglement in the process of teleportation.
The buffer apparently stores the energy and information for reassembly. The question there is of entropic forces. Storing all the binding forces' worth of energy that make up a body and also the data required to repiece trillions of molecular bonds out of distant matter... O_O They have signal problems and communications hiccups all the time. Storing the energy seems a bit superfluous, but I imagine it is fuel for the process.
The presence of the buffer and other technomagic apparently does let them filter out basic pathogens to sanitize transporter users. However, it also led to the de-aging of Picard and a few other crewmembers in an episode, since it had a only a partial pattern or something.
The clone teleport thing is something I've heard of, but Star Trek in particular didn't go there. 🤓
There have been a lot of weird transporter events. But I don't recall defacto cloning. The thing is, though, it may be technically very close to it, regardless.
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Weirdly enough, once they went into more into Transporter mishaps it seemed almost like they were tapping into the Ethereal Plane or something mystical like that (rather than scientific). They'd have weird creatures from that phase attack or join with people in ways that could have the matter reconstruct wrong, or there can be interference on the planet that stops them from committing to the transport if not coming back differently.
The transporter's seriously weird.
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