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I don't see much controversy in your statements trypt. 

I am Jewish. 

I have spent a lot of time with Jews, both family and others via group gatherings and this doesn't really seem controversial to me. 

Jews prefer Jews, culturally, religiously, and materially. 

Jews spend a lot of time helping other Jews, its a big part of being Jewish. 

This puts Jews at an advantage given resources and support are easy to come by. 

This is not specific to Jews. I live in an area full of Amish now, and Amish are the richest people around here and they seem to reinforce each other the same way Jews do. 

Jewish culture is real and it its great for Jews and often pretty great for lots of others given Jews are charitable as a whole. Jews are also just people like everyone else, despite what some Jews may think, and as such the culture and our own success can lead us to trample on others knowingly and unknowingly. 

Every culture should have some self awareness in what makes it both good and bad. But hey maybe fuck all the rest of you at the same time. Maybe Jews should group together and fuck up nations in intentional ways. *Rubs hands together* 

I have never seen super bad Jews like hardcore white supremacists claims but its not like the culture can't hurt out groups in subtle ways. 

Is it reasonable to think that given we occupy a lot of positions of power that we may have a lot of influence and even have guided the system into what it is today to some degree culturally. If that turns out to be true, do we bare responsibility for the not so great systematic things that we have pushed forward under the influence of our own culture? 

No lets get down to brass tax, what are we going to do about the Hindus? 

 Didn't ask.

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Hawk said: 

let it go down in the history books that you are the most politically correct and tolerant person, and nothing i ever said had any validity at all

What are you even talking about with this weirdly defeatist statement? 

You act like you're oppressed or something over what a few people did to a few other people. Just call on them by name, you don't have to appeal back to Hitler's hayday to justify your points

 yeah good job you got the most brownie points, call them all out by name

You really can't see my motivations being anything more than moralfaggotry, rather than discussing how to actually get the points across in a constructive way? 

 I addressed them as the Jews in power, and the arguments carried on with claims of antisemitism.

I don't remember it going that way personally, but this is also more towards Tryp who, for whatever reason, isn't falling into the nuance he usually would. 

yeah there are levels to nuance about it, this is why you're saying call out the individuals

because creating hate against a group isn't productive, the end goal is what, everyone hates jews now? ok nothing productive. so you're saying focus on the individuals

It creates the potential for other right wing adjacent groups to push alongside it, like layers of an onion. It opens the door for this sort of thing, purely based on how it's presented for what tone it's meant to elicit rather than being about the information itself: 



Figure who already has a problem with the Jewish people, and how they might stand to benefit from a sudden surge of antisemitic sentiments. These kinds of times serve as the means of easing people into the deeper rhetoric, even if unintentionally, through generalizing much more broadly than is deserved. 

but this time it's not a matter of individuals, it's a matter of culture. the jewish community has selective preference for each other, and they help escalate each other into power.

Which ones have the power that lends to them offering it to the rest though? 

The community are the ones accepting the cash, the ones benefiting from it, but that at most makes them complicit rather than directly responsible.

they are also concentrated in the financial sector because, historically, this is what jews did to survive in europe. they are also concentrated in media for reasons i don't totally understand yet. when you line everything up, it's not a conspiracy theory, it's something right in front of you

How many of them though? 

It's a niche group that is giving back to the larger whole, that doesn't negate said niche. Beyond that a lot of it can be explained through Nepotism. 

now the problem is the massive fucking denial about it. just because jews run shit doesn't mean we have to kill them.

I don't see people denying that there are powerful Jewish people, I instead see people being like "Woah hold on there" when they make it about the entire group. 

As Piers Morgan of all people pointed out aptly enough, if you swap out a lot of what's being said with another race it becomes more apparent how racist it can appear through the language itself. If a post is saying you are going to go Defcon 5 on Jewish people, and you are a person who is otherwise treated as a role model for large bodies of people, then you would be held up to a higher standard than the average dude. 

it does mean we have to be on the lookout that their in-group preference isn't fucking everyone else over. 

It's not racist when it's done by name, or handled impartially. I don't see why this is so difficult for people, people were better about it before people suddenly felt like they were being told they're not supposed to talk about it. 

It's less about "The Jews" and more about racially framed language. Even with those in power in their community consolidating the wealth back towards them, that doesn't make them the majority. For the most part people know it's been a lot of Jewish last names in media and business, and you can easily talk about their history without it coming across as racist if you don't keep the phrasing too generalized. 

the fact that it's racist to even talk about that is a psyop

If you ask me, the fact that you're worried about how much you can't talk about Jewish people is the true Psyop, creating a rebellious sense of taboo that invites it to come up more. 

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I am Jewish. 

so this is why you are so good with numbers

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 Stop Jewing up my Elon thread !

Use the Jew threads or make one or something.

I don't see much controversy in your statements trypt. 

I am Jewish. 

I have spent a lot of time with Jews, both family and others via group gatherings and this doesn't really seem controversial to me. 

Jews prefer Jews, culturally, religiously, and materially. 

Jews spend a lot of time helping other Jews, its a big part of being Jewish. 

This puts Jews at an advantage given resources and support are easy to come by. 

This is not specific to Jews. I live in an area full of Amish now, and Amish are the richest people around here and they seem to reinforce each other the same way Jews do. 

Jewish culture is real and it its great for Jews and often pretty great for lots of others given Jews are charitable as a whole. Jews are also just people like everyone else, despite what some Jews may think, and as such the culture and our own success can lead us to trample on others knowingly and unknowingly. 

Every culture should have some self awareness in what makes it both good and bad. But hey maybe fuck all the rest of you at the same time. Maybe Jews should group together and fuck up nations in intentional ways. *Rubs hands together* 

I have never seen super bad Jews like hardcore white supremacists claims but its not like the culture can't hurt out groups in subtle ways. 

Is it reasonable to think that given we occupy a lot of positions of power that we may have a lot of influence and even have guided the system into what it is today to some degree culturally. If that turns out to be true, do we bare responsibility for the not so great systematic things that we have pushed forward under the influence of our own culture? 

No lets get down to brass tax, what are we going to do about the Hindus? 

 I wrote about that a few weeks ago when Kanye was a hot topic. How Jewish culture will buy from Jews first but will sell to anyone. Other cultures aren't so well established so the Jewish community has a bit of an advantage. That in itself isn't a bad thing. 

When it comes to the mainstream media, yeah it's dominated by Jewish people, and that spills over to politics, hence the largest donations to government candidates from any entity comes from high class Jews.

Power corrupts, even for powerful Jewish people ( Harvey Weinstein for example.  Jewish people were appointed by God to shed light, and they've been doing that, but there's a bit of a problem that should probably be looked at ) and we see agendas come into play, the mainstream media obviously has their plans, and for some time they have been known to smear anyone who goes against their agendas.

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As far as Kanye's concerns go, he knows Jewish producers can make changes and not allow Black people to showcase art of them destroying one another, in this monkey see monkey do world. 

The rise to power is fine, a culture giving one another a leg up into power, but they are also human beings and people can become corrupt in the process. This isn't meant to be anti semitic, but it is interesting how defensive those Jews in power can be whenever a person of influence calls them out.

It doesn't take much to be labeled anti semitic.

This clip is more about the state of the music industry surrounding black people as opposed to it being about Jewish people dominating, however they are the same people.  

                               

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I'll be monitoring this. Happening right now. 16 hour flight.

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EDIT: Shit man. Top G and Elon ? I want to go too. These are my people !

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Admirer said: 

 Stop Jewing up my Elon thread !

Use the Jew threads or make one or something.

/mfw Spatial is censoring Jewish posts. 

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AliceInWonderland said:
Is it reasonable to think that given we occupy a lot of positions of power that we may have a lot of influence and even have guided the system into what it is today to some degree culturally. If that turns out to be true, do we bare responsibility for the not so great systematic things that we have pushed forward under the influence of our own culture?


to the degree that the narrative being woven was to the benefit of jews and to the detriment of others. so for instance there is evidence that jews were planning on building multiculturalism in europe well before it happened. that seems like a weird calculus to me if jews weren't using it to mask their own separation from gentile culture. it's like multiculturalism--why, again? not every country wants to be a melting pot, even if some (germany/sweden/france/belgium/netherlands) buy the narrative for the short term because of guilt and sympathy (i.e. being headfucked into increasing your crime rates). paris syndrome or whatever it's called is probably so much stronger now than it was before

if jews are guilty of anything in modern times that is horrible, it would be that. now jon stewart recently was talking about the kanye shit and made a joke that he wasn't at the economic kabal or whatever to make some decision. obviously larry david wasn't behind 9/11 or the migrant crisis in europe, and i always implore people to make a judgment between an individual of an ethnicity and their culture. stereotypes exist for a reason, but rarely is anyone an archetype of what's bad about their culture. you being an intelligent woman who's funny and has accomplished a lot has helped me point out in fascist circles that not all jews are evil people

when it comes to responsibility, i think the easiest way forward for jews is explaining why they're concentrated where they are. like alright, if you're not supervillains, how are you so concentrated in hollywood, the legal realm, politics, etc. if it's just a game of manipulation to the end, then at least be a little more moderate in it. that's a joke, but a lot of people are really picking up on how this isn't an issue you can discuss. it's putting out the wrong energy, so people need to come out and clarify things. the black community isn't enjoying this dialogue; jews are about to end up in the crossfire the whites have been for a while. their narrative can't be "well there's just more of us there, are you antisemitic?"

as for the hindus, assign one woman to ride on a bus full of men a night until we have billions of them to fill up our army

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Hawk said: 

let it go down in the history books that you are the most politically correct and tolerant person, and nothing i ever said had any validity at all

What are you even talking about with this weirdly defeatist statement? 

You act like you're oppressed or something over what a few people did to a few other people. Just call on them by name, you don't have to appeal back to Hitler's hayday to justify your points

 yeah good job you got the most brownie points, call them all out by name

You really can't see my motivations being anything more than moralfaggotry, rather than discussing how to actually get the points across in a constructive way? 

 I addressed them as the Jews in power, and the arguments carried on with claims of antisemitism.

I don't remember it going that way personally, but this is also more towards Tryp who, for whatever reason, isn't falling into the nuance he usually would. 

yeah there are levels to nuance about it, this is why you're saying call out the individuals

because creating hate against a group isn't productive, the end goal is what, everyone hates jews now? ok nothing productive. so you're saying focus on the individuals

It creates the potential for other right wing adjacent groups to push alongside it, like layers of an onion. It opens the door for this sort of thing, purely based on how it's presented for what tone it's meant to elicit rather than being about the information itself: 

this is true, and personally i'm not really concerned about coming across this way because truly, what am i going to do, radicalize people here? in general directly calling out a group is kind of like lighting a molotov, but i'm not the one who set those gears in motion. i'm just here speaking plainly about the situation

Figure who already has a problem with the Jewish people, and how they might stand to benefit from a sudden surge of antisemitic sentiments. These kinds of times serve as the means of easing people into the deeper rhetoric, even if unintentionally, through generalizing much more broadly than is deserved.

yeah it sucks but there is usually some violent upheaval during reform. not on a mass scale, but in a targeted way. it's collateral for anger and effect on the collective scale. it's not going to be a holocaust though lol

but this time it's not a matter of individuals, it's a matter of culture. the jewish community has selective preference for each other, and they help escalate each other into power.

Which ones have the power that lends to them offering it to the rest though? 

The community are the ones accepting the cash, the ones benefiting from it, but that at most makes them complicit rather than directly responsible.

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they are also concentrated in the financial sector because, historically, this is what jews did to survive in europe. they are also concentrated in media for reasons i don't totally understand yet. when you line everything up, it's not a conspiracy theory, it's something right in front of you
How many of them though? 

 

It's a niche group that is giving back to the larger whole, that doesn't negate said niche. Beyond that a lot of it can be explained through Nepotism.

i don't have any stats off-hand but i know it's a pretty high concentration given their representation in the population. i'm having a beer and i don't want to be bothered, again consider that 50% of biden's cabinet is jewish. and you're right, it is nepotism, to a great degree, that's what i've been saying. the jewish community is tight-knit and they put fellow jews first

now the problem is the massive fucking denial about it. just because jews run shit doesn't mean we have to kill them.
I don't see people denying that there are powerful Jewish people, I instead see people being like "Woah hold on there" when they make it about the entire group. 

 

As Piers Morgan of all people pointed out aptly enough, if you swap out a lot of what's being said with another race it becomes more apparent how racist it can appear through the language itself. If a post is saying you are going to go Defcon 5 on Jewish people, and you are a person who is otherwise treated as a role model for large bodies of people, then you would be held up to a higher standard than the average dude.


but if it's part of their culture, you can't talk about jewish culture without saying jews

it does mean we have to be on the lookout that their in-group preference isn't fucking everyone else over. 
It's not racist when it's done by name, or handled impartially. I don't see why this is so difficult for people, people were better about it before people suddenly felt like they were being told they're not supposed to talk about it. 

 

It's less about "The Jews" and more about racially framed language. Even with those in power in their community consolidating the wealth back towards them, that doesn't make them the majority. For the most part people know it's been a lot of Jewish last names in media and business, and you can easily talk about their history without it coming across as racist if you don't keep the phrasing too generalized.


same response as above

 

 

the fact that it's racist to even talk about that is a psyop

If you ask me, the fact that you're worried about how much you can't talk about Jewish people is the true Psyop, creating a rebellious sense of taboo that invites it to come up more.

 

 i'm not worried about it, do you see where i socialize at? lol. i'm observing our culture

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sorry the last part got butchered, character limit should be 20,000

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