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Been looking into this as of late. But of course it leads back to viral transgender meltdowns over being correctly addressed as sir, or something along those lines, then the truth of their narcissism becomes self evident.

Legga is a grown man. In my opinion, having multiple realizations of one's gender to be different yet again signals confusion. It's important to note how Legga for one always boasted tolerance. However, when he claims to be a female, it only takes disagreeing with him once for him to have a narcissistic meltdown. The conversation then becomes more pretentious and bazaar as he starts to use opposite pronouns to make a statement.

Self love, but with a twist, the ideology of transgenderism is out there, some practice it, while others practice it with vigilance, while anyone who doesn't agree is deemed a bigot, or some kind of homophobe, or neither, because the argument has to do with what it means to be a genuine woman.

No one wants to be on the receiving end of mob mentality, so we see public figures like talk show hosts playing along with the transgenderism, calling bitter sweet and sweet bitter.

The transgender typically live lives of calamity and despair, it seems some of them have a hard time accepting that they are queer, while quite literally they will only be accepted by queer partners, which to them might come across as offensive cause it contradicts their narcissistic fantasy of being a genuine member of the opposite gender.

It is NPD. A mental illness. 

 

 

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Definite mental illness created by chemicals and drugs in the environment.

 

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Canary said: 

Been looking into this as of late. But of course it leads back to viral transgender meltdowns over being correctly addressed as sir, or something along those lines, then the truth of their narcissism becomes self evident.

You say narcissism, I say acquired trigger from their environment. If they were otherwise not questioned as much by their peers they wouldn't really be struggling as much, lending usually to a gunshy defensive reaction when someone hits the same areas those who hurt them did, even towards those without ill intent. 

Give it two decades and they will calm down over being a more normalized concept. I know a lot of why I feel afraid to dress the part in public is over how others could look at me as if in the Uncanny Valley, which is never easy to get used to, while if people were not judging with their eyes in ways that have me reflect on how harshly I judge myself in the mirror as a matter of projected belief I might not hide it as much. 

I am not proud of being trans, it still feels internally shameful over when and how I grew up, and compared to others I'd argue my trans views are more balanced over how much I otherwise didn't have to go through compared to other LGBTQ sufferers of societal bias. Growing up in California when I was young granted just enough balance to not have had to harden myself as those who feel stuck closing out a perceived enemy from their lives otherwise have. 

Legga is a grown man. In my opinion, having multiple realizations of one's gender to be different yet again signals confusion. It's important to note how Legga for one always boasted tolerance. However, when he claims to be a female, it only takes disagreeing with him once for him to have a narcissistic meltdown. The conversation then becomes more pretentious and bazaar as he starts to use opposite pronouns to make a statement. 

I've learned to take Legga claims with a grain of salt, dude says a lot of stuff. 

Still makes for the occasional fun thought exercise when s/he RPs though. 

Self love, but with a twist, the ideology of transgenderism is out there, some practice it, while others practice it with vigilance, while anyone who doesn't agree is deemed a bigot, or some kind of homophobe, or neither, because the argument has to do with what it means to be a genuine woman. 

As a trans person myself I can say the whole "did you just presume my gender!?" outrage is a bit ridiculous. Like shit, I get it wrong from time to time too as a part of the demographic. 

Again what matters is the intent. It's one thing to force the gender label on them, it's another to effectively guess wrong or fall into an old pattern if you knew them prior. 

There are right wing trannies too with divergent views from the norm. In some aspects they are clearly marketing themselves to their audience, but in others it's interesting to see what ends up offending a right wing tranny once they've begun judging 'their own kind' and find themselves being judged back

Also their trying to tolerate bigotry within their own party can be funny for microexpression moments. 

No one wants to be on the receiving end of mob mentality, so we see public figures like talk show hosts playing along with the transgenderism, calling bitter sweet and sweet bitter. 

It has to be somewhat forceful in order to not just fade a few months later with the trends of the time. We saw the same before with black rights activists, people in the marginalized position need to go loud from time to time to make sure they don't end up falling back into the same historical oppression they've been fighting to claw their way out of. 

The transgender typically live lives of calamity and despair, it seems some of them have a hard time accepting that they are queer, while quite literally they will only be accepted by queer partners, which to them might come across as offensive cause it contradicts their narcissistic fantasy of being a genuine member of the opposite gender. 

Okay when you say queer, do you mean over dating the gender they once were or over dating the gender they are attempting to become? 

It is NPD. A mental illness. 

It really depends on it's origin, there's a lot of reasons one might identify with the other gender both within disorders one's born with, ones acquired, and otherwise displayed in individuals with no other afflictions. 

Gender identity can be a funky thing within some disorders more than others, among them schizophrenia or dissociative problems. Others can end up identifying with the other over peer modeling, or how their natural chemical makeup had their peers take them as if more like the other gender in spite of even them trying to play along with their birth sex (as seen pre-LGBTQ). 

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I saw Transgenders that I respect, there are veeeery few, but it's not like they all explain themselves or I seek to hear them all out.

I'm not talking about just any Transgender, just the ones who have the audacity to insist they are what they claim to be and in doing so alienate the thoughts of others as they endlessly insist they are what they claim to be.

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Transgender calling out a predator who ditched his family of 10 others to identify as a 6 year old girl.

It's all makebelief. He starts acting differently. Keyword acting. It's awkward and I lose respect for people who play along with it. 

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I'm not talking about just any Transgender, just the ones who have the audacity to insist they are what they claim to be and in doing so alienate the thoughts of others as they endlessly insist they are what they claim to be.

For the sake of trying to understand where you draw the line, would you say I am insisting my gender on others? 

I agree with the alienation problem, but again I see it from many as a transference reaction to former pain. Some I've known got beaten up for it from having grown up somewhere less urban, and it's not like they can just shake those associations any more than someone who holds a grudge against all dogs after being traumatically bitten by one. 

Transgender calling out a predator who ditched his family of 10 others to identify as a 6 year old girl.

It's Blair White though, she is actually one of the ones where it's more interesting to see when she isn't just shilling towards the outrage demographic of her party. 

Every so often she'll be on with another person and they will not know how to respond to her being in their party but otherwise 'a deviant', it lends to her and others like her having to tolerate some pretty weird questions. 

Again I expect this to fade with more time, as the questions tend to still reflect a newness with the concept that has me think it hasn't truly sunk in yet. 

It's all makebelief.

The left tends to go with gender itself being a construct of society more than anything else, rendering even the heteronormative groups a byproduct of conditioning and society rather than how they might have been if thrown into the wilderness. 

 
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I'm not talking about just any Transgender, just the ones who have the audacity to insist they are what they claim to be and in doing so alienate the thoughts of others as they endlessly insist they are what they claim to be.

For the sake of trying to understand where you draw the line, would you say I am insisting my gender on others? 

Not that I recall.

I've referred to you as a bisexual crossdresser, since you were banging a woman, and you never showcased a meltdown over it.

You don't worry about pronouns either. Though I'm pretty sure the ones who refer to you as a she, are the ones you'd find more vulnerable to psychological manipulation.


I agree with the alienation problem, but again I see it from many as a transference reaction to former pain. Some I've known got beaten up for it from having grown up somewhere less urban, and it's not like they can just shake those associations any more than someone who holds a grudge against all dogs after being traumatically bitten by one. 

In my culture we get beat if we do something stupid. As children we can recognize the difference between discipline and abuse. That is why we got beat. We grow up without any resentment over that, while people who were beat for dumb reasons grow up to resent their parents.

If you hate being corrected then you're ruined and not ready to perform in the world which will break you.

Also I get along with dogs fine. I'm the beastmaster.

 

Transgender calling out a predator who ditched his family of 10 others to identify as a 6 year old girl.

It's Blair White though, she is actually one of the ones where it's more interesting to see when she isn't just shilling towards the outrage demographic of her party. 

Every so often she'll be on with another person and they will not know how to respond to her being in their party but otherwise 'a deviant', it lends to her and others like her having to tolerate some pretty weird questions. 

Again I expect this to fade with more time, as the questions tend to still reflect a newness with the concept that has me think it hasn't truly sunk in yet. 

Yeah.

What do you make of an old man pretending to be a 6 year old ? When asked I'd say it's veeeeery dysfunctional and self destructive.  The man ( if he's still alive ) will be miserable. Personally I haven't the nerve to participate and call him a she.

It's all makebelief.

The left tends to go with gender itself being a construct of society more than anything else, rendering even the heteronormative groups a byproduct of conditioning and society rather than how they might have been if thrown into the wilderness. 

 That's all queer stuff. Some queers call him she and vice versa while other queers don't buy it either.

The people transgenders date will be queer.

People in general aren't interested in homosexuality, it's disgusting to most of us. The left is all about gay rights but not really cause they don't complain about queers being executed in places they are actually oppressed. 

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Hawk said:
Turncoat said:
Hawk said:

I'm not talking about just any Transgender, just the ones who have the audacity to insist they are what they claim to be and in doing so alienate the thoughts of others as they endlessly insist they are what they claim to be.

For the sake of trying to understand where you draw the line, would you say I am insisting my gender on others? 

Not that I recall.

I've referred to you as a bisexual crossdresser, since you were banging a woman, and you never showcased a meltdown over it.

You don't worry about pronouns either. Though I'm pretty sure the ones who refer to you as a she, are the ones you'd find more vulnerable to psychological manipulation.

It's really more about the intent, even someone going out of their way to say 'she' to me could be doing it tongue-in-cheek. I find insisting my pronoun at people to be ruder than someone getting it wrong, and I see which they call me as a sort of litmus test for their views, especially those who call me 'she' when cool with me and 'he' when angry. 🤣

Honestly I find the occasional 'excuse me ma'am' from a stranger to be more flattering and ticklish than anything. It's unexpected each time and has happened without me dressing the part, which gives hope for a few minutes before it passes. 

I agree with the alienation problem, but again I see it from many as a transference reaction to former pain. Some I've known got beaten up for it from having grown up somewhere less urban, and it's not like they can just shake those associations any more than someone who holds a grudge against all dogs after being traumatically bitten by one. 

In my culture we get beat if we do something stupid. As children we can recognize the difference between discipline and abuse. That is why we got beat. We grow up without any resentment over that, while people who were beat for dumb reasons grow up to resent their parents. 

Two things here: 

A. When it's your parents that's one thing, when it's your peers or randos on the street it's another thing entirely. The pain both gave them triggers and emboldened their choices into riskier ones than they may have otherwise done without society otherwise ostracizing them. 

B. How a kid reacts to getting 'beat' by their folks varies strongly from kid to kid, and how the parent emotes does a lot for it too. If the parent looks emotional then the kid will start to think that it's okay to hit people out of emotion, while if done coldly it is more likely to alienate the child from their parents from what I've seen come from many. 

The ones who accept the beatings tend to do so for one of two reasons: They believe they deserved it and have turned into someone who worries and blames themselves for many other things outside of their control, or they've grown to have the same tendencies as their folks and in turn excuse them for it by proxy of excusing themselves for it. 

If you hate being corrected then you're ruined and not ready to perform in the world which will break you.

Being raised in the arts definitely has me agreeing with you there, critique has been around me my entire life and people didn't take as much offense to it when it seemed normal to them when compared to your average person. 

...as a double edged sword though I project as if everyone is looking as hard at people's features in a correcting fashion as I am, similar to the problem Contrapoints described when she'd post herself on 4chan to get torn to shreds as some kind of validation for all her self-directed toxicity. 

What do you make of an old man pretending to be a 6 year old?

As a personal thing, I find that more disturbing than when they try to make out that they are other things. 

Dogs, if not other Otherkin (rather than furries, very different)? Sure, that's harmless even if weird, and many go into it more for the sense of community while hating on humanity as a concept that, in turn, lets them feel more human with other people of the same beliefs. It also pushes the art community, so I can't really complain too much there beyond personal preference (until it turns fetishy anyway). That community is so damn depressed that they need eachother. 

An adult sized baby? Depends on the circumstances, as many just reserve it for their at home behavior or don't mention to people that they have a diaper on under their clothes.

Elves? Weird... but I don't see that person harming others and there's liable to be crowds that are otherwise accepting of it. 



Children... like I understand missing your youth and wanting to go back, I've seen people go pretty hardcore with the Peter Pan message of 'never growing up', and similar to the baby thing if they keep that behavior to their homes then they aren't really hurting anyone... but if someone is trying to pretend to be a child so that they can be around other children that hits some areas for me that make me uncomfortable

I can understand trans people coming in dressed up to read childrens stories to kids, having grown up in California I saw a fair deal of drag both in the theater (ie: Beach Blanket Babylon) and in general, but if they were to try to identify as a children to play with strangers children at the playground as 'one of them' then that is direct interaction as opposed to a display or presentation. 

I don't care what people believe themselves to be for the most part, no one should be messing with kids through things like direct contact. 

When asked I'd say it's veeeeery dysfunctional and self destructive. 

In general I find age play disturbing, calling your S.O. 'Daddy' is super disturbing to me, but I also recognize that as my own bias and that it's surprisingly common. 

It's all makebelief.

The left tends to go with gender itself being a construct of society more than anything else, rendering even the heteronormative groups a byproduct of conditioning and society rather than how they might have been if thrown into the wilderness. 

That's all queer stuff. Some queers call him she and vice versa while other queers don't buy it either. 

So I take it you haven't tried to follow the whole 'differences between sex and gender' concept? 

At least for those accepting of such practices, they go on about how sex is what you're born with while gender is what you identify as, saying the former has biological factors while the latter is a societally reinforced concept that, without society, may have gone differently. 

The people transgenders date will be queer.

So if it was someone who once looked the part of a woman and became a man through the modern process, you'd consider the person queer regardless of which of the two were dated? 

You in the very same post referred to be as bisexual, which is the case, but to be clear on your terminology would you call bisexuality queer over how it dips into the pool? 

People in general aren't interested in homosexuality, it's disgusting to most of us.

There's people who find it hot without even wanting to date it, like when a woman finds another woman's boobs sexy at a party without otherwise switching teams. 

The left is all about gay rights but not really cause they don't complain about queers being executed in places they are actually oppressed. 

Wouldn't it make more sense to focus on our own country before trying to go at other ones? 

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The daddy thing in sex, that shit works. It's because the word "daddy" is mostly used by females, and sex is an act that makes a man into a Father.

In the west, gays have all kinds of privileges. Transgenders and some queer folks have additional discrimination laws, like getting fined for mispronouning whatever they claim to be.

As for the rest of us, including most queers by a landslide, we know a female when we see one. Even the blind can identify one's gender cause she'll sound like a genuine female, as it so happens that women sound like women, men sound like men, while the false genders sound and look like either of the 2 genders. Unless of course the person mutilated themselves with hormone drugs.

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We're going to see more cases like this unlike anytime in history. I don't think it'll last long, it's not cool to give this to children.

I saw another case where the detransitioned woman claims to be a default woman but is stuck sounding like a dude.

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The daddy thing in sex, that shit works. It's because the word "daddy" is mostly used by females, and sex is an act that makes a man into a Father.

That's... a very optimistic take. Is that how you imagine it's working for pimp culture? 

In general it's more of a power word, but the power it pulls on is familial which disturbs me. There's a lot of differences between 'The Father' and 'DAH-DEY', and before kink began normalizing more the ones who did it more often tended to either have an abusive or absent father figure. 

In the west, gays have all kinds of privileges. Transgenders and some queer folks have additional discrimination laws, like getting fined for mispronouning whatever they claim to be. 

That doesn't really change the life they lived up to that point, nothing will. 

This is why I largely believe the solution is time, as those with the loudest damages will phase out naturally while the concept being normalized will allow it to apply with less of a sense of novelty behind it. 

Once it's completely normal to be able to change your gender, less people will do it. A lot of the complaints now are over the uncanny valley, the idea of putting makeup on a pig, but imagine how it'll be once sex change work is impossible to distinguish from natural results. 

As for the rest of us, including most queers by a landslide, we know a female when we see one.

...the ones who tend to see it the most are the ones who are themselves sensitive to it. The same eye they'd use to critique others tends to also turn inwards. 

Trans people can tear other trans people to shreds over being able to pull at the same insecurity (Or as I think Contrapoints called it, Ingroup Cringe). Once the need to promote tolerance is no longer needed there's going to be some nasty infighting, as it's from what experiences that we have in common that we have the room to deal the most harm with. 

The same sensitivity an MtF would have over the adam's apple, shoulder line, having too much muscle, wearing clothes that "don't work", poorly done makeup, a hint of stubble, a voice that doesn't pass, a walk that doesn't pass, the wrong posture, too small of breasts, lacking the upper arm fat that women naturally have... imagine that being directed at someone they hate, rather than themselves. 

Even the blind can identify one's gender cause she'll sound like a genuine female, as it so happens that women sound like women, men sound like men, while the false genders sound and look like either of the 2 genders.

There's voice training for that, and some men are lucky enough to have a voice that wouldn't take anything more than a shift in inflection. 

Women meanwhile if they go the hormones route will actually have their voices deepen, and even if not the male range is easier to imitate. 

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