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It is pretty graphic, but it is what it is. People overreacted when they saw it cause well, it's pretty graphic.

It's really not that graphic. 

They might be paid off, but my impression even before the link you just posted is that it looks like kink shit. 

 Shut the fuck up when I'm talking to Lena.

People never seem prepared to have me agree with them... /smh

Also I believe she was talking to me. 😏

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You still suck though. 

 

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Lenalee said: 

13 minutes in so far, and the debate's... kinda bad. The two really need a moderator to keep the two on track, as Piers trying to make his points at the same time as trying to reign in Tate's ADD is what's lending to the two constantly talking over eachother. 

Normally a host would invite someone to take the other stance while, as the host, moderate their discussion and throw in some words of his or her own from time to time. 

While Tate was caught in trying to worm out of making a direct statement, this could have been resolved a lot faster with someone peacekeeping the conversation. While compliments seem to pacify Andy, any time Piers suggests that Tate is struggling with anything he immediately has to interrupt him to assure him otherwise, it actually makes him unable to keep quiet and as a result muddies the ability to communicate further. 


16 minutes in: The audacity, to call Piers on interrupting him when he's been the sole interrupter from the start. Piers is to blame for repeatedly triggering Tate's need to defend his own intelligence, but Tate is near-contradicting himself over one point he won't explain out loud fully: That he feels entitled to his beliefs but also believes that he should phrase it more politically correctly. His defense boils down to "Well I didn't expect to become the most googled man, I would have said things differently".

Piers... did kinda catch him there though with him comparing legal authority over children to authority over one's wife. Bad format or not it is interesting to see him try to get Tate to give a straight answer on if a woman is or isn't meant to be his sub. The struggle here is that Tate is trying to present as a brand, while Piers is trying to present him as an individual. 


17:30 into it: Why won't Tate just say he's a dom, like holy shit. He is trying to explain the idea of a sub granting authority over them to their dom but he is refusing to use kink language. If he'd just call on it for the kink it is people would get it, this even calls back to what got him in trouble on Big Brother when he was consensually beating a woman with a belt. 🤦

 Was he consensually beating her with a belt?

He smacks her face and beats her with his belt.

Notice she's wearing her sexy suit. 

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This video surfaced at the time Andrew was on the show Big Brother UK and he ended up getting kicked off.

Today the video goes around more than ever, and we see some youtubers making long rants about it. 

It is pretty graphic, but it is what it is. People overreacted when they saw it cause well, it's pretty graphic.

Haters will hate, while for some of us, the truth prevails. 

 

 

 While i understand that she later claims it wasn't serious and it was just a bit, what's going on in that video isn't consensual, she might have been there for a sexy time but the explosive anger when she's not said something right doesn't seem an act. Dudes gotten lump in the head, no doubt at least some sort of tbi.




Even if they truly believe it's kink, every community has predators willing to take advantage of others. 

He reacts like a child, he truly do be hating women and he knows there's a bunch of sad men that need to feel validated from a male figure that also hates women.

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Lenalee said:
While i understand that she later claims it wasn't serious and it was just a bit, what's going on in that video isn't consensual, she might have been there for a sexy time but the explosive anger when she's not said something right doesn't seem an act. Dudes gotten lump in the head, no doubt at least some sort of tbi.

He reacts like a child, he truly do be hating women and he knows there's a bunch of sad men that need to feel validated from a male figure that also hates women.
I'd argue this is more a reflection of his former home life, having seen other men who had a near-absent father figure of an abusively misogynistic home. Every time he talks about his mother and father there's clearly issues there, his father was also an inner-emasculated pain fetishist who cheated on his wife repeatedly and showed her no respect, vanishing for long periods of time while the kids felt in charge. He acts like a child because that's when he got stuck, that and a disorder like ADD making it hard to chill. His dad had similar issues from a different mindset, a lot of this could very easily be parental modeling. Even in Tales of Wudan, his Monk roleplay, his father is essentially the grandmaster and his first lesson to him is pain, literally hitting him in the head so that he'd bleed and "appreciate his first pure thought". 

She seemed fine with a camera showing this, and even tried to follow his instructions when nothing had happened yet. The two talked like they have an understanding that she gets 'disciplined' when not doing what he wants, and while a lot of people aren't into that some people are. There's also times that, in an otherwise working kink situation, that the partner with the power may take it somewhere bad. The question I more have is how often he'd be like that and what her feelings on it are, as even being reduced to crying on film is not an indication of consent, I've cried from kink and I would say I didn't suddenly forfeit consent, and that while sometimes my partners may have gone too far in the moment or as some kind of transference that I could see it was not otherwise the norm, and while not excusable in the smaller frame can be forgiven and worked past as a part of the bigger picture. 

Again, from a kink POV I'd say the emotion he's putting behind it isn't healthy, it's clear that he's using this to get other shit out of his system, but I don't think his partners are being blindsided by this. What throws me is over how the slap looks unrestrained, yet the hair pulling is controlled and his belt strikes weren't full force. It's obviously about power and control, but again I am left wondering what her feelings on this are over if she agreed to this for a monetary incentive, if she agreed to it out of sheer kink dynamic, or if she'd been groomed into this ala "Imprinting" as he calls it, seeing as he prefers 18-19 year olds so he can train them like something out of 50 Shades. 

Even if they truly believe it's kink, every community has predators willing to take advantage of others. 

Very true, and some on the receiving end can end up accepting some pretty bad things from a lack of research on it too, from a lack of comparison to other partners, which is Tate's go to. He's also more than rich enough to pay them off, and at least the partner making the video all like "I consented guys, I said this already so stop" has me thinking she's seen his off camera sensitivity and uses it to excuse his outbursts, as it doesn't look like when someone just wants to put it behind them but rather as someone annoyed that people keep mixing it up and trying to defend her over it. She doesn't read like it's shame like abuse victims otherwise tend to flash when talking about it. 

The predatory types who try to abuse the kink community are hard to sus out if their partners do not report it, and thankfully there are communities where they can post their stories to help others avoid a similar fate, but yeah I've seen some messy people try to make furry harems and abuse dens out of "it's just a fetish". 

I bet he doesn't bother with aftercare either, but if he does we will never see it as it'd be him looking weak. 


Clip Review: 

1: Showing off bruises, classic Kink shit. I have seen this tons of times on Fetlife and have with multiple partners even shown off my own. Again the question becomes over if she's been conditioned into accepting abuse, which would fit Tate's "imprinting" idea, or if on some level she's into this which I have seen from other people. If she doesn't like it but keeps that to herself, there's not much we can really do other than speculate, since her face keeps being hard to see clearly. 

It's worth keeping in mind too that the dude is used to going through women like used tissue, calling it "Exercise", before he'd pimp them out to other men and collect 75% of the profits (which is likely why Tate was weird when Piers asked him how many times he's been in love). This could just as easily be pimp conditioning with us only seeing the earlier stuff (something he teaches to all his bros at Hustler University and The War Room). There is enough context here to claim it's not just kinky shit but it still looks like it. 


2: This really reads to me like kink shit when I look at her, she even goes to fetch his 'Pimp Stick', while questionable content when I look at him. He leaves the minute he sees baggage and problems from having no patience for it, preferring to be with people who don't have any idea how a man acts, and with how young he tries to nab them he could very well be that baggage and problems, but with how much money he has it's difficult to know. 

Tate: "Why does your ass have a bruise on it?"

Her: "Because daddy hits me." 

Tate: "Why would he hit you?"

Her: "Because I'm his whore and he does that." 

Really looking like kink shit, her posture shows an acceptance of this rather than flinching like an abuse victim too. If he'd just call it domming and sadism this would not look as bad, but he keeps trying to couch it as "Traditional Masculinity". 


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Looks like the clip I posted but a little more clear. Still hard to tell how she feels about it as she seem like one prone to shutting down, which could be abuse or entering Subspace. 


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last edit on 10/8/2022 12:04:42 PM
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Fuckin wall o text jesus

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Logan Paul and Mike Majlak used to be pro- Andrew Tate who you are sooooo in love with, but the second that the general public turned against Andrew Tate guess who followed ?  Logan Paul and even more loudly and aggressively Mike Majlak,  the person you are defending, yeah they both aggressively turned against Andrew tate just to maintain their "fame"  (especially fame in quotes on Michael's behalf because barely anyone knows who he is or pays attention to him, but he is still a sellout its just the best that he can do even as a sellout is not many subscribers compared to like actual celebrities and social media influencers that he spends time around)

 

just saying,  you support and defend sellouts and people who aggressively turn against and shun the people that you claim to love the most  and what does this say about you as a person do you think ?  (if Special Mind thinks much at all instead of just talks out if his ass all of the time,  that is)

 

 

last edit on 10/8/2022 8:27:34 PM
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Another one.

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This one had me in stitches cause I was in a motorcycle accident too. ( Ex break checked me )

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Logan Paul and Mike Majlak used to be pro- Andrew Tate who you are sooooo in love with, but the second that the general public turned against Andrew Tate guess who followed ?  Logan Paul and even more loudly and aggressively Mike Majlak,  the person you are defending, yeah they both aggressively turned against Andrew tate just to maintain their "fame"  (especially fame in quotes on Michael's behalf because barely anyone knows who he is or pays attention to him, but he is still a sellout its just the best that he can do even as a sellout is not many subscribers compared to like actual celebrities and social media influencers that he spends time around)

That is true.

It also leaves room for.... The biggest fighting event in all of history doesn't it ? Even you would watch that.

KSI beat Logan once at boxing, let's see what KSI has to say about Tate...

There really is no point in Logan Paul fighting Andrew Tate.

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Jake has a better chance at beating Tate, he is so far undefeated, already he beat a UFC fighter in the ring and is still undefeated with 5-0. Jake has a lot of potential.

 

Fight Logan first. For the big views and money I see. It's what people want to see. Then after he can fight Jake.

If Tristan Tate came in... It's not even funny what will happen to the Paul Brothers, Tristan is a kickboxing champion too.

 
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Oh hey, he has an entry on Kiwifarms. 

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/andrew-tate-top-g-cobratate.127428/

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