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There's a difference between preserving the male archetype and Tate's message. He isn't just selling the idea of self-improvement, there's a lot of other shit in there like how you shouldn't wear headphones outside or you'll become a target for random attacks,

That's reasonable. While our hearing is impaired we're vulnerable to not just attacks but we're more accident prone. If for example a maniac is driving on the sidewalk running down pedestrians, one with headphones might not even respond.

You don't find it a bit paranoid to be acting like you're going to be attacked at any time over how aggressive you're displaying yourself... when you could otherwise just be less aggressive?

You're straying away from the point. The point is wearing headphones in public impairs one of your senses, not over how aggressive one is. The aggressive thing is something you just added, so you fail again. Like said. Waste of time.

 

The guy would seem afraid and overcompensating from the words alone over this if he wasn't practically ADHD in his presentation, as he really talks about it a lot. 

He translates everything through aggression, literally everything.

You don't watch his content. You ONLY watch Tate through the eyes of some biased report. I already posted evidence of him remaining calm while being attacked.

His entire idea of how to make money, and success in general, is over telling people they aren't good enough over and over like how his father raised him, and he can't keep that belief to himself over 'alpha status'.

Fucking right they aren't good enough. Man needs to train to raise his vibration. 

Do you want me to tell you you've got it made Nathan ?

Andrew Tate is a raid. If you can't handle it then simply stay back and do not participate. But, the for the men who do participate, they'll be working on their health and wealth and game.

 

Again he thinks it's weakness to do anything else but go figure that might push someone to fight him when he says everyone beneath his current networth is a failure, to their faces. 

He pretty much says whatever makes us happy we should do. In most cases for a man to be happy, he must become competent, strong body strong mind. If it makes you as an individual to do nothing, then do nothing, but the majority of guys ( who are invisible to women ) they want to score. With hard work in turn they'll find a woman who's happy with them while he's a better catch. This is reality. 

 

or how to teach a woman to "respect a man" through heinous shit that makes it sound more like training an animal, poorly. 

You need to be more specific, you're being vague by passing off labels like "heinous." 

Are you saying you are fine with how he both says and displays that women should be treated?

You're being vague again. I can tell you how he actually treats women. But you'll repeat what you were programmed to do. Like dude. Cancel culture. You're not even thinking for yourself all you have to offer is opinionated footage.

 



You've seen his material, you must know it right? I figure with your familiarity with him in the interest of preserving your attention span that I ought to save you the time, and again he pushes more than even just manosphere ideas which makes him worth separating from the herd instead of being all 'oh poor men' over the guy. 

lol you said "Manosphere ideas" 

That's one of the issues in the world today. Where they want to make men out to be some kind of evil in the world when it truth most men by a landslide either mind their own business or are polite to women. That includes the Tate Brothers. Their girls love them, and they have many.

 



How would you describe the way he views women, compared to other men's views of women? To clarify I plan to post a combination of some of his boasts and the allegations following it after you've given your view. 

You claim not to watch my links, but then expect me to watch your biased cut and edited links. Bring your edits.

Here's one with Andrew

If you ask me the couple that treat one another like property while unmarried in this day and age will go long and far.

A man can be a man without being heinous, but not according to Tate. To do anything else he claims is showing weakness, you're supposed to be aggressive all the fucking time if you listen to his rhetoric so that people know to respect you. 

 Gee Nate. Men should follow your advice, you're such a hit with the ladies and all the fellas. 

Why should any masculine guy pay attention to the self made Tate Brothers. Both kick boxing champions, living the playboy millionaire life, when we can all turn to you for tips on how to get laid and get a life.

There's tons of people they ought to follow who aren't Andy Tate, I am not advertising myself. You don't have to be selling a better alternative to recognize when someone else is selling poison, literally buying nothing is the better option. That's like saying you ought to buy Dr. Oz's snake oil scams over how I don't sell medicine myself. 

Even worse, if we're to believe he actually wrote The Tales of Wudan rather than hiring some ghost writer, then on some level he sees the problem and still made this choice

 Hearsay and bias. Vague labels and backward opinions. No substance. What you responded to there isn't an opinion.

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I like how the Andrew Tate gets censored by the now mainstream big bot tech. Within 48 hours ! Some of you don't even question this. Where Government will turn to big tech and say "why aren't you censoring this person".

You don't question why does the Taliban or even the Iran Government have Twitter accounts, but they want to ban some dude advocating for men's health.

Ya'll have your queer and woke material. It's not very popular, but it's being shoved down our throats nonetheless. If you enjoy it then good for you. This one is for men, the young men of today. Live longer, be stronger. maintain relationships. Get hard. 

 

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Turncoat said:

There's a difference between preserving the male archetype and Tate's message. He isn't just selling the idea of self-improvement, there's a lot of other shit in there like how you shouldn't wear headphones outside or you'll become a target for random attacks,

That's reasonable. While our hearing is impaired we're vulnerable to not just attacks but we're more accident prone. If for example a maniac is driving on the sidewalk running down pedestrians, one with headphones might not even respond.

You don't find it a bit paranoid to be acting like you're going to be attacked at any time over how aggressive you're displaying yourself... when you could otherwise just be less aggressive?

You're straying away from the point. The point is wearing headphones in public impairs one of your senses, not over how aggressive one is. The aggressive thing is something you just added, so you fail again. Like said. Waste of time.

No, the point is how that contributes to the rest of his narrative. Focusing only on the headphones is thinking too small and ignores why he is going on about it in conjunction with the rest of his anger/fear narrative. 

The guy would seem afraid and overcompensating from the words alone over this if he wasn't practically ADHD in his presentation, as he really talks about it a lot. 

He translates everything through aggression, literally everything.

You don't watch his content. You ONLY watch Tate through the eyes of some biased report. I already posted evidence of him remaining calm while being attacked.

Dude, his channel on it's own is enough. The dude's hyper, it's hard for him to contain himself, so rather than be chill he goes with aggression in the form of pride statements. 

His entire idea of how to make money, and success in general, is over telling people they aren't good enough over and over like how his father raised him, and he can't keep that belief to himself over 'alpha status'.

Fucking right they aren't good enough. Man needs to train to raise his vibration. 

I'm telling you that having the bar at $30mil is unrealistic, and otherwise a tool he uses to shut people down. 

Do you want me to tell you you've got it made Nathan ?

No, I'm telling you that Andrew Tate's a messed up dude who is focused almost entirely on aggression. 

Really ought to stop trying to put words in my mouth, and your use of the first name as usual denotes your own aggression. 

Andrew Tate is a raid. If you can't handle it then simply stay back and do not participate. But, the for the men who do participate, they'll be working on their health and wealth and game.

The dude's a joke who learned to monetize it towards a niche audience of people who will never live up to his image, I'm going to keep laughing. 

Again he thinks it's weakness to do anything else but go figure that might push someone to fight him when he says everyone beneath his current networth is a failure, to their faces. 

He pretty much says whatever makes us happy we should do.

Not really... he has a pretty big list of don'ts, like reading

In most cases for a man to be happy, he must become competent, strong body strong mind. If it makes you as an individual to do nothing, then do nothing, but the majority of guys ( who are invisible to women ) they want to score. With hard work in turn they'll find a woman who's happy with them while he's a better catch. This is reality. 

You must not really be absorbing Tate's material beyond how his fans over-rationalize his message. 

You've seen his material, you must know it right? I figure with your familiarity with him in the interest of preserving your attention span that I ought to save you the time, and again he pushes more than even just manosphere ideas which makes him worth separating from the herd instead of being all 'oh poor men' over the guy. 

lol you said "Manosphere ideas" 

Yes?

Before we go on, what do you think 'The Manosphere' is? 

That's one of the issues in the world today. Where they want to make men out to be some kind of evil in the world when it truth most men by a landslide either mind their own business or are polite to women. That includes the Tate Brothers. Their girls love them, and they have many.

You mean the ones he was pimping out for 75%? 

How would you describe the way he views women, compared to other men's views of women? To clarify I plan to post a combination of some of his boasts and the allegations following it after you've given your view. 

You claim not to watch my links, but then expect me to watch your biased cut and edited links. Bring your edits. 

I'm only not watching them for the moment out of being lazy, I am not against watching his content and have seen it on my own as well. 

If you ask me the couple that treat one another like property while unmarried in this day and age will go long and far.

Men aren't property in the Tate mindset, he thinks women talking to other men is cheating over how they are emotional creatures, while if he goes out and fucks a woman while not loving her then it's "Just Exercise". 

Come on dude, he's basically a pimp who learned to TikTok and optimize Discord into a Pyramid Scheme. 

I like how the Andrew Tate gets censored by the now mainstream big bot tech. Within 48 hours ! Some of you don't even question this. Where Government will turn to big tech and say "why aren't you censoring this person".

Yeah I don't agree with censoring him for the same reasoning I think Alex Jones should have been able to stay on. 

You don't question why does the Taliban or even the Iran Government have Twitter accounts, but they want to ban some dude advocating for men's health.

"Men's Health", lol the guy's not pushing supplements dude he's pushing a lifestyle. 

Ya'll have your queer and woke material. It's not very popular, but it's being shoved down our throats nonetheless. If you enjoy it then good for you. This one is for men, the young men of today. Live longer, be stronger. maintain relationships. Get hard. 

It's for abusers looking for justification who wish they were richer, he is not conflatable with others of the male agenda and honestly, men shouldn't want this being what represents them it's embarrassing. 

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or how to teach a woman to "respect a man" through heinous shit that makes it sound more like training an animal, poorly. 

You need to be more specific, you're being vague by passing off labels like "heinous." 

Are you saying you are fine with how he both says and displays that women should be treated?

You're being vague again. I can tell you how he actually treats women.

Then do it? 

Simple question: Do you support Tate's treatment and rhetoric over women, yes or no? You're welcome to explain your answer as much as you want, but the yes/no is the minimum I am asking for here. 

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last edit on 10/6/2022 7:16:02 PM
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Turncoat said:

There's a difference between preserving the male archetype and Tate's message. He isn't just selling the idea of self-improvement, there's a lot of other shit in there like how you shouldn't wear headphones outside or you'll become a target for random attacks,

That's reasonable. While our hearing is impaired we're vulnerable to not just attacks but we're more accident prone. If for example a maniac is driving on the sidewalk running down pedestrians, one with headphones might not even respond.

You don't find it a bit paranoid to be acting like you're going to be attacked at any time over how aggressive you're displaying yourself... when you could otherwise just be less aggressive?

You're straying away from the point. The point is wearing headphones in public impairs one of your senses, not over how aggressive one is. The aggressive thing is something you just added, so you fail again. Like said. Waste of time.

No, the point is how that contributes to the rest of his narrative. Focusing only on the headphones is thinking too small and ignores why he is going on about it in conjunction with the rest of his anger/fear narrative. 

This is such a dumb argument. I don't like slow Nate. We'll review it one more time.

To be fair he said.

- "Now you may live in a safe area, but if you're watching this from England, you don't live in a safe place, people get stabbed all the fucking time"

- He's been Jumped 4 times, and each time he didn't see it coming, but he heard it. That was the little time we have to react.

What's so invalid with this ? I don't disagree, people have also gotten into accidents countless times because they were tuning into their headphones while in public.

Is it not common sense ? And I get it, you're going to be like "Oh but it's how he said it" cause you're emasculated, but not all of us are.

 

The guy would seem afraid and overcompensating from the words alone over this if he wasn't practically ADHD in his presentation, as he really talks about it a lot. 

He translates everything through aggression, literally everything.

You don't watch his content. You ONLY watch Tate through the eyes of some biased report. I already posted evidence of him remaining calm while being attacked.

Dude, his channel on it's own is enough. The dude's hyper, it's hard for him to contain himself, so rather than be chill he goes with aggression in the form of pride statements. 

His channel where ? On Rumble ? It hardly has any videos. And no he's often calm. He has moods and tones. Tristan is surely the more reserved of the two. Not everyone will judge someone because they are hyperactive. These men speak the raw truth.

His entire idea of how to make money, and success in general, is over telling people they aren't good enough over and over like how his father raised him, and he can't keep that belief to himself over 'alpha status'.

Fucking right they aren't good enough. Man needs to train to raise his vibration. 

I'm telling you that having the bar at $30mil is unrealistic, and otherwise a tool he uses to shut people down. 

It's not about shutting people down, it's about motivating them. Basically every single person in his life, aside from his own Brother aren't rich. 

The Tate Brothers are fun. Period.

 

Do you want me to tell you you've got it made Nathan ?

No, I'm telling you that Andrew Tate's a messed up dude who is focused almost entirely on aggression. 

You're telling me that ? In SC right now, the most aggressive person is you. You tried to destroy me, more than once Nathan. Lately you've lied about what I've done to people here, ( people who don't even exist ).

As for the Tate Brothers, they see a lot of things the same way I do. His views on depression are the same as mine. How we can cure ourselves with just knowledge. It's true. I did it myself. I called it the Process of Self Transformation.

And you, want to tell me, they are aggressive. Aggression in itself isn't a bad thing. It's intent.

 



Really ought to stop trying to put words in my mouth, and your use of the first name as usual denotes your own aggression. 

People call me Tony all the time, you don't see me crying about it. You simply don't like the fact that I know who you are. Maybe the difference between you and I, is people who address me by my real name, do so endearingly.

 

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16000 characters. I honestly don't care to fix the quotes, cause it's 2022 and that shit should be done already so fuck this

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Andrew Tate is a raid. If you can't handle it then simply stay back and do not participate. But, the for the men who do participate, they'll be working on their health and wealth and game.

The dude's a joke who learned to monetize it towards a niche audience of people who will never live up to his image, I'm going to keep laughing. 
Still one of the most Googled people of all time. I'm not competing with Tate, but I will be a billionaire. Most guys won't, but there's no reason to stop striving for goals that makes a man more valuable to women.

You'll laugh from your parents basement and do nothing for self improvement while you mock anyone who dares to try.

 

Again he thinks it's weakness to do anything else but go figure that might push someone to fight him when he says everyone beneath his current networth is a failure, to their faces. 

 

 

He pretty much says whatever makes us happy we should do.

 

Not really... he has a pretty big list of don'ts, like reading. 

 

I'm the same. I don't read books either. I like pictures and action. 

Video is better, we learn easier by examples and speech. It's like a crystal ball man. I take pride in my supercomputers that I built from watching and listening. I don't want to read romance, I want to see romance. Graphics. This is but a preference.



 

 

In most cases for a man to be happy, he must become competent, strong body strong mind. If it makes you as an individual to do nothing, then do nothing, but the majority of guys ( who are invisible to women ) they want to score. With hard work in turn they'll find a woman who's happy with them while he's a better catch. This is reality. 
You must not really be absorbing Tate's material beyond how his fans over-rationalize his message.
 
Yeah. See I'm served Andrew Tate, from channels like Millionaires club, I get raw clips, while you, are served bias bullshit. I get the message, because I see a part of myself in the Tate Brothers. I made that clear.



You've seen his material, you must know it right? I figure with your familiarity with him in the interest of preserving your attention span that I ought to save you the time, and again he pushes more than even just manosphere ideas which makes him worth separating from the herd instead of being all 'oh poor men' over the guy. 
lol you said "Manosphere ideas" 
Yes?

Before we go on, what do you think 'The Manosphere' is? 


It's a belief that men of various outlooks on life are bundled up together to make up some type of hate group.

Like you have the MGTOW and the Alpha males, but those two types of men do not even agree with one another. The point is, it is frowned upon when men are Alpha, and it is also frowned upon when men give up on women. That doesn't quite work out.

The funny thing, I find a lot of homosexuals turn against their own gender and paint it to be toxic as a whole. Usually the miserable ones.



That's one of the issues in the world today. Where they want to make men out to be some kind of evil in the world when it truth most men by a landslide either mind their own business or are polite to women. That includes the Tate Brothers. Their girls love them, and they have many.
You mean the ones he was pimping out for 75%? 


Sure them too I suppose. That's the deal. The woman can easily say no thanks and go cam whore elsewhere. From what I gather Andrew no longer does this, but Tristan still has an OnlyFans with 500 girls.

But there are also women who agree with the Tate Brothers, and found them to be wonderful people. I think they are wonderful. Pushing back on the system ? Unbannable ? I love it.



How would you describe the way he views women, compared to other men's views of women? To clarify I plan to post a combination of some of his boasts and the allegations following it after you've given your view. 
You claim not to watch my links, but then expect me to watch your biased cut and edited links. Bring your edits. 
I'm only not watching them for the moment out of being lazy, I am not against watching his content and have seen it on my own as well. 


Okay cause so far you haven't really supplied anything other than bias thoughts. You also have to admit the headphone argument is poor and it carried on for too long.



If you ask me the couple that treat one another like property while unmarried in this day and age will go long and far.
Men aren't property in the Tate mindset, he thinks women talking to other men is cheating over how they are emotional creatures, while if he goes out and fucks a woman while not loving her then it's "Just Exercise". 

Come on dude, he's basically a pimp who learned to TikTok and optimize Discord into a Pyramid Scheme. 


Andrew Tate believes it's worse when women cheat, I think so too tbh.



I like how the Andrew Tate gets censored by the now mainstream big bot tech. Within 48 hours ! Some of you don't even question this. Where Government will turn to big tech and say "why aren't you censoring this person".
Yeah I don't agree with censoring him for the same reasoning I think Alex Jones should have been able to stay on. 



You don't question why does the Taliban or even the Iran Government have Twitter accounts, but they want to ban some dude advocating for men's health.
"Men's Health", lol the guy's not pushing supplements dude he's pushing a lifestyle. 


Absolutely. Learn to invest, lift weights, train, train your mind, transform. Make yourself nice, get a nice girl. For a man this is good shit !



Ya'll have your queer and woke material. It's not very popular, but it's being shoved down our throats nonetheless. If you enjoy it then good for you. This one is for men, the young men of today. Live longer, be stronger. maintain relationships. Get hard. 
It's for abusers looking for justification who wish they were richer, he is not conflatable with others of the male agenda and honestly, men shouldn't want this being what represents them it's embarrassing. 


 Well I can see why you might feel abused. You're a BisexualHomo, and Tate is viral telling guys to get the girl, and has nothing for you.
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or how to teach a woman to "respect a man" through heinous shit that makes it sound more like training an animal, poorly. 

You need to be more specific, you're being vague by passing off labels like "heinous." 

Are you saying you are fine with how he both says and displays that women should be treated?

You're being vague again. I can tell you how he actually treats women.

Then do it? 

Simple question: Do you support Tate's treatment and rhetoric over women, yes or no? You're welcome to explain your answer as much as you want, but the yes/no is the minimum I am asking for here. 

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As I mentioned before. 

One thing I can relate with Tate on, is there's always some type of force trying to paint me as a woman hater.

In here it used to be Ed, but these days it's TC, and only TC. I get along with the women fine, and yes I will fight with them too like a normal person.

It's not my job to change a queer's mind about the Tate Brothers. Haters will hate.

What stands true. 

Women want a prince or some type of hotshot, when a man trains to give her one, there will be other forces at work. Maybe satanic forces lol, but negative forces nonetheless.

In this day and age, the agenda is to divide men and women. Make men into sissies. 

Did you know, women are put off by sissies ? She wants a man with the heart of a lion. 

In the modern world, dating is on a decline. People aren't dating as much. 

The 100% truth. If man doesn't man up, our species will be doomed, and when he does man up, the Godless will kick and scream and double down, and be offended, and make demands, and narrow minded claims. Trust me when I say, when a lost young man sees the way out, he'll then recognize it.

 

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or how to teach a woman to "respect a man" through heinous shit that makes it sound more like training an animal, poorly. 

You need to be more specific, you're being vague by passing off labels like "heinous." 

Are you saying you are fine with how he both says and displays that women should be treated?

You're being vague again. I can tell you how he actually treats women.

Then do it? 

Simple question: Do you support Tate's treatment and rhetoric over women, yes or no? You're welcome to explain your answer as much as you want, but the yes/no is the minimum I am asking for here. 

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As I mentioned before. 

One thing I can relate with Tate on, is there's always some type of force trying to paint me as a woman hater.

In here it used to be Ed, but these days it's TC, and only TC. I get along with the women fine, and yes I will fight with them too like a normal person.

It's not my job to change a queer's mind about the Tate Brothers. Haters will hate.

What stands true. 

Women want a prince or some type of hotshot, when a man trains to give her one, there will be other forces at work. Maybe satanic forces lol, but negative forces nonetheless.

In this day and age, the agenda is to divide men and women. Make men into sissies. 

Did you know, women are put off by sissies ? She wants a man with the heart of a lion. 

In the modern world, dating is on a decline. People aren't dating as much. 

The 100% truth. If man doesn't man up, our species will be doomed, and when he does man up, the Godless will kick and scream and double down, and be offended, and make demands, and narrow minded claims. Trust me when I say, when a lost young man sees the way out, he'll then recognize it.

 

 

It's true that women like strong brave men,  but they also like men who will share their money and food with them  and you seem stingy on this especially with money  women love a man who can and will provide for her  you complain about women becoming independent and not needing men as much,  but the stuff that they would need men for if they could not work and had to stay at home taking care of the household and family stuff like in the past was the case you do not seem very interested in providing  just my take,  and please do not become triggered this is not an attack

 

but just so you know there are women out there that are still interested in having a more traditional married with kids type of life,  and there are plenty of at least somewhat happily married couples out there in existence even in this day and age

 

 

last edit on 10/6/2022 11:04:43 PM
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If you wanted to meet a nice lady and get married you could probably manifest it,  there are still nice loving ladies out there looking for that you know

 

 

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It's true that women like strong brave men,  but they also like men who will share their money and food with them  and you seem stingy on this especially with money 

Yes I know, women like it when men share with them. Give her half of his sandwich etc. 

 

women love a man who can and will provide for her  you complain about women becoming independent and not needing men as much,  but the stuff that they would need men for if they could not work and had to stay at home taking care of the household and family stuff like in the past was the case you do not seem very interested in providing  just my take,  and please do not become triggered this is not an attack

Well there is a reason why I'm stingy these days, and I stress, "these days" because I'm at a critical point in my growth. As I mentioned in the other thread, most people don't seem to understand.

What's more important.... Giving her $900 .... or me getting 9M. I said I have an upcoming 10,000x it's not time to spend.

I can give her the money ( notice I said give cause I never loaned her money and I gave her thousands of dollars okay ) then in 2 years I can legit say I had the suspension on a Civic repaired for 9 million dollars when I knew damn well I 10,000x was incoming. I'm not going to let that happen

However, when the trade is done all of her debts and other problems will dissolve, so what I'm doing will benefit her too. Otherwise she really won't deserve anything from me in the near future. 

 

but just so you know there are women out there that are still interested in having a more traditional married with kids type of life,  and there are plenty of at least somewhat happily married couples out there in existence even in this day and age

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If you wanted to meet a nice lady and get married you could probably manifest it,  there are still nice loving ladies out there looking for that you know

 Nah. Marriage sux for a guy, especially if he carries more wealth. Why would I want to set myself up at such a disadvantage like that ? 

One time I told her if we got married, she'd have to sign a prenup, and she was like "But that's not fair" lol nice one. Don't worry about me, I'm safe.

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My fascination with the Tate Brothers isn't based on me trying to get laid. It just looks more hopeful for the future of manhood. I also like how big tech couldn't silence them. This is epic. It's also a part of why they want to depopulate us, we're more easily managed in smaller numbers.

in 2022 straight sexuality comes last in the eyes of the media and public. It's damn rude to even talk about it openly or take pride in being straight. What's acceptable is talking about homosexuality to children in today's world.

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