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Is it in order of necessity?

Therapy through my prior experience just tended to have me just parroting back at them the textbook strategy they're trying to do, and after enough talking they end up at a loss for what to suggest if they aren't otherwise just trying to throw pills at me. The things they'd suggest are railroaded a bit when you know where it's going a few words into it, and after so much of that they've ended up at a loss for what else to suggest. 

A big part of why it works on people is over a blindness to the process. Once you know what they're doing, whether as someone with a degree in it or as someone who's dealt with them all their lives through the Big Pharma racket, it becomes increasingly difficult to take the process seriously. 

The discussions I have with them are great for talking the subject matter, knowing the same terminology can save a lot of time, but their insistence over how it cannot become about them kinda has me fixate on what they feel the need to hide. Once I start asking if what they're asking me is over their own things they've gotten combative which also gets in the way, but come on if they are wearing their motivations out in the open how am I not supposed to comment on it? 

They literally say I can say anything there, then follow it up with a series of 'except that'. 

Luke 4:23 -- Jesus said to them, “Surely you will quote this proverb to me: ‘Physician, heal yourself!’ And you will tell me, ‘Do here in your hometown what we have heard that you did in Capernaum.’”

Turncoat said: 

but their insistence over how it cannot become about them kinda has me fixate on what they feel the need to hide. Once I start asking if what they're asking me is over their own things they've gotten combative which also gets in the way, but come on if they are wearing their motivations out in the open how am I not supposed to comment on it? 

They literally say I can say anything there, then follow it up with a series of 'except that'. 

 So ...self-therapy, when one faces this obstacle?

The thing is, though, plenty of therapists have their own therapists, don't they?

The Psychiatrist will want to do cognitive therapy and hear my story, then get blown away and their life will change for the better.

Buttered Toast said: 

So ...self-therapy, when one faces this obstacle?

You can't really suggest for yourself anything you haven't already thought of, it severely limits your options. 

The thing is, though, plenty of therapists have their own therapists, don't they?

How often do you think that ends up helping them?

"Users whom* should see a psychiatrist."

more like a sikeologist

Buttered Toast said: 

"Users whom* should see a psychiatrist."

Turncoat said: 

Buttered Toast said: 

So ...self-therapy, when one faces this obstacle?

You can't really suggest for yourself anything you haven't already thought of, it severely limits your options. 

There must be cases where it is the "autonomy" should be the factor.  Those with compulsion or even ADHD (executive control dysfunction) could probably use the structured method.  What you describe also sounds compulsive; though you recognize the self-defeating nature, you're drawn into the person like a magnet through their behavior.  You know what the whole set up is about, why it's structure that way.  You are being self-aware about this, sure, but perhaps they didn't recognize the nature of this in this way, which would have them offer an appropriate strategy?

The thing is, though, plenty of therapists have their own therapists, don't they?

How often do you think that ends up helping them?

 What I think isn't necessarily pertinent, but probably as much as anyone else, perhaps with a little added suspension of disbelief (which may certainly feed into more neurosis).  There has to be some meta-level available to even therapists, for they are human too, and you're well aware many get into the field from the simple fact they have the interest because of their own problems.  It might be more of a peer-level or should also be a part of the process.