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Turncoat said: 

ChallengeSeeker said: 

Tryptamine said: 

I got pretty much the same reaction when I told you that I think you’re BPD, you were just like “nah”—no interest even in the possibility. I’m guessing because it doesn’t sound as cool as psychopathy.

 No, it’s because I have a lot of symptoms of a lot of things, but I’m not everything.

Qualifying for a diagnosis isn't about hitting 100% of them (if it were, disorders would be incredibly rare), and there's subtypes for when they go another direction within similar behaviors. 

I moreso question narcissism when it comes to you though. 

 I’d prefer people to not guess at these things because they’re all wrong. I’m diagnosed depressed, anxious and PTSD ridden. 

ChallengeSeeker said: 

I’m diagnosed depressed, anxious and PTSD ridden. 

Like, officially? 

Lenalee said: 

Outro said: 

You've got borderline personality disorder. For real. This isn't even armchair psychology, you've literally self-identified with 8/9 criteria (it only takes like 4 to get diagnosed). And self-identification is how an actual psychologist would diagnose you.

- Chronic feelings of emptiness
- Emotional instability in reaction to day-to-day events (e.g., intense episodic sadness, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days)
- Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment
- Identity disturbance with markedly or persistently unstable self-image or sense of self
- Impulsive behavior in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating)
- Inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights)
- Pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by extremes between idealization and devaluation (also known as "splitting")
- Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-harming behavior

So the good news is that it actually has a reasonable recovery rate, but the bad news is that it takes work. You're basically gonna need to get your shit together and commit to minimum 12 months of intensive psychotherapy. If you don't, this shit will keep happening. There's no Option C.

 SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP 

 Why?

Turncoat said: 

ChallengeSeeker said: 

I’m diagnosed depressed, anxious and PTSD ridden. 

Like, officially? 

 Yes officially.

Outro said: 

You've got borderline personality disorder. For real. This isn't even armchair psychology, you've literally self-identified with 8/9 criteria (it only takes like 4 to get diagnosed). And self-identification is how an actual psychologist would diagnose you.

- Chronic feelings of emptiness
- Emotional instability in reaction to day-to-day events (e.g., intense episodic sadness, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days)
- Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment
- Identity disturbance with markedly or persistently unstable self-image or sense of self
- Impulsive behavior in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating)
- Inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights)
- Pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by extremes between idealization and devaluation (also known as "splitting")
- Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-harming behavior

So the good news is that it actually has a reasonable recovery rate, but the bad news is that it takes work. You're basically gonna need to get your shit together and commit to minimum 12 months of intensive psychotherapy. If you don't, this shit will keep happening. There's no Option C.

 Let me break down why I’m not BPD for you instead of just dismissing it.

1. I don’t feel empty ever

 2. I’m fine with day to day events. no emotion whatsoever every day. only emotional when it comes to About and my love for him that will never be shared with him because of how messed up I am. 

3. I do try to avoid abandonment, but that’s daddy issues, but we can count it as BPD symptom #1 to give you the benefit of the doubt.

4. My self image and sense of self is the same every day. I hate myself and I always have because I’m evil and there’s a lot wrong with me.

5. Impulsive behavior is me, but that’s because I’m depressed and care about nothing, but we can count that as a symptom for you. That’s number 2 then.

6. I have no anger issues at all unless I’m black out drunk. I’m rarely that drunk and day to day I have no anger at all. So that is not me at all.

7. I don’t idealize and then devalue. They’re always the same to me. I just express the good stuff when I’m with them because I want it to work and talk about the bad stuff when I’m finished with them or want to get over them, except with a about. I love him so I’m never going to be mean to him. Let’s count this as number 3 for your sake. 

8. I’m suicidal because I’m depressed, but let’s count this as number 4.

So half of them barely apply. But all of them apply to my depression and anxiety. Let’s do that comparison.

Depression

anxiety, apathy, general discontent, guilt, hopelessness, loss of interest or pleasure in activities, mood swings, or sadness, lack of concentration, slowness in activity -my parents always say I move slowly

or thoughts of suicide -this is what makes me want to die all of the time.

I have all of those. Every single one. 

 Anxiety

stress that's out of proportion to the impact of the event, -stress is what causes what you think is emotional instability or whatever. It’s just stress

inability to set aside a worry, and restlessness.

i have all of those as well.

 PTSD

agitation, irritability, hostility, hypervigilance, self-destructive behavior, or social isolation - destructive behavior is what causes me to be impulsive
Psychological: flashback, fear, severe anxiety, or mistrust -this is what makes me fear abandonment
Mood: loss of interest or pleasure in activities, guilt, or loneliness -loneliness is what makes me need a guy
Sleep: insomnia or nightmares
Also common: emotional detachment or unwanted thoughts - emotional detachment is what causes me to be able to get rid of guys easily.

I have all of these two and they overlap with the symptoms of BPD that I have. This is why I wasn’t diagnosed BPD. I have PTSD, anxiety and depression and the symptoms overlap. 

ChallengeSeeker said: 

Turncoat said: 

ChallengeSeeker said: 

I’m diagnosed depressed, anxious and PTSD ridden. 

Like, officially? 

 Yes officially.

I somehow doubt you got an official diagnosis, rather from the following posts it sounds like you diagnosed yourself. 

Even so, head doctors can only work with what you give them, and will be reluctant to diagnose anything beyond the basics if not given cause to do so. It's similar to why you see a lot of ADD diagnosis' over a lot of disorders resembling it. If you're mood swingy and only report the mood you're currently in, it's possible that the shrink only saw one of the two expressions. 

ChallengeSeeker said:

 Let me break down why I’m not BPD for you instead of just dismissing it.

1. I don’t feel empty ever

Constantly seeking love at any chance, flying to countries to try and marry dudes you never even met before, saying that how you try to obtain such mates is by emulating aspects of them. Spending most of your free time online interacting with others, posting your inner thoughts in monologue form into a chat with the hope that someone will have input.

 2. I’m fine with day to day events. no emotion whatsoever every day. only emotional when it comes to About and my love for him that will never be shared with him because of how messed up I am. 

You are emotional (not just about guys) and it's in plain sight but you don't realize it because you have the perception you aren't, probably tied to how you thought (possible think) you're a psychopath.

3. I do try to avoid abandonment, but that’s daddy issues, but we can count it as BPD symptom #1 to give you the benefit of the doubt.

4. My self image and sense of self is the same every day. I hate myself and I always have because I’m evil and there’s a lot wrong with me.

There are some phases where you are boastful and proud, other phases where you are not. In fact when you first started chatting and posting here a lot, you would say things like you could make any guy fall in love with you, that everywhere you went men were wanting to be with you, making numerous statements about your intelligence and distinguishing achievements and general superiority, etc. This stuff still comes out from time to time, but now you have a different opinion of yourself after some rejections and failures. There have been numerous fluctuations among those two poles. Your sense of self & self-image largely seem tied to recent events in your life.

Attractive/Not attractive
Good mom/Bad mom
Intelligent/Stupid
Highly sexually selective/Whore

5. Impulsive behavior is me, but that’s because I’m depressed and care about nothing, but we can count that as a symptom for you. That’s number 2 then.

6. I have no anger issues at all unless I’m black out drunk. I’m rarely that drunk and day to day I have no anger at all. So that is not me at all.

It comes out visibly when you're drunk because you repress it. But yeah that's a debatable symptom that can just be a "nah."

7. I don’t idealize and then devalue. They’re always the same to me. I just express the good stuff when I’m with them because I want it to work and talk about the bad stuff when I’m finished with them or want to get over them, except with a about. I love him so I’m never going to be mean to him. Let’s count this as number 3 for your sake. 

You do, you go from how you love someone and want to marry them to how they are gross or whatever in the span that most people would be spending still getting to know each other better.

8. I’m suicidal because I’m depressed, but let’s count this as number 4.

So half of them barely apply. But all of them apply to my depression and anxiety. Let’s do that comparison.

Notice that for the symptoms you agree with, you make it a begrudging acceptance. "Yes, I have this, but it's because (some other thing indicating it's not BPD)". Also when people bring this personality disorder up to you, instead of having a bit of curiosity about why several different people are telling you this, you look for ways to shut it down ("doctors gave me different diagnoses"). You simply don't want it to be possible you are dealing with this.

5. Impulsive behavior is me, but that’s because I’m depressed and care about nothing, but we can count that as a symptom for you. That’s number 2 then.

7. I don’t idealize and then devalue. They’re always the same to me. I just express the good stuff when I’m with them because I want it to work and talk about the bad stuff when I’m finished with them or want to get over them, except with a about. I love him so I’m never going to be mean to him. Let’s count this as number 3 for your sake.

8. I’m suicidal because I’m depressed, but let’s count this as number 4.

Wait what? How are these reasons to not count them? 

You definitely have two sides to yourself, and attempting to show you quotes has you just presume people are misreading it. 

ChallengeSeeker: Hey Trypt. You available for sex?

lol