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AppleGenius said: 

Good said: 

Watch this, its from the end of last year:

"We have no intention of invading Ukraine."

It's true what they say about security guarantees. The thing about promise of no NATO expansion refers to that German document that was specifically talking about East Germany. It seems to be a bogus claim.

At any rate, the reason those countries neighboring Russia want to join NATO is because they don't trust Russia. And Russia doesn't trust them. Basically, the neighboring countries want security guarantees (given by NATO); Russia also wants security guarantees (no NATO). There is nothing unreasonable about asking for security guarantees.

So what the reporter seems to be asking is: If you are promised unconditionally no NATO at the border, giving you your security guarantee, are you willing to unconditionally promise not to invade any of the neighboring countries (giving them a security guarantee)? The answer Putin seems to give is "no."

Or, the longer answer: You need to give me security guarantees, I don't.

But to be charitable towards Putin, this was a question given to him live, on the spot, so of course he has to deflect the question.

There's no guarantees in life, wake up out of your fantacy dream world. It's this kind of weak thinking that got us here in the first place. You obviously have lived a sheltered and pampered life, Jesus

FLASHBACK: UKRAINE PRESS RELEASE ABOUT CORRUPTION OF JOE BIDEN CRIME FAMILY (12/27/2020)

The corruption extend far away from Ukraine

LiYang said: 

UKRAINE LOOKS CALM ON SECURITY CAMERAS / IN THE NEWS A BRUTAL WAR IS RAGING (STOP WATCHING MSM!)

Are you actually suggesting there isn't a war happening?

That's what urban warfare is like. We spent 80% of our time in Afghanistan walking around clearing already empty buildings and compounds, and only like 20% of the time getting shot at by combatants, usually from behind cover in buildings. The streets get eerily quiet. 

It's called asymmetric combat, and it's part of the reason Russia is shitting the bed.

LiYang said: 

There's no guarantees in life, wake up out of your fantacy dream world.

I'm not sure if I agree. It's true that you could argue that Putin should wake up out of his fantasy world and stop dreaming of his security guarantees. However, it's a real concern for Russia, so I don't think they're being unreasonable for requesting for security guarantees. You wouldn't want to have missiles on your border, either, I presume.

Just saying there are no security guarantees for Russia and telling Putin to stop dreaming isn't a good long-term solution, LiYang.

It's this kind of weak thinking that got us here in the first place.

Yes. If Russia got over their wild dreams of security guarantees, we wouldn't be here. But that's besides the point; we are here.

You obviously have lived a sheltered and pampered life, Jesus

AppleGenius said: 

LiYang said: 

There's no guarantees in life, wake up out of your fantacy dream world.

I'm not sure if I agree. It's true that you could argue that Putin should wake up out of his fantasy world and stop dreaming of his security guarantees. However, it's a real concern for Russia, so I don't think they're being unreasonable for requesting for security guarantees. You wouldn't want to have missiles on your border, either, I presume.

Just saying there are no security guarantees for Russia and telling Putin to stop dreaming isn't a good long-term solution, LiYang.

It's this kind of weak thinking that got us here in the first place.

Yes. If Russia got over their wild dreams of security guarantees, we wouldn't be here. But that's besides the point; we are here.

You obviously have lived a sheltered and pampered life, Jesus

Actually, he was from a family of nobodies and rose in the ranks with hard work and by crushing competition. It's pretty much the opposite of a "sheltered and pampered life." I mean you're talking about a Russian ruler that lived through the soviet era and rose to success amidst a scattered country of ~150 million. I'm not sure what kind of life you've had if you think that is being sheltered and pampered.

I was talking about you. Everywhere you said Putin, Replace your name instead.

You're such an obvious gaslighter, you should learn to be more subtle. The gaslighting argument style is somewhat autistic. Plain and unoriginal.

Try sticking to the facts

Outro said: 

LiYang said: 

UKRAINE LOOKS CALM ON SECURITY CAMERAS / IN THE NEWS A BRUTAL WAR IS RAGING (STOP WATCHING MSM!)

Are you actually suggesting there isn't a war happening?

That's what urban warfare is like. We spent 80% of our time in Afghanistan walking around clearing already empty buildings and compounds, and only like 20% of the time getting shot at by combatants, usually from behind cover in buildings. The streets get eerily quiet. 

It's called asymmetric combat, and it's part of the reason Russia is shitting the bed.

 No

LiYang said: 

Outro said: 

LiYang said: 

UKRAINE LOOKS CALM ON SECURITY CAMERAS / IN THE NEWS A BRUTAL WAR IS RAGING (STOP WATCHING MSM!)

Are you actually suggesting there isn't a war happening?

That's what urban warfare is like. We spent 80% of our time in Afghanistan walking around clearing already empty buildings and compounds, and only like 20% of the time getting shot at by combatants, usually from behind cover in buildings. The streets get eerily quiet. 

It's called asymmetric combat, and it's part of the reason Russia is shitting the bed.

 No

 So what's your point?

Addressing the rest of your rambling bullshit in this thread: You seem to think you're taking some wise middle position by "questioning everything", but you're down a fucking rabbit hole.

There's no doubt we're subject to propaganda in the West, but most of this is a fairly clear-cut scenario. How often do 141 countries in the UN agree on something?

LiYang said: 

I was talking about you. Everywhere you said Putin, Replace your name instead.

What if you replaced it with Putin though? Would the criticism still apply?

Putin: we want security guarantees.

LiYang said:

There's no guarantees in life, wake up out of your fantacy dream world.

Seems to fit the bill. It seems like you dislike Putin.

Try sticking to the facts

Is it not a fact that Putin wants security guarantees? Is it not a fact that you think requesting for security guarantees is only for people who live in a fantasy world?

By your logic, does this not imply that Putin lives in a fantasy dream world?

The Geneva.... suggestion:

Outro said: 

LiYang said: 

Outro said: 

LiYang said: 

UKRAINE LOOKS CALM ON SECURITY CAMERAS / IN THE NEWS A BRUTAL WAR IS RAGING (STOP WATCHING MSM!)

Are you actually suggesting there isn't a war happening?

That's what urban warfare is like. We spent 80% of our time in Afghanistan walking around clearing already empty buildings and compounds, and only like 20% of the time getting shot at by combatants, usually from behind cover in buildings. The streets get eerily quiet. 

It's called asymmetric combat, and it's part of the reason Russia is shitting the bed.

 No

 So what's your point?

Addressing the rest of your rambling bullshit in this thread: You seem to think you're taking some wise middle position by "questioning everything", but you're down a fucking rabbit hole.

There's no doubt we're subject to propaganda in the West, but most of this is a fairly clear-cut scenario. How often do 141 countries in the UN agree on something?

Fuck the New World Order, fuck the World Economic Forum. Fuck Klaus and his cult.

The corrupt Ukraine puppet government is the head of the snake, cut it off.

LOL, Putin infiltrated the WEF, saw their bullshit, "Not in line with Russian culture".