RUSSIA THREATENS SWEDEN AND FINLAND WITH MILITARY CONSEQUENCES IF THEY JOIN NATO
WTF
FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR! FEAR!
Ya'll should have registered the tone in DC when Putin made his speech where he threatened "consequences you haven't seen in your history" on anyone who intervenes in the Ukraine invasion.
For anyone that doesn't realize how significant this is... Putin is threatening nuclear war on anyone who intervenes. Almost every country on the planet has faced or experienced almost every other conventional military assault, that threat could only reference nuclear action. Everyone in Washington knows that this is what he meant.
The reason this is so fucked up, is that with the threat of nuclear war on the table, he doesn't need to stop at Ukraine. He can take the Baltic states with impunity. Anyone who thinks that NATO will defend Estonia under threat of nuclear war is retarded, Article 5 be damned.
If Putin is gonna act like nukes are on the table, this is the most fucked up the planet has ever been. Buckle the fuck up.
Love it so much! Putin is so sexy with his super alpha personality. He makes me want to marry him, even though he is ugly. He threatened us with nukes for sure. He’s not afraid of getting his hands dirty and ruining the entire planet. He’s so crazy he’s going to make Jesus come back sooner. I have a feeling he’s going to nuke everyone anyway and then when the dust settles, rule the world. He’s seriously extremely sexy to me because of his psycho brain. Freaking melts my heart ❤️ I love that man.
Imagine the bombs dropped on Japan with like 75 extra years of technology and knowledge.
Dang, that’s insane. We are all going to die.
Putin said there were promises to not expand NATO to the East. Is that true?
It's impossible to tell. There is no evidence of any promise, so the claim falls under the "prove there is no God" category. The burden of proof is on Russia. But IMHO, it does not matter.
The story goes that Gorbachev said Nato can not expand and someone orally promised to him "yes" in a meeting without writing it down. Somehow, this was never discussed in any of the thousands of meetings afterwards, but then resurfaced much later as a new narrative that didn't exist during Gorbachev's time (weird, huh?). If this story was true, then it would stand to reason that past interviews with Gorbachev et al. would follow the same narrative. But they don't. The past narrative was different from the current one.
RT, which is the Russian propaganda news for the West, cites German documents that discussed not expanding NATO eastward. The problem is that the document talks about moving non-German NATO to East Germany. it says nothing at all about NATO expansion. It's abundantly clear from the document if you read all of it, but RT is basically taking a few quotes from it out of context. Putin has admitted that there exist no document or agreement or anything written down about any such promise.
But IMHO it doesn't matter. I think there is some basis for the claim that NATO threatens Russian security, so they can rightfully be worried (and vice-versa, that Russia threatens the security of many Eastern European nations). However, the problem is that one could also use this NATO narrative as a pretext to attack a nation. Putin made it pretty clear in his announcement that he's not attacking Ukraine just because of NATO. He's sending freedom bombs there to help the rightful Russian-loving Ukrainians regain power from a neo-nazi puppet government.
I listened to the entire announcement by Putin, because I was expecting him to explain why NATO is a problem, but instead I get a story about their "historical lands," Ukrainian and Russian people being oppressed by neo-nazis, and puppet governments. He could've said "do not join NATO, and we stop."
It may be true that the West influenced the formation of the current government in Ukraine, I don't know. If you'd like to find something to understand Russia's views, that might be one place to start. However, influencing a country and bombing it are two very different things. It is quite true that the current Ukrainian government is pretty anti-Russia.
Basically, Ukraine is a playground for the West and Russia to take turns inserting puppet governments there, so now the Ukrainian people need to pay in blood. It's always like this. Whatever the case, the current Ukrainian people do not want Russia there. No matter what the history is, there are real people there with real lives and their own values. You can't just go to a country and fuck it up against the people's wills. West can't do that with their propaganda. Nor can Russia with their bombs.
If history gives Russia the right to bomb Ukraine, it gives Mongolia the right to bomb Russia. What matters is who currently reside in the country and what their values are. The Ukrainian people are not oppressed by neo-nazis. Let them make their own choices. If Russia wants to help, they should mediate their transition, not bomb them and insert their own government there lol.
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This Ukraine-joining-NATO business is overstated, Russia had already ensured that wouldn't happen in the forseeable future.
One of the explicit NATO ascension criteria is the ability to control your own borders, which Russia nixed when they annexed Crimea 8 years ago. Which is exactly why they annexed Crimea, that was enough to prevent Ukraine joining.
Also... what fucking better advertisement for NATO membership than this shit show?
Putin is basically signalling to all non-NATO members that the world will throw you under the bus if you aren't a member. He's done more for NATO recruitment in 3 days than anyone managed in the past 70 fucking years.
The argument that invading Ukraine is a reaction to Russian security concerns is a bit batshit, tbh. I bet every allied nuke in the world is trained on Moscow right now. I'd call that a massive fucking own-goal, if you were trying to minimize security concerns lol
My current theory is that his cheese done slid off its cracker. None of this adds up to sanity. I think he's on a murder-suicide mission.
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Putin has been talking about NATO for years. And about the USA and EU aggressive policies towards Russia.
He has decided no one listens, so:
Anyway, here is my meme:
First video is so sexy.