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JimRichards said: 

Canary said: 

When it happens people tend to keep a tight lid on it. Our friend circles are also rather small aren't they ?

Mine aren't, and I know pretty much everything about them. It should be pretty obvious when someone breaks up and then a day later they're hooked with someone else.

It can. That's how it is for men. She can go bang other guys, but if her man took a healthier approach to getting cheated on, that's somehow a bad thing.

That's because men are kind of like pigs and do it for self-indulgence, while women usually have better reasons (abusive, neglectful, or emotionally unavailable boyfriend, doesnt bring flowers, ....). There are some that do it for unacceptable reasons. Either way, I'd argue that cheating is always bad. However, the problem with men sticking with the girl and treating her like a whore says a lot about their personality, priorities, and self-respect. I'd have the same reaction if a man cheated and the girl stuck with him but started treating him like an ATM.

Edit: Actually, no, I would cheer for the girl. Maybe you're right. Maybe I have a bias.

Ha ha ha. Time heals all wounds. As for us guys who aren't in the top 20% ( personally I'm a 5 ) We need to make due or else we get none when things like that happen. Dating get's more difficult to do as we age, I'm 44 years old and have no time for drama.

And it's not that I would keep her the same way, there would be changes. I'm never in the mood for a hissy fit. As for my current date, the pandemic hasn't been too kind to her, she's out of work and she just ran out of money so guess who'll be paying her car payment and other bills this month ? Even before her well dried up, I'd give her $800 here, 300 there, $1,000 again, $400. She don't want flowers, she wants gasoline.

Another thing to note, I'm the 3rd swing in a monkey branch relationship at the moment. Good chance I could have been cheated on already. There were times she called it in early, but on Whatsapp I'd see her online at 3AM, now her whatsapp time stamp is censored so I can't see when she's on. I can't prove anything, so I say nothing about it.

If the job is making the worker ill, then why live miserably ? Money isn't everything, or, it isn't supposed to be, making less does suck. I personally haven't worked for half a decade now.

Exactly, but you're driving my point. I was drawing an analogy between your advice to stick with a girl who cheats with you for the sake of sex to a guy staying at a toxic job for the sake of money. There are better jobs out there, and ways of making money without working.

I haven't fallen in love in 11 years, before that it was even longer. That's a good thing but it's probably about due to happen sooner than later at this point. Another thing. In my age group when we date new people, they come with kids and we have to win their hearts too which is pretty hefty.

No we don't just find replacements so easily. My offer, if she cheats, we can be friends. Cutting them off won't make us feel better, it would fuel resentment, but the end will most likely come anyway on their account.

We don't simply choose who we want to be with then get them. That's for hot chicks, and even they won't be content nor their her boyfriends because if she's smoking hot, then it's simply his turn, in most cases.

It seems like you're implying it's impossible to find someone hot who won't cheat on you? Hard? Maybe. But impossible?

Not saying it's impossible, but I'm over the hill, and it's impossible to change the past. 

People laugh at these people and deem them pathetic, but when the shit hits the fan people need the cuck's powers, cause the cuck isn't going to lose any sleep getting cheating on. In my opinion that's admirable, simply because being cheated on is beyond our control.

It's moral cowardice, not personal cowardice. I don't object to someone letting their wives cheat on them because it's wrong for them not to cry about it. I'm objecting to it on the basis of morality.

It's moral if all parties involved are okay with it. The cuck personally comes combat ready when it comes to being cheated on. If the cuck is cheated on and he handles it without losing his composure, that in my opinion is good mental stability.

Y'know when most people are cheated on, they lose their cool and start smashing shit and they suffer, sometimes for the rest of their lives. I don't recognize this as moral cowardice. It may not be your cup of tea cause if it were you, you'd lose your shit, but if being cheated on was the case with you, the cuck's abilities would be something you ought to envy if things went sour in your relationship, cause the pain would melt away.

A society where people cheat less is objectively better in terms of general mental health (with a few exceptions) than a society where people cheat more. By not objecting to the cheating, the cuck is indirectly promoting it, and participating as an agent to drive the society to shit. It's moral cowardice. If we all collectively agreed that cheating and general dishonesty is penalized, it would reduce (but not eliminate) cheating. Over time, there would be a paradigm shift towards a more honest society.

The cuck is frowned on, or made fun of in society. Let's say 95% or maybe more people aren't like these people. By no means would I suggest the cuck has such influence on how much cheating is going on in the genepool. It's even an insult to call someone a cuck, or make them out to be getting cucked regardless if it's true or not.

Another thing about cheating and people. They don't cheat because others have done it.

You can even embrace the situation cause it'll make you strong and you'll evolve into a more powerful being.

If you're myopic.

Untrue. This in effect, is strength training. I've had quite a few self transformations in my time, and the process of self transformation, every single time, is quite painful. Though when things like this happen, one thing I say to myself is, I'm going to change again, and I'll be better. The worst has yet to come, and if you're mentally weak, you won't handle it too well.

If not you'll devolve into a lesser state of being.

If you let it get to you, yes.

Embracing the shitty situation is the complete opposite of letting it get to you might I add. Why think that is, as you say myopic ?

 

My personal record from recovering from heartbreak is 2 or 3 months, and if it happens again I know it'll be sooner.

 Heartbreak or break-up? If breakup, 5 minutes is my record. I've never been heartbroken. I wouldn't think it's my fault if I was cheated on. I'd be glad I found out so I can stop wasting my time. I'd cut things off out of principle. If I don't trust someone, I can't have a relationship with them.

 
I said heartbreak. My last experience with this wasn't from a breakup, that was the straw that broke the camels back though. If you can get over a break up in 5 minutes, then you split from someone you never cared about.

I was banging my ex once, and after that she told me a story about how she got raped. So I asked how it happened. She said the guy had weed and one thing lead to another ( my ex is addicted to weed ). So I told her, if you get a chance to sleep with Fabio or some hot shot, it's okay. Then she started crying and thanked me. Also. She wouldn't tell me the guys name, as if I would seek and destroy him, but really I'm not like that and she knows it.

 

Me I've been cheated on many times. That ex is a boomerang too.

 Really? How did it go? Did she get fucked by other men or just started cheating on an emotional level and stopped having feelings for you?

 
Her and I have been off and on since I was 18. The last 2 times I was the one to end it for a change, but before that she would end it, get fucked then come running back. And I would take her. In a sense you could say I was getting cucked, but I wasn't a cuck, so it was pretty painful. I learned some lessons the hard way.

The first time I cut her loose is when I went to her place, and I hopped in the shower. When I came out, I heard her on the phone with some other guy upstairs. I called to ask her something but she moved away and I can hear her in the distance. If she wasn't my girl I would have gotten on boner listening to her on the phone. So I just calmly got dressed, and slipped out the back. Maybe 20 minutes or so later she called my cell and I asked who was she talking to on the phone. As usual she would say, he's a friend. I said okay, that'll be all. 

I ignored her calls but some years later she calls back and I respond. She wants to meet up, go play some pool. I'm not going to lie, she's the best ass I've ever had so I'm like cool. I meet her at the place and when she arrived, she said do I want to just get down to it, then we went to a hotel and we had the sweeeeet banging. I kid you not, I banged her all weekend and I only finished 4 times. Other condoms had to be replaced. I thought I wouldn't last long cause I haven't had any real poon in ages, and, I never had anything to simulate the real thing so I probably had some callous from jerking off.

She then told me how she's moving ( not going to say where ) 7 hours away. She moved, but she would call me whenever she was in town. She wanted me to move over there, buy a house by the lake, have kids. I never wanted that, I'm a city man. She'd only call or make plans whenever she was coming down. One of the last things she texted me, was her weighting lifting in a basement with a bunch of dudes. I thought to myself, okay I'm done. I did something I never thought I would ever do, and I decided to stonewall her. It's been 4 years, and she still writes me even though I won't respond. Her brother and I became friends, and he told me about her other guys and shit. Gave her a lot of chances, and even though I can hit it, I won't. This is a sad thing, sex isn't as good but I don't worry about that. The guy she's with now wouldn't have a clue that she calls me.

I feel I had to end it that way because I have some difficulty telling her no. Sometimes all she has to do is break down and I'll bend, but not this time. Her Brother died last year, and she wrote me about that, as to why I haven't heard from him for so long, it's because they had to bury him. I responded "wow" and left it at that.

 

If you handle it well, you'll by default look like the bad guy.

 I don't think so. Maybe this is a thing in your culture. I see a lot of vids on the internet about people cheering for the guy who broke up with the girl that cheated on him. I think people generally root for the guy/girl who got cheated on.

What's that you said earlier in this post ? Sticking around says a lot of about guy's character ? I've stuck around in the in the past and I'd still do it now to a degree. The difference is, in the past I would suffer greatly while in the present, I'm considered some shady character cause I'm more nonchalant about being cheated on while imposing new boundaries. 1 version of me is the better one, and it's not to appease the masses or emulate what others would do before they carry on suffering for a long time. No I see that as weakness, and I don't like weak.

Some cultures think it's bad for a married couple to divorce and remarry others, but we weren't programmed by that other society, we were programmed by this one. Me, I do things differently. I can be like, Bitch you cheated ? I'm not surprised, okay let's not trip out are we going to be cool about it ? I'm not interested in people's sympathy or partaking in gossip. I don't think like the people who would applaud me had I've chosen to cease contact ( though I actually did that to my life love, and I don't think it's all that great tbh. 27 years of hot and cold went *poof* )

You know that saying about when life deals you lemons. I have to do it this way. Not like those people who lose their shit, I've been down there and found nothing good.

I cannot confirm or deny if I'm being cheated on, nor will it serve me to track her down and stalk her ( ironically the same people who would applaud me for leaving her for cheating, would also condemn me for spying on her, unless I found her guilty ) It's better that I don't do that, for many reasons, this includes mental health. But the red flags keep rolling in. 

If I get into another relationship, it's not exactly going to be with a virgin, maybe she'll be smarter than me and I won't be able to figure her out, but like this relationship, I have to refrain from doing things that can destroy it, like expressing a lack of trust. ( And really I don't trust so easily )

Her and I have been off and on since I was 18. The last 2 times I was the one to end it for a change, but before that she would end it, get fucked then come running back. And I would take her. In a sense you could say I was getting cucked, but I wasn't a cuck, so it was pretty painful. I learned some lessons the hard way.

The first time I cut her loose is when I went to her place, and I hopped in the shower. When I came out, I heard her on the phone with some other guy upstairs. I called to ask her something but she moved away and I can hear her in the distance. If she wasn't my girl I would have gotten on boner listening to her on the phone. So I just calmly got dressed, and slipped out the back. Maybe 20 minutes or so later she called my cell and I asked who was she talking to on the phone. As usual she would say, he's a friend. I said okay, that'll be all.

I ignored her calls but some years later she calls back and I respond. She wants to meet up, go play some pool. I'm not going to lie, she's the best ass I've ever had so I'm like cool. I meet her at the place and when she arrived, she said do I want to just get down to it, then we went to a hotel and we had the sweeeeet banging. I kid you not, I banged her all weekend and I only finished 4 times. Other condoms had to be replaced. I thought I wouldn't last long cause I haven't had any real poon in ages, and, I never had anything to simulate the real thing so I probably had some callous from jerking off.

She then told me how she's moving ( not going to say where ) 7 hours away. She moved, but she would call me whenever she was in town. She wanted me to move over there, buy a house by the lake, have kids. I never wanted that, I'm a city man. She'd only call or make plans whenever she was coming down. One of the last things she texted me, was her weighting lifting in a basement with a bunch of dudes. I thought to myself, okay I'm done. I did something I never thought I would ever do, and I decided to stonewall her. It's been 4 years, and she still writes me even though I won't respond. Her brother and I became friends, and he told me about her other guys and shit. Gave her a lot of chances, and even though I can hit it, I won't. This is a sad thing, sex isn't as good but I don't worry about that. The guy she's with now wouldn't have a clue that she calls me.

I feel I had to end it that way because I have some difficulty telling her no. Sometimes all she has to do is break down and I'll bend, but not this time. Her Brother died last year, and she wrote me about that, as to why I haven't heard from him for so long, it's because they had to bury him. I responded "wow" and left it at that.

This is an interesting story, but to be perfectly frank here, I don't see any cheating going on. So what if she calls you when she's with her boyfriend? That's not really cheating, is it? I've never cut off contact with my exes or with women around me while in a relationship. I've never cheated. This all sounds kind of like paranoia if I'm perfectly honest with you. I used to have a partner who would insist she sniff my cock whenever I came home to see if she can smell me having sex with other women. It was the weirdest thing. I never cheated, or even thought of cheating.

Canary said: 

If you can get over a break up in 5 minutes, then you split from someone you never cared about.

Nah I did care. I'm pretty black-and-white kind of a man though. I change my opinion of people very quickly when they commit sin.

So I told her, if you get a chance to sleep with Fabio or some hot shot, it's okay. Then she started crying and thanked me.

Lmfao

 get fucked then come running back. And I would take her. In a sense you could say I was getting cucked, but I wasn't a cuck, so it was pretty painful.

I'm considered some shady character cause I'm more nonchalant about being cheated on while imposing new boundaries.

It's a bit unsettling because it sounds like it's something grown out of trauma and distrust of people.

I don't think like the people who would applaud me had I've chosen to cease contact ( though I actually did that to my life love, and I don't think it's all that great tbh. 27 years of hot and cold went *poof* )

Supposing everyone thought like that,  wouldn't there be no consequences for cheaters? Wouldn't that, in turn, drive the society to favor cheating? I don't like being cheated on, and I'll try to encourage others not to cheat. If enough people agree, I think we can reduce cheating significantly.

I cannot confirm or deny if I'm being cheated on, nor will it serve me to track her down and stalk her ( ironically the same people who would applaud me for leaving her for cheating, would also condemn me for spying on her, unless I found her guilty )

Well spying on her is kind of an invasion of privacy and trust. I think you probably agree that's not OK?

But the red flags keep rolling in. 

Paranoia? If you're very sure, I think some invasion of privacy is fine. However, you've been in that relationship where your partner or friend or family member is super paranoid around you when you've done nothing. Not a great feeling.

If I get into another relationship, it's not exactly going to be with a virgin, maybe she'll be smarter than me and I won't be able to figure her out, but like this relationship, I have to refrain from doing things that can destroy it, like expressing a lack of trust. ( And really I don't trust so easily )

I think either you're attracted to women who cheat a lot, are overtly paranoid, or my view of how much people cheat is extremely skewed. Wouldn't you say?

Canary said: 

Cheating doesn't always equate to break ups. Sometimes it goes on for years without the partner knowing. If one of your many friends is being cheated on, you wouldn't be the first to know and neither will they.

Ha ha ha. Time heals all wounds. As for us guys who aren't in the top 20% ( personally I'm a 5 ) We need to make due or else we get none when things like that happen.

Dating get's more difficult to do as we age, I'm 44 years old and have no time for drama.

For women, not for men. You have money, depth, and wisdom that comes with age. Women hardly give a shit about how you look. If you lost that paranoia, you'd probably be a 9 or something. You primarily want to bang women. Why not get someone young and hot? There are plenty of those out there who are looking to hook up with men older than them. The rest is a matter of trying out enough women so you hit the right one.

Even before her well dried up, I'd give her $800 here, 300 there, $1,000 again, $400.

Maybe you shouldn't? Wouldn't that bring more honesty? That they're not just dating you for the money?

I've never paid for any woman I've dated. My dates have paid for our dates more than I have. And it's not like I don't have money. I just don't want to pay. I want them to do it?

Good chance I could have been cheated on already.

I haven't fallen in love in 11 years, before that it was even longer. That's a good thing but it's probably about due to happen sooner than later at this point.

How do you reconcile all of this relationship practice with spirituality? I take it you're not Christian?

Another thing. In my age group when we date new people, they come with kids and we have to win their hearts too which is pretty hefty.

Can't you go on tinder or something? I've never used it, but don't they have like "filter by height, weight, and children"? Not sure what they do these days. If you meet enough people, I suppose you will meet somoene suitable?

No we don't just find replacements so easily. My offer, if she cheats, we can be friends.

So no punishment? Why is this not moral cowardice, in your opinion?

It's moral if all parties involved are okay with it.

How would they know you're ok with it? Would there be a discussion about what would happen if you cheated? If that discussion took place and both parties knew it was ok to cheat, then it's like an open relationship I guess? I don't think there's anything wrong with open relationships.

Y'know when most people are cheated on, they lose their cool and start smashing shit and they suffer, sometimes for the rest of their lives. I don't recognize this as moral cowardice. It may not be your cup of tea cause if it were you, you'd lose your shit, but if being cheated on was the case with you, the cuck's abilities would be something you ought to envy if things went sour in your relationship, cause the pain would melt away.

I think it's ok not to lose your cool. I'm saying that not cutting things off or having some sort of punishment for people who are dishonest promotes dishonesty and serves to drive society, at large, to shit if everyone does the same thing. Therefore, it would be moral cowardice to just let it slide. Sometimes you need to pretend to be angry because it's the right thing to do.

The cuck is frowned on, or made fun of in society. Let's say 95% or maybe more people aren't like these people. By no means would I suggest the cuck has such influence on how much cheating is going on in the genepool.

Genepool? What do you mean genepool?

However, how is this different from saying that 95% of people report crime but it's fine for the 5% not to report them? It's moral cowardice for you to let someone get away with murder or theft, because they'll likely do it again, to other people. How is that not moral cowardice? It's your responsibility.

Another thing about cheating and people. They don't cheat because others have done it.

Would you say that there's no more incentive for people to cheat in a society where everyone cheats than in a society where nobody cheats? Would you say coming up with excuses for your actions would be easier if everyone around you also cheated? Or there's no correlation?

Moreover, would you say that it's more likely that someone who gets punished for a crime to not repeat it than it is for someone who knows they won't be punished? Do you think people would be deterred from doing crime or from cheating if they knew they would get punished for it?

Untrue. This in effect, is strength training. I've had quite a few self transformations in my time, and the process of self transformation, every single time, is quite painful. Though when things like this happen, one thing I say to myself is, I'm going to change again, and I'll be better. The worst has yet to come, and if you're mentally weak, you won't handle it too well.

I think you should form your ethic and follow those principles. It seems to me that it ise myopic because you only think of the immediate consequences of your actions, one step ahead, while the big picture is lacking.

I see the trees, but not the forest.

Embracing the shitty situation is the complete opposite of letting it get to you might I add. Why think that is, as you say myopic ?

See the above questions. I think it's fine not to let yourself be emotionally overwhelmed.

JimRichards said: 

Her and I have been off and on since I was 18. The last 2 times I was the one to end it for a change, but before that she would end it, get fucked then come running back. And I would take her. In a sense you could say I was getting cucked, but I wasn't a cuck, so it was pretty painful. I learned some lessons the hard way.

The first time I cut her loose is when I went to her place, and I hopped in the shower. When I came out, I heard her on the phone with some other guy upstairs. I called to ask her something but she moved away and I can hear her in the distance. If she wasn't my girl I would have gotten on boner listening to her on the phone. So I just calmly got dressed, and slipped out the back. Maybe 20 minutes or so later she called my cell and I asked who was she talking to on the phone. As usual she would say, he's a friend. I said okay, that'll be all.

I ignored her calls but some years later she calls back and I respond. She wants to meet up, go play some pool. I'm not going to lie, she's the best ass I've ever had so I'm like cool. I meet her at the place and when she arrived, she said do I want to just get down to it, then we went to a hotel and we had the sweeeeet banging. I kid you not, I banged her all weekend and I only finished 4 times. Other condoms had to be replaced. I thought I wouldn't last long cause I haven't had any real poon in ages, and, I never had anything to simulate the real thing so I probably had some callous from jerking off.

She then told me how she's moving ( not going to say where ) 7 hours away. She moved, but she would call me whenever she was in town. She wanted me to move over there, buy a house by the lake, have kids. I never wanted that, I'm a city man. She'd only call or make plans whenever she was coming down. One of the last things she texted me, was her weighting lifting in a basement with a bunch of dudes. I thought to myself, okay I'm done. I did something I never thought I would ever do, and I decided to stonewall her. It's been 4 years, and she still writes me even though I won't respond. Her brother and I became friends, and he told me about her other guys and shit. Gave her a lot of chances, and even though I can hit it, I won't. This is a sad thing, sex isn't as good but I don't worry about that. The guy she's with now wouldn't have a clue that she calls me.

I feel I had to end it that way because I have some difficulty telling her no. Sometimes all she has to do is break down and I'll bend, but not this time. Her Brother died last year, and she wrote me about that, as to why I haven't heard from him for so long, it's because they had to bury him. I responded "wow" and left it at that.

This is an interesting story, but to be perfectly frank here, I don't see any cheating going on.

I never specified what she said on the phone, in a nutshell she was cheating. Again. I don't just penalize her for having guy friends ( though she used to isolate me from everyone and everything ). I also mentioned the last 2 times I cut her loose, which is the only 2 times really. Before that we broke up a dozen times, the first time cause she went camping with her ex BF and her friend ( She told me how she would be tanning naked by the side of the lake ) When she got back I asked her if she fucked her ex. She couldn't lie.

The last time I just decided to end it. Her BF was in the video she sent me too. 

I believe I was strung along. Her body count increased significantly more than mine over the years

So what if she calls you when she's with her boyfriend? That's not really cheating, is it?

I don't care about that Again. I'm saying I know her boyfriend has no idea she's calling me, and for his sake, this should be cause for alarm. As for me, it's not a surprise.

You have to understand, this woman will fuck me on the spot, indoors, outdoors, alleyway, Ronald's, Tent, Hotel kitchens living rooms elevators parks school yards forests etc. I actually had sex with her in a public bathroom once when she visited me at work. She will drive 7 hours and want to go away for a weekend easy. She'll cheat WITH me while she's with other guys. This woman is my eternal succubus. 

I've never cut off contact with my exes or with women around me while in a relationship. I've never cheated.

That's some cock waving if I do say so myself. 

Like I said, off and on for 27 years. You don't have that, and probably never will. This can easily turn into 40 years of off and on.

I gave 2 examples of me breaking up with her, not the several instances of her cheating, or what she said was about to happen on the phone that day.

This all sounds kind of like paranoia if I'm perfectly honest with you. I used to have a partner who would insist she sniff my cock whenever I came home to see if she can smell me having sex with other women. It was the weirdest thing. I never cheated, or even thought of cheating.

 Well I never exactly sniffed my exes genitals like your girl there, nor do I spy on them or openly accuse them of having an affair. Never did that ever.

I don't find you too bright to be honest. It would be better for someone else to take over this conversation, though I've had my fill. 

Toodles.

Canary said: 

I never specified what she said on the phone, in a nutshell she was cheating. Again. I don't just penalize her for having guy friends ( though she used to isolate me from everyone and everything ). I also mentioned the last 2 times I cut her loose, which is the only 2 times really. Before that we broke up a dozen times, the first time cause she went camping with her ex BF and her friend ( She told me how she would be tanning naked by the side of the lake ) When she got back I asked her if she fucked her ex. She couldn't lie.

The last time I just decided to end it. Her BF was in the video she sent me too. 

I believe I was strung along. Her body count increased significantly more than mine over the years

I stand corrected then. I thought you heard her have a phone conversation with some guy and decided she was cheating. Clearly I misunderstood.

She'll cheat WITH me while she's with other guys.

Are you ok with that?

I've never cut off contact with my exes or with women around me while in a relationship. I've never cheated.

That's some cock waving if I do say so myself. 

Lol. It's not really cock waving. It's just what it is, and I said it because you implied that there's something wrong with keeping in touch with the opposite sex or your exes whilst in a relationship. I see nothing wrong with it. But maybe I should've asked you what you see wrong about it instead.

Like I said, off and on for 27 years. You don't have that, and probably never will.

I do find 27 years of on and off cheating to be sufficient motive to raise your eyebrows if she does something odd.

I gave 2 examples of me breaking up with her, not the several instances of her cheating, or what she said was about to happen on the phone that day.

I stand corrected then.

Well I never exactly sniffed my exes genitals like your girl there, nor do I spy on them or openly accuse them of having an affair. Never did that ever.

Good. I clearly misunderstood.

I don't find you too bright to be honest.

Not many people find me very bright. Thanks.

It would be better for someone else to take over this conversation, though I've had my fill. 

Sure.

Toodles.

Bye.